They spent $40 million on production over 4 years with about 40 people

[Olo]

I don't expect the game to be noticeably improved by waiting 1 or 2 year

[Daimos]

Stormgate looks like a "student project". Ground texture work looks worse than in Warcraft 1, from 1994. Many units don't have ANY animations. hahaha

EDIT:
Ok, I watched some videos on YT, from the first 3 campaign missions. It's not that bad. This is not a "student project", but the quality bar is WAY below SC2.

[Grievous]

Only thing I don''t understand is they had a kick-starter,investor money,plus I believe they got a grant from epic.How is this it?I mean I just want to understand.Either way I wish them the best.

[Olo]

Originally posted by Grievous:

Only thing I don''t understand is they had a kick-starter,investor money,plus I believe they got a grant from epic.How is this it?I mean I just want to understand.Either way I wish them the best.

The largest investor is Kakao Games, a leading Korean gaming company, which invested $20 million. It seems Kakao Games hopes this game will be the successor to StarCraft, which is beloved by Koreans. However, when I played it, the Korean translation was a mess and the font used was the default Windows font

[Daimos]

They didn't want to make an unofficial SC3, or WC4. They made some kind of monstrous mix of WC3/SC2, which has ZERO charm of those games. Some of their unit model designs are so bad, it's basically like Johnny Bean graphics. hahaha

[Terotrous]

If there is an issue with this game, it's likely that it's slightly too ambitious for its budget / team size.

They're attempting to do a full campaign, the co-op commanders mode, a competitive 1v1 mode, and a Starcraft 2-style map editor / custom game builder all in one. All of these modes are only partially complete, leading most people to feel the game doesn't have enough content or polish, because most players predominantly care about only one of them. It might have been a better option to just focus on one or two of the things and really polish that up instead.

[Daimos]

Originally posted by Terotrous:

If there is an issue with this game, it's likely that it's slightly too ambitious for its budget / team size.

They're attempting to do a full campaign, the co-op commanders mode, a competitive 1v1 mode, and a Starcraft 2-style map editor / custom game builder all in one. All of these modes are only partially complete, leading most people to feel the game doesn't have enough content or polish, because most players predominantly care about only one of them. It might have been a better option to just focus on one or two of the things and really polish that up instead.

Exactly, it's a no-brainer, but not for them, apparently. hahaha "Blizzard veterans." XD The most idiotic move is that they plan to release 1v1 ladder for free first, but 1v1 players are the most demanding players of them all. XD They demand EXCELLENT mechanics, EXCELLENT UI design, EXELLENT balance, and they are not forgiving. hahaha They should focus on promoting their content for CASUAL players, who are vastly more numerous and more forgiving, because they DON'T CARE, that much. Casuals, care more about the graphics and the feel of the game, and they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up graphics/sound the most. XD

[Olo]

Originally posted by Terotrous:

If there is an issue with this game, it's likely that it's slightly too ambitious for its budget / team size.

They're attempting to do a full campaign, the co-op commanders mode, a competitive 1v1 mode, and a Starcraft 2-style map editor / custom game builder all in one. All of these modes are only partially complete, leading most people to feel the game doesn't have enough content or polish, because most players predominantly care about only one of them. It might have been a better option to just focus on one or two of the things and really polish that up instead.

I think the problem with this game is not only a failure of focus and prioritization, but also a lack of commitment from the developers.


There are no special features or elements in this game that set it apart from other RTS games, and it's hard to believe that the former Blizzard employees who worked on SC2 have managed to make a game of this caliber in 4 years.


People who rate this game highly understand that it's unfinished because it's in early access, but they seem to forget that it's the product of over $40 million dollars invested over 4 years.

[Terotrous]

Originally posted by Olo:

There are no special features or elements in this game that set it apart from other RTS games, and it's hard to believe that the former Blizzard employees who worked on SC2 have managed to make a game of this caliber in 4 years.

There's basically 2 things that make the game stand out to some degree.

The first is the design of the races. They all have some interesting quirks. Celestials are very unique in terms of how they work, Infernals have their unit splitting mechanic, and even the Vanguard have their unique supply buildings. The design of the races generally feels pretty cool.

The second is the co-op commanders mode, which only this game and SC2 have. This is, IMO, kind of a revolutionary feature for RTS games and any game that has it is instantly notable. I'm actually shocked more games haven't copied it.

In terms of the campaign, it absolutely doesn't stand out at all, which is an issue for sure. Compared to SC2 there's way less here, that game had a number of unique mechanics to its campaign which aren't carried over.

[Daimos]

I have a feeling, that the whole POINT of making this game, was to rise that initial money. The idea is they could use Blizzard's reputation to extract countless millions from naive investors. The goal is not to make a great game. The goal is to roll in cash from investors and backers, while pretending, that they are working.

[Snaz]

Originally posted by Daimos:

I have a feeling, that the whole POINT of making this game, was to rise that initial money. The idea is they could use Blizzard's reputation to extract countless millions from naive investors. The goal is not to make a great game. The goal is to roll in cash from investors and backers, while pretending, that they are working.

Honestly that is one big part of how this whole thing currently feels. Really depressing considering it's the only game that has the CO-OP mode of SC2, or even shows that it is working on it.

[Olo]

Originally posted by Daimos:

I have a feeling, that the whole POINT of making this game, was to rise that initial money. The idea is they could use Blizzard's reputation to extract countless millions from naive investors. The goal is not to make a great game. The goal is to roll in cash from investors and backers, while pretending, that they are working.

I don't want to claim that this game is a scam, but I believe that even if 20 developers had worked regular hours for 2 years, the game quality would be better than it is now

[Snaz]

Originally posted by Olo:

Originally posted by Daimos:

I have a feeling, that the whole POINT of making this game, was to rise that initial money. The idea is they could use Blizzard's reputation to extract countless millions from naive investors. The goal is not to make a great game. The goal is to roll in cash from investors and backers, while pretending, that they are working.

I don't want to claim that this game is a scam, but I believe that even if 20 developers had worked regular hours for 2 years, the game quality would be better than it is now

Man, half the stuff in the game doesn't even have sound design.. the music is basically non-existant. Legit nothing feels like it had someone talented & pationate working on it.

[Skavrox]

This game is a scam

[XartaX]

Originally posted by Skavrox:

This game is a scam

You get what you pay for. It's not a scam, it's overpriced.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by XartaX:

Originally posted by Skavrox:

This game is a scam

You get what you pay for. It's not a scam, it's overpriced.

Yes, it is not a scam, tehy literally tell you what you are getting, any fantasies people make on their own heads, expecting Warcraft 4s and Starcraft 3s, are their own fault.