Stormgate

Stormgate

cool skill Aug 27, 2024 @ 2:15pm
How to learn?
I have no clue how to play. Is there a tutorial section? Or should I just play the campaign? I want to learn to use Infernals.

Note: Learning button in the home screen is as useless as can be. Goes to random site with random videos. They give any useful info at all to beginners. But can be helpful if you already know how to play. Just a totally useless button if you're a beginner.
Last edited by cool skill; Aug 28, 2024 @ 3:41pm
Originally posted by S1NTaaX:
There is no official tutorial so to speak only the developer made showcases for each race which does give you a decent idea of the developer's intent for each race's playstyle they are going for. While I have not played the the full campaign it is my understanding that it is currently 6 missions and they are all for vanguard so you wont get much help with learning how to play infernal there. Unfortunately the only way to learn how to play the game in general but with Infernals and Celestials in particular is by third party resources and/or the official discord. (Ie Youtube videos and asking questions about a specific aspect of the game on the discord channel) Unfortunately a patch just dropped that had a big impact on viable builds and strategies for Infernal so information out there that is current to the patch is pretty scarce as people are still trying to figure out how to adapt to the changes.

this is the official stormgate Discord [discord.gg] the community is pretty good I suggest you check it out the people there are pretty knowledgeable and welcoming of newcomers in my experience.

TLDR: There are no Official Resources on how to play infernal even just the basics you have to look up youtube videos and ask questions about specific things such as build orders to learn and most of it will pertain to the 1v1 Ladder experience. Good luck on learning how to play.
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Broockle Aug 27, 2024 @ 2:46pm 
Not yet, if you want to play a good single player campaign then maybe play the SC2 campaigns first if you're completely new to the space.
Or just make a custom game in Stormgate against an AI that doesn't do too much, and just build all the buildings and units and see what they all do.
There are some build guides on youtube you can use to get your first build going efficiently so you can use it on the ladder. Tho there's tons of people on the ladder that also hardly know how to play at all so you might be in good company anyway 😅

Main thing is to have fun, so just see what works for you.
Last edited by Broockle; Aug 27, 2024 @ 2:46pm
cool skill Aug 27, 2024 @ 3:36pm 
How can playing SC2 campaign learn the specifics of this game? I doubt it. I'll try doing a custom game. I don't need a build order video. I need to know how this game/race works.
Xelzidar Aug 27, 2024 @ 5:14pm 
Originally posted by cool skill:
How can playing SC2 campaign learn the specifics of this game? I doubt it. I'll try doing a custom game. I don't need a build order video. I need to know how this game/race works.

Well you got 3 races. Vanguard, which is like a terran based army but different. Infernal is somewhat zerg like and Celestial is somewhat like Protos. But i think you start by trying to find your race first that you most enjoy through custom game and i suggest putting the bot on lowest difficulty as it wont attack you and should give you plenty of time to find out how to setup a base, and learning all tier units and upgrades for each tier units, so that you get a bit of the hang on all 3 races. To easily get used to controlling the game, i would deff make use of the base grid of the game from Q to R i think. Then you can easily swap between what you want to build, what units you want and so on, just make sure you read what everything does so that you get an understanding of the basic fundamentals of the game.

To create Control Groups, hold Left Ctrl button and then select any number from 1 to 0 to create a control group also known as macro. I hope this helps you out a bit, and enjoy the Game !
Last edited by Xelzidar; Aug 27, 2024 @ 5:16pm
Broockle Aug 27, 2024 @ 5:44pm 
Originally posted by cool skill:
How can playing SC2 campaign learn the specifics of this game? I doubt it. I'll try doing a custom game. I don't need a build order video. I need to know how this game/race works.
Mostly cause micro/macro has the same relationship in both games.
You asked for a tutorial and SC2 has its campaign (which is pretty good), that's why I brought it up.
Stormgate's campaign will take a while still. It's got 6 levels so far and half of them only have micro.
Last edited by Broockle; Aug 27, 2024 @ 5:45pm
-VG- Napster Aug 27, 2024 @ 7:30pm 
Originally posted by cool skill:
I have no clue how to play. Is there a tutorial section? Or should I just play the campaign? I want to learn to use Infernals.

Infernal host 101
https://stormgate.untapped.gg/en/learn

and i would suggest hop in their discord the even are channels for each individual race.
Last edited by -VG- Napster; Aug 27, 2024 @ 7:31pm
cool skill Aug 27, 2024 @ 7:45pm 
Originally posted by -VG- Napster:
Infernal host 101
https://stormgate.untapped.gg/en/learn

and i would suggest hop in their discord the even are channels for each individual race.
Thanks. Video gives info on Infernals. But doesn't actually teach how to play the game. In fact, clicking the learn button in the game goes to that page with random unprofessional YT videos. None of which actually teach how to play versus.
-VG- Napster Aug 27, 2024 @ 7:52pm 
Originally posted by cool skill:
Originally posted by -VG- Napster:
Infernal host 101
https://stormgate.untapped.gg/en/learn

and i would suggest hop in their discord the even are channels for each individual race.
Thanks. Video gives info on Infernals. But doesn't actually teach how to play the game. In fact, clicking the learn button in the game goes to that page with random unprofessional YT videos. None of which actually teach how to play versus.

information is scarce otherwise
you will not find what youre looking for there is no "hey you need to play it exactly like this."

the only advices i can give you is

1) go into a costum game get familier with the units and what they do and can´t do

2) look up youtube videos of the tournaments

3) gather information on how ressources work aka worker counts on luminte, therium, creep camps < this is vital information as this depends what youre able to build and when youre able to build x amount of units.

4) just start trying things with the knowledge you gained from it.
wich will enable you to ask more specific questions and then you also will find answers to stuff you struggle with.

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otherwise just play the game make sure youre not getting supply blocked and try to push units that are effective against your current enemies army composition
this knowledge will come over time.
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All in all just play around against bots for example in a costum game if you do not wanna do excesive research and you will notice rather quickly wich information you need and then you will also be able to ask more specific questions that will help you.
Last edited by -VG- Napster; Aug 27, 2024 @ 7:56pm
cool skill Aug 27, 2024 @ 7:55pm 
Originally posted by -VG- Napster:
"hey you need to play it exactly like this."
IDK what this means. Every single game available has rules on how to play. And it is all exact. Even if I alter hotkeys. All keys have exact functions. Everything on the screen has exact functions. It is all exact. In every PC game.
Last edited by cool skill; Aug 27, 2024 @ 7:55pm
-VG- Napster Aug 27, 2024 @ 7:58pm 
Originally posted by cool skill:
Originally posted by -VG- Napster:
"hey you need to play it exactly like this."
IDK what this means. Every single game available has rules on how to play. And it is all exact. Even if I alter hotkeys. All keys have exact functions. Everything on the screen has exact functions. It is all exact. In every PC game.

youre asking basicly for a step by step guide on how to exactly play infernal

this is impossible to answer as this is an RTS, games are dynamic it heavily depends on wha the enemy does and wich unit he produces.

the basics of how the game works you can find in the link i already posted
https://stormgate.untapped.gg/en/learn

if all of that does not help you
i dont understand your question.

but yeah you can start with the campagin (alltough its pay to access)
or go into costum games against bots to familiarize yourself with the game better
Last edited by -VG- Napster; Aug 27, 2024 @ 8:00pm
cool skill Aug 27, 2024 @ 8:03pm 
Originally posted by -VG- Napster:
Originally posted by cool skill:
IDK what this means. Every single game available has rules on how to play. And it is all exact. Even if I alter hotkeys. All keys have exact functions. Everything on the screen has exact functions. It is all exact. In every PC game.

youre asking basicly for a step by step guide on how to exactly play infernal

this is impossible to answer as this is an RTS, games are dynamic it heavily depends on wha the enemy does and wich unit he produces.

the basics of how the game works you can find in the link i already posted
https://stormgate.untapped.gg/en/learn

if all of that does not help you
i dont understand your question.

but yeah you can start with the campagin (alltough its pay to access)
or go into costum games against bots to familiarize yourself with the game better
Completely false in every way. As already made clear. There is absolute zero on that site regarding basics on how to play.

Secondly it is indeed absolutely possible to learn exactly how to play it. I know exactly how to play each race in SC2. And exactly how to play one civilization in AOE4,

It is not a complex question to understand. It is how to play the game. Or how to even learn how to play. Because obviously there is no tutorial. This applies to every single game ever made. Whether video game or regular game. There are rules on how to play. So what do you not comprehend about the question? If I want to know how to play chess, I would ask how to play chess. Or Monopoly which has directions. Or any PC game. It's a very clear cut question. Where is the information on how to play this game. And it is absolutely not on that useless website with completely unprofessional videos that do not teach how to play.
Last edited by cool skill; Aug 27, 2024 @ 8:06pm
-VG- Napster Aug 27, 2024 @ 8:10pm 
Originally posted by cool skill:
Originally posted by -VG- Napster:

youre asking basicly for a step by step guide on how to exactly play infernal

this is impossible to answer as this is an RTS, games are dynamic it heavily depends on wha the enemy does and wich unit he produces.

the basics of how the game works you can find in the link i already posted
https://stormgate.untapped.gg/en/learn

if all of that does not help you
i dont understand your question.

but yeah you can start with the campagin (alltough its pay to access)
or go into costum games against bots to familiarize yourself with the game better
Completely false in every way. As already made clear. There is absolute zero on that site regarding basics on how to play

Secondly it is indeed absolutely possible to learn exactly how to play it. I know exactly how to play each race in SC2. And exactly how to play one civilization in AOE4,

yeah iam not going to write a 10 page essay just to tell you each single thing about a complete race and probably i do not even know every single thing about them.

if you come from starcraft you should be able to understand the game rather quickly
unless you make this more complicated than it needs to be

but yeah go ahed and try your luck in their official discord in the infernal channel
thats usualy the place where you will get answers you may looking for.
cool skill Aug 27, 2024 @ 8:12pm 
Originally posted by -VG- Napster:
Originally posted by cool skill:
Completely false in every way. As already made clear. There is absolute zero on that site regarding basics on how to play

Secondly it is indeed absolutely possible to learn exactly how to play it. I know exactly how to play each race in SC2. And exactly how to play one civilization in AOE4,

yeah iam not going to write a 10 page essay just to tell you each single thing about a complete race and probably i do not even know every single thing about them.

if you come from starcraft you should be able to understand the game rather quickly
unless you make this more complicated than it needs to be

but yeah go ahed and try your luck in their official discord in the infernal channel
thats usualy the place where you will get answers you may looking for.
What 10 page essay are you talking about? It's a simple question that can be answered in pretty much one sentence. Which you even basically mentioned a possibility regarding discord.

And also ignoring the point.

It is not a complex question to understand. It is how to play the game. Or how to even learn how to play. Because obviously there is no tutorial. This applies to every single game ever made. Whether video game or regular game. There are rules on how to play. So what do you not comprehend about the question? If I want to know how to play chess, I would ask how to play chess. Or Monopoly which has directions. Or any PC game. It's a very clear cut question. Where is the information on how to play this game. And it is absolutely not on that useless website with completely unprofessional videos that do not teach how to play.
-VG- Napster Aug 27, 2024 @ 8:19pm 
Originally posted by cool skill:
Originally posted by -VG- Napster:

yeah iam not going to write a 10 page essay just to tell you each single thing about a complete race and probably i do not even know every single thing about them.

if you come from starcraft you should be able to understand the game rather quickly
unless you make this more complicated than it needs to be

but yeah go ahed and try your luck in their official discord in the infernal channel
thats usualy the place where you will get answers you may looking for.
What 10 page essay are you talking about? It's a simple question that can be answered in pretty much one sentence. Which you even basically mentioned a possibility regarding discord.

And also ignoring the point.

It is not a complex question to understand. It is how to play the game. Or how to even learn how to play. Because obviously there is no tutorial. This applies to every single game ever made. Whether video game or regular game. There are rules on how to play. So what do you not comprehend about the question? If I want to know how to play chess, I would ask how to play chess. Or Monopoly which has directions. Or any PC game. It's a very clear cut question. Where is the information on how to play this game. And it is absolutely not on that useless website with completely unprofessional videos that do not teach how to play.

i provided you with all the information you need to get started you can keep ignoring it and never advance this is on you ^^

again go into their discord infernal channel < there is no better source from people that main that race.
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but if you insist on an answer on "how to play the game"

you learn by playing it
Last edited by -VG- Napster; Aug 27, 2024 @ 8:19pm
cool skill Aug 27, 2024 @ 8:20pm 
Originally posted by -VG- Napster:
i provided you with all the information you need to get started you can keep ignoring it and never advance this is on you ^^

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but if you insist on an answer on "how to play the game"

you learn by playing it
Wrong. Considering it's not even possible to play if you don't know how. Not to mention I have not ignored anything. Nor did I ask how to play. Even though that is what I need to know. That is not what I asked.
Last edited by cool skill; Aug 27, 2024 @ 8:21pm
-VG- Napster Aug 27, 2024 @ 8:21pm 
Originally posted by cool skill:
Originally posted by -VG- Napster:
i provided you with all the information you need to get started you can keep ignoring it and never advance this is on you ^^

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but if you insist on an answer on "how to play the game"

you learn by playing it
Wrong. Considering it's not even possible to play if you don't know how. Not to mention I have not ignored anything. Nor did I ask how to play.

XD ok bud good luck.
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