In defence of Singleplayer.

[Mix Heart]

StormGate like many games really does need a singleplayer mode. Ever since WoW companies assume Multiplayer is all the rage these days it's annoying. People have things to do in life, they get sick they go to the hospital they have jobs. Not everyone has no Life. The ability to pause save and come back later and play off grid offline is immensely valuable.

[Mothvibe]

Couldn't agree more.

Gaming has forgotten it's a hobby. Hobbies should fit in with our lives, and be available at the drop of a hat.

Modern gaming (classic gaming had its own issues, but that's not the topic here) is just one pain point after another.

Maybe I don't have 10 hours to dedicate to gaming today. Maybe the internet isn't reliable where I live. Maybe I don't want to give money to sex pests. Maybe I have standards. Maybe I play games to RELAX, not do a bunch of stupid digital paperwork for what's essentially an unpaid job.

So much of gaming today is about what's convenient for the publishers/devs, and I'm just sick of it. We play games to escape that kind of 'you don't matter in society' nonsense, yes?

Voting with your wallet won't change anything on a large scale, but it'll save you a lot of time and money in the long run.

[Mr. Deadlift]

PvE AI always was 80+% of players. Even WoW got that mostly right. PvP success must be primarily Fortnite,League, Call of Duty, CS and yea a lot of FPS titles and a single DOTA ripoff or two.

[Kern]

Originally posted by Mr. Deadlift:

PvE AI always was 80+% of players.

Count the junior players, on pokémon, mario...
Count single-player players, Elden Ring, BG3, Black Myth
Count the casu players who explore the single-player content of multiplayer games (Diablo, Wow...).
Count Sims, Minecraft, CandyCrush and others ultra-cusual games and sandboxes.
And don't forget the grandpa who plays solitaire on his tablet and other card games...
All in all, multiplayer gaming is just one small facet of the video game world.

Add to this the fact that multiplayer and PvP gamers have a strong tendency to stick to old games, such as CS, Fortnite... They have no reason to move on to other games, as these are already “perfect” for what they're looking for, even if they love raging on forums for various reasons. Multiplayer PvP players are generally extremely loyal to their games and will rarely go looking for something new. And even in this category of player, those who like 1v1 are largely in the minority, it's team play that is largely predominant and makes up 98%+ of multiplayer players.

I'm convinced that a good proportion of SC2 1v1 players will prefer to stay with SC2 whatever happens to this game, even if an interesting alternative emerges. That's loyalty beyond reason.

And then there's FrostGiant, which ignores solo players, ignores team PvP and wants to attract 1v1 PvP players...

[Mix Heart]

Originally posted by Kern:

Originally posted by Mr. Deadlift:

PvE AI always was 80+% of players.

Count the junior players, on pokémon, mario...
Count single-player players, Elden Ring, BG3, Black Myth
Count the casu players who explore the single-player content of multiplayer games (Diablo, Wow...).
Count Sims, Minecraft, CandyCrush and others ultra-cusual games and sandboxes.
And don't forget the grandpa who plays solitaire on his tablet and other card games...
All in all, multiplayer gaming is just one small facet of the video game world.

Add to this the fact that multiplayer and PvP gamers have a strong tendency to stick to old games, such as CS, Fortnite... They have no reason to move on to other games, as these are already “perfect” for what they're looking for, even if they love raging on forums for various reasons. Multiplayer PvP players are generally extremely loyal to their games and will rarely go looking for something new. And even in this category of player, those who like 1v1 are largely in the minority, it's team play that is largely predominant and makes up 98%+ of multiplayer players.

I'm convinced that a good proportion of SC2 1v1 players will prefer to stay with SC2 whatever happens to this game, even if an interesting alternative emerges. That's loyalty beyond reason.

And then there's FrostGiant, which ignores solo players, ignores team PvP and wants to attract 1v1 PvP players...

Yet Multiplayer service only games are doomed to fail, there is example after example of this. Darkspore, Devilian Gundam Evolution: Shut down on a specific date, with a mention of the CEO’s misconduct.
Marvel Heroes: Shut down due to the CEO’s scandal, with no single mention of a specific date.
Worlds Adrift: Shut down within two years of its early access release, with a revival effort announced later.
The Cycle: Frontier: Shut down after around a year, citing cheating issues and low player numbers.
Spellbreak: Shut down after two years, with a community version released on Itch.io.
Rumbleverse: Shut down after six months, citing low player numbers.
Lawbreakers: Shut down due to poor marketing, uninspired art direction, and high skill requirements.
Paragon: Shut down due to a lack of common ground between the developers’ direction and player expectations.
Echo VR: Shut down along with several other live-service games (Crimesight, Dragon Quest: The Adventure of Dai - A Hero’s Bonds, CrossfireX, Knockout City, Apex Mobile, and Battlefield Mobile) within a short period in February.
Crimesight: Shut down along with other live-service games (Echo VR, Dragon Quest: The Adventure of Dai - A Hero’s Bonds, CrossfireX, Knockout City, Apex Mobile, and Battlefield Mobile) within a short period in February. And more.

[Mix Heart]

An example of games that cannot die because of not requiring live service. Minecraft, Teamfortress 2, Super Smash Bros, Injustice 2, Warcraft 3 games that are in circulation before reforged, Startcraft 1 games in circulation before battle net. Age of Mythology, Age of Empires, Civilization 1 to 5 and so, so so many more. All kept alive by the fact they are not live service, with dedicated fans who would willingly spend money to improve they're experience in those games. A further point to everything I am saying here is World Of Warcraft the very inspiration for live service is failing these days. The Live Service model is and always will be, short sighted and doomed to eventually fail, the art being left behind a wall of copyright and online service management.

[Visuv - Hail O’Brien]

Ironic that the type of players you'd need to upvote/comment this, will simply miss it.
+1 fully agree