Level select

[rafimsharif]

Is there no level select once i beat the game

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by rafimsharif:

Is there no level select once i beat the game

Nope, like in the original game once you finish the game you're stuck at Metallic Madness and the only way to have a level select in this version is through the Time Attack.


I agree that Whitehead should've put a Sonic 3&K-styled save system where you had a level select upon finishing the game.

[Leonard]

To unlock the level select you have to finish all the time attack stages with an accumulated time of less than 25min.
After that you unlock time attack for the special stages where again, you have to get an accumulated time of less than 5min (4min if you also want to unlock the sound test menu).

I recommend watching some basic speed runs of the levels to find an optimal route or you just use a save file.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=180379198

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by Leonard:

To unlock the level select you have to finish all the time attack stages with an accumulated time of less than 25min.
After that you unlock time attack for the special stages where again, you have to get an accumulated time of less than 5min (4min if you also want to unlock the sound test menu).

25 minutes is long enough for 1 minute and a half for each stages?

[NBOX21]

Yeah, it's pretty dumb if you ask me. Unlike Klonoa and Sonic 3 & Knuckles which lets you pick any level you want after beating the game, it's more like the PS1 Harry Potter games where you're stuck at the end of the game after you finish it and can't do anything else until you start a new game (at least Sonic CD has time trials).

Originally posted by Ikagura:

I agree that Whitehead should've put a Sonic 3&K-styled save system where you had a level select upon finishing the game.

There's something we can both agree on. Yes, I'm aware CD's original save system was like this too, but that doesn't mean it has to be this way in remakes or enhanced ports as well. This game's save system was a case of being faithful to the original game to a fault if you ask me.

Originally posted by Leonard:

To unlock the level select you have to finish all the time attack stages with an accumulated time of less than 25min.
After that you unlock time attack for the special stages where again, you have to get an accumulated time of less than 5min (4min if you also want to unlock the sound test menu).

Even that has its flaws, however. You can't save your game and you restart with zero time stones, meaning it can't even be used to get the good ending if you miss your chance to grab all the time stones or destroy all the robot generators in the past. It's also useless for the Metal Sonic hologram achievement, all because Whitehead didn't even bother updating this game's save system to be more like future Sonic games.

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by NBOX21:

Yeah, it's pretty dumb if you ask me. Unlike Klonoa and Sonic 3 & Knuckles which lets you pick any level you want after beating the game, it's more like the PS1 Harry Potter games where you're stuck at the end of the game after you finish it and can't do anything else until you start a new game (at least Sonic CD has time trials).

Originally posted by Ikagura:

I agree that Whitehead should've put a Sonic 3&K-styled save system where you had a level select upon finishing the game.

There's something we can both agree on. Yes, I'm aware CD's original save system was like this too, but that doesn't mean it has to be this way in remakes or enhanced ports as well. This game's save system was a case of being faithful to the original game to a fault if you ask me.

I have no idea that PS1 HP was like that.

As for the remaster, even Sonic 3 complete and Sonic 3D Blast DX had the possibility to make the game like the original for the purists (as much as it is silly because you'd rather load up the original rom).

Also Whitehead's remake doesn't even add the classic loading screen from the original...

[Leonard]

Originally posted by NBOX21:

Even that has its flaws, however. You can't save your game and you restart with zero time stones, meaning it can't even be used to get the good ending if you miss your chance to grab all the time stones or destroy all the robot generators in the past.

At least you can save scum the special stages in this version so you get infinite tries if you exit fast enough ^^

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by Leonard:

Originally posted by NBOX21:

Even that has its flaws, however. You can't save your game and you restart with zero time stones, meaning it can't even be used to get the good ending if you miss your chance to grab all the time stones or destroy all the robot generators in the past.

At least you can save scum the special stages in this version so you get infinite tries if you exit fast enough ^^

Yeah at least but I wish they actually made one save per Zones and not per Acts like in S3&K.