Rule the Waves 3

Rule the Waves 3

Madiath Nov 24, 2023 @ 5:16am
Why is the game is so expensive?
I mean, is single player, the looks is like excel , is only in english and cost 40 dolars.. I now the developers put efford in the game and only programmers apreciate that , but...
You have to look the attractiveness of the game of the person who is buy it. All I'm saying is that I would buy the game if it were cheaper. Because if I have to choose between this game and other games... come on, put your hand on your heart. 2023, :diplomacy:
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mk11 Nov 24, 2023 @ 6:03am 
The ideal price point for a game is where some people would buy it if it was cheaper.

Just put it on your wish list and wait until there is a big enough sale.
Madiath Nov 24, 2023 @ 6:13am 
I didn't say that , just little less expensive:OhNoBlue:
uni-sp Nov 24, 2023 @ 6:28am 
well, this product is a niche product. you can't expect to attract people outside of a very well defined group of people. that limits the number of customers more or less naturally. so, when calculating the price for the product, you have to acknoledge that the number of copies you can sell in the best case is still limited. so the price is naturally higher then for a product with a much bigger potential customer base.

You'll have this with every niche product. they are more expensive, because producing them is connected to higher arbitrage costs.
games22 Nov 24, 2023 @ 9:23am 
game is junk after a while it becomes nothing but save scamming vs the RNG. o sweet had a nice battle last turn and sank 1/3 the enemy fleet....peace deal and get nothing. Also have to love how you cant pick what ships to send into battle or even pick what battle you want without giving the enemy 600-1k points x 5 trying to get the fleet battle
ulzgoroth Nov 24, 2023 @ 12:32pm 
Pricing the game to be attractive to people who are comparison-shopping on graphics and multiplayer would be an idiot's game, because the game isn't even trying to compete on those features.

To people who want what RTW3 is about, there's hardly any alternative out there for it to be competing with. Maybe UA:D.
khorne8 Nov 27, 2023 @ 10:51am 
Originally posted by Madiath:
I mean, is single player, the looks is like excel , is only in english and cost 40 dolars.. I now the developers put efford in the game and only programmers apreciate that , but...
You have to look the attractiveness of the game of the person who is buy it. All I'm saying is that I would buy the game if it were cheaper. Because if I have to choose between this game and other games... come on, put your hand on your heart. 2023, :diplomacy:
Welcome to simulation games! This is a niche product and you should expect to pay a niche price. If that isn't your cup of tea, well, that's why it's niche. And come on, don't beg, it's unseemly.
Originally posted by games22:
game is junk after a while it becomes nothing but save scamming vs the RNG. o sweet had a nice battle last turn and sank 1/3 the enemy fleet....peace deal and get nothing. Also have to love how you cant pick what ships to send into battle or even pick what battle you want without giving the enemy 600-1k points x 5 trying to get the fleet battle
One of the great things about simulation gaming is that you get to enjoy tears like these. Poorly punctuated, ungrammatical tears from users with skill issues. Every forum for a game like this is filled with hilarious weeping like this.
Domovric Dec 14, 2023 @ 11:11pm 
The level of delusion (and arrogance, thanks korne for reinforcing that. You a dev too? Your detached attitude matches theirs) in this thread...

Its expensive because the devs are greedy as hell selling the playable part of their game for a third time with no usability updates or an real understanding of human UI/UX design. The lack of fundamental UI options on the 3rd iteration of this game in the 2020s is hilarious.

It being an niche product doesnt shield it from being criticized. This ♥♥♥♥ is bad UI design 25 years ago, its even less excusable now given the number of tools avalible in the year of our lord 2023. It having ♥♥♥♥ battle generation and lack of actual simulation/doctrine options wasnt good in the last 2 versions of this game, its even less excusable now.

Keep claiming legit complaints are a skill issue because their grammar is poor. The forums are filled with it because it remains ♥♥♥♥.

Steer clear, or "try before you buy".
Ziggurt Dec 15, 2023 @ 4:24am 
Originally posted by Madiath:
I mean, is single player, the looks is like excel , is only in english and cost 40 dolars.. I now the developers put efford in the game and only programmers apreciate that , but...
You have to look the attractiveness of the game of the person who is buy it. All I'm saying is that I would buy the game if it were cheaper. Because if I have to choose between this game and other games... come on, put your hand on your heart. 2023, :diplomacy:

They pushed up the price (which was about 25 USD for RTW2 if I remember correctly) when they moved to steam. Which is kinda what people do when Gabe takes 1/3 of your earnings for hosting it on his platform.

Steam forums being steam forums - some people ignore the basic economics and go for "greedy devs" explanation....
Last edited by Ziggurt; Dec 15, 2023 @ 4:56am
Green Knight Dec 15, 2023 @ 5:08am 
Originally posted by Madiath:
I mean, is single player, the looks is like excel , is only in english and cost 40 dolars.. I now the developers put efford in the game and only programmers apreciate that , but...
You have to look the attractiveness of the game of the person who is buy it. All I'm saying is that I would buy the game if it were cheaper. Because if I have to choose between this game and other games... come on, put your hand on your heart. 2023, :diplomacy:

The gameplay makes it well worth the price.
Resoula Dec 15, 2023 @ 6:17am 
I think the simplest answer is that they set the bar of what would make this a financial success to sustain/promote their careers, and they set a price that they believe will help them hit that target. Realistically, game devs sell keys that they can spawn from nothing. They would likely sell the game to every person alive at whatever the exact max price is that they are willing to pay for it. Whether that is $1, or even $1,000. It would be a win for them if they could make a customer out of everyone. Even if half the earth's population paid less than a penny, that otherwise never would have bought the game otherwise. Lacking the ability to honestly acquire that information and implement its use, they then need to pick prices that they think strikes a balance between *everyone* that is interested in their game that does not already own it. If they are still in business, then that means they have picked a price that does accomplish their goals (at least enough to sustain their careers). So, that would be why it is priced the way it is, and you can carry that to any and every digital game in existence.
Last edited by Resoula; Dec 15, 2023 @ 6:19am
khorne8 Dec 15, 2023 @ 9:38am 
Originally posted by Domovric:
The level of delusion (and arrogance, thanks korne for reinforcing that. You a dev too? Your detached attitude matches theirs) in this thread...
You may want to consider rewriting this. When you display a poor grasp of the English language, it indicates that you're either very young, or not very intelligent, and that your opinion shouldn't be given any weight.
Originally posted by Domovric:
Its expensive because the devs are greedy as hell selling the playable part of their game for a third time with no usability updates or an real understanding of human UI/UX design. The lack of fundamental UI options on the 3rd iteration of this game in the 2020s is hilarious.
Let's check the reviews: 91% positive. That's interesting. It seems there's a good market for this product at this price point, even if the UI does smell of Windows 98. And by the way, when you're using "it's" as a contraction of "it is," it needs an apostrophe.
Originally posted by Domovric:
It being an niche product doesnt shield it from being criticized. This ♥♥♥♥ is bad UI design 25 years ago, its even less excusable now given the number of tools avalible in the year of our lord 2023. It having ♥♥♥♥ battle generation and lack of actual simulation/doctrine options wasnt good in the last 2 versions of this game, its even less excusable now.
Now at this point I do have to acknowledge that your apostrophe key may be broken. If you're merely suffering poverty, rather than low intelligence, I apologize.
Originally posted by Domovric:
Keep claiming legit complaints are a skill issue because their grammar is poor. The forums are filled with it because it remains ♥♥♥♥.
I'm claiming that legit complaints are a skill issue because they're a skill issue. If you want AAA UI, go buy AAA games and pollute those forums instead. What I'm doing to you because your grammar is poor, on the other hand, is mocking you.
Originally posted by Ziggurt:
They pushed up the price (which was about 25 USD for RTW2 if I remember correctly) when they moved to steam. Which is kinda what people do when Gabe takes 1/3 of your earnings for hosting it on his platform.
Steam forums being steam forums - some people ignore the basic economics and go for "greedy devs" explanation....
This is the exact explanation which the developers gave when moving to Steam, not that the adolescent whiners in this thread could have been expected to go looking for an explanation. Personally, I'm quite lazy, and I find the convenience of Steam for game updates and such to be well worth the additional $10. I'm sure poor tender Madiath and Domovric would have had a conniption if they'd had to launch the game using the pre-Steam interface.
Last edited by khorne8; Dec 15, 2023 @ 9:45am
Madiath Dec 15, 2023 @ 10:20am 
Originally posted by khorne8:
Originally posted by Domovric:
The level of delusion (and arrogance, thanks korne for reinforcing that. You a dev too? Your detached attitude matches theirs) in this thread...
You may want to consider rewriting this. When you display a poor grasp of the English language, it indicates that you're either very young, or not very intelligent, and that your opinion shouldn't be given any weight.
Originally posted by Domovric:
Its expensive because the devs are greedy as hell selling the playable part of their game for a third time with no usability updates or an real understanding of human UI/UX design. The lack of fundamental UI options on the 3rd iteration of this game in the 2020s is hilarious.
Let's check the reviews: 91% positive. That's interesting. It seems there's a good market for this product at this price point, even if the UI does smell of Windows 98. And by the way, when you're using "it's" as a contraction of "it is," it needs an apostrophe.
Originally posted by Domovric:
It being an niche product doesnt shield it from being criticized. This ♥♥♥♥ is bad UI design 25 years ago, its even less excusable now given the number of tools avalible in the year of our lord 2023. It having ♥♥♥♥ battle generation and lack of actual simulation/doctrine options wasnt good in the last 2 versions of this game, its even less excusable now.
Now at this point I do have to acknowledge that your apostrophe key may be broken. If you're merely suffering poverty, rather than low intelligence, I apologize.
Originally posted by Domovric:
Keep claiming legit complaints are a skill issue because their grammar is poor. The forums are filled with it because it remains ♥♥♥♥.
I'm claiming that legit complaints are a skill issue because they're a skill issue. If you want AAA UI, go buy AAA games and pollute those forums instead. What I'm doing to you because your grammar is poor, on the other hand, is mocking you.
Originally posted by Ziggurt:
They pushed up the price (which was about 25 USD for RTW2 if I remember correctly) when they moved to steam. Which is kinda what people do when Gabe takes 1/3 of your earnings for hosting it on his platform.
Steam forums being steam forums - some people ignore the basic economics and go for "greedy devs" explanation....
This is the exact explanation which the developers gave when moving to Steam, not that the adolescent whiners in this thread could have been expected to go looking for an explanation. Personally, I'm quite lazy, and I find the convenience of Steam for game updates and such to be well worth the additional $10. I'm sure poor tender Madiath and Domovric would have had a conniption if they'd had to launch the game using the pre-Steam interface.

You took our comments quite personally... Is everything okay with the family? xD
I don't think you know the definition of scam. I think that if I sold you an orange for 40 dollars you would buy it.
Last edited by Madiath; Dec 15, 2023 @ 10:26am
ulzgoroth Dec 15, 2023 @ 1:26pm 
Originally posted by Madiath:
You took our comments quite personally... Is everything okay with the family? xD
I don't think you know the definition of scam. I think that if I sold you an orange for 40 dollars you would buy it.
Whether they did or not, that wouldn't be a scam. Because 'high price' and 'scam' aren't synonyms. They're not even related concepts.
khorne8 Dec 15, 2023 @ 1:34pm 
Originally posted by Madiath:
You took our comments quite personally... Is everything okay with the family? xD
I don't think you know the definition of scam. I think that if I sold you an orange for 40 dollars you would buy it.
Well, I wouldn't buy anything from you, regardless of what it was or what price you were offering.

But moving quickly past your choice of scam when you mean overpricing, your example is bad on multiple levels. First, food is a necessity, and video games are a luxury. A better example would have been something like a fine craft beer. And once you're old enough to buy one, you'll find that there's lots of people who are willing to pay more for a really nice beer, even if it isn't for everyone. Meanwhile, guys like you can get by just fine on Budweiser.
Madiath Dec 15, 2023 @ 1:34pm 
Originally posted by ulzgoroth:
Originally posted by Madiath:
You took our comments quite personally... Is everything okay with the family? xD
I don't think you know the definition of scam. I think that if I sold you an orange for 40 dollars you would buy it.
Whether they did or not, that wouldn't be a scam. Because 'high price' and 'scam' aren't synonyms. They're not even related concepts.
No, I speak in the sense that they are selling you something that is not worth that price. Like my example of the orange, how can I explain it... to be honest, you can put the value you want... Now that I can't criticize you for setting such a ridiculous price is another thing. Also in the official page the price is the same, anyways is not i big deal is just a comment .:shcshield:
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