Regarding Supercarriers

[Benlexlin]

In the real world super carriers are about 100,000 tons. This is not achievable in the game due to the dock limitation. Is there a reason why?

[Silamon]

The largest carrier in the world before 1970 was the Enterprise class and they were around 93k tons, not to mention it was a nuclear carrier which are not represented in game for various reasons.

What is the dockyard cap in game?

[SamMAVRS]

91,000 is the cap and it SUUUUUUUUUUUCKS.

if the cap wasnt tide to how much tonnage you can build, this would be ok but it is so it SUUUUUUUUUCKS

[buergermania]

There seems to be some equivocating, here. Supercarriers cannot simply be equated with what we find operating in the real world today. In other words, all USN carriers today are supercarriers, but supercarriers as a class has encompassed smaller carriers than the USN of today operates. Honestly, the term is not a technical one and was invented by the media in its first use in 1938 to refer to the Royal Navy's new HMS Ark Royal, a 686 foot carrier which could carry 72 aircraft. As this article below states, many navies operate carriers that could be considered "supercarriers" since the term is not tied to a technical size, complement of aircraft, or propulsion system. From what I can tell, it seems to best denote carriers which carry more than approx. 50-60 aircraft.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_carrier#Supercarrier

[buergermania]

P.S.

This means that the USS Enterprise was a supercarrier and a nuclear one, which is why it won't appear in the game. But those before it of the Kitty Hawk-class and Forrestal-class were supercarriers, as well. By 1970 they could carry 90 aircraft and this article considers them "supercarriers." And these classes should be able to be built in the game as they both pre-date 1970 and were conventionally powered.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forrestal-class_aircraft_carrier

[buergermania]

P.P.S.

However, having said all this, I would LOVE it if this game would extend to 1990 (end of Cold War) and give us nuclear powered ships (e.g. Nimitz-class carriers, Kirov-class battlecruisers, California and Virginia-class nuclear cruisers, etc.).

[highfivingbears]

Originally posted by Benlexlin:

In the real world super carriers are about 100,000 tons. This is not achievable in the game due to the dock limitation. Is there a reason why?

After a quick google of RTW2, it seems that the game was pretty compatible with modding. I wouldn't be surprised at all if a mod popped up that allowed a person to either uncap or change the tonnage cap for the drydock.

[Breakfast At Gimlis]

Originally posted by highfivingbears:

Originally posted by Benlexlin:

In the real world super carriers are about 100,000 tons. This is not achievable in the game due to the dock limitation. Is there a reason why?

After a quick google of RTW2, it seems that the game was pretty compatible with modding. I wouldn't be surprised at all if a mod popped up that allowed a person to either uncap or change the tonnage cap for the drydock.

You can actually do this right now by just editing the save game file in a text editor. I don't know what will happen if you go above the limit of 93k, but you can easily try it.

[Benlexlin]

Originally posted by buergermania:

P.P.S.

However, having said all this, I would LOVE it if this game would extend to 1990 (end of Cold War) and give us nuclear powered ships (e.g. Nimitz-class carriers, Kirov-class battlecruisers, California and Virginia-class nuclear cruisers, etc.).

I didn't realize this game cuts off at 1970. I just finished my first full campaign. That being said it makes sense if the game ends in 1970s. Conventional super carriers are not as heavy as modern ones, and in game you can already make ridiculous conventional super carriers. Now all we need is a mod that would actually bring us to modern era.