Giant Largemouth Bass (Permanent Mimic Pet Transformation) Questions and Possible Trade

[Cannonaire]

In 1,000 hours I have never seen a Giant Largemouth Bass in Torchlight 2 (all vanilla) and I want to ask a couple questions about it.

1. I have read that its weight in the drop table is 0, but you can still get it sometimes. Is this true?

2. I noticed that there is a fishing luck stat, but I don't recall ever seeing a piece of gear that raises it. Is this stat required for a chance to get a Giant Largemouth Bass? If true, what kind of equipment can do this?

Thank you!

**EDIT**
I realized I'm too paranoid of my characters or account getting a cheater mark from sus items, so I'm not going to trade.

Lastly, I finally finished my builds on all 4 classes except for a couple items. If anyone has a "Giant Largemouth Bass" or "Zardon's Mighty Skull" (NOT "Skull of Zardon"), I would love to trade for them. I only accept vanilla, non-modded, non-duplicated, non-cheated (console or otherwise) 100% legit items. After all of this time I would hate for my characters to get marked as cheated. Those two items are the last things I need.

I have the following I can trade, all legitimately farmed:
20,000,000 Gold
Any and all level 105 equipment, and the level 99 class-specific gear
Most socketables, including 1x Skull of Zardon (No extra Limoany or Whorlbarb)
Various others, but I don't have most legendaries that aren't level 105

I am not trading any enchanted gear.

[steffire3]

Originally posted by Cannonaire:

In 1,000 hours I have never seen a Giant Largemouth Bass in Torchlight 2 (all vanilla) and I want to ask a couple questions about it.

1. I have read that its weight in the drop table is 0, but you can still get it sometimes. Is this true?

2. I noticed that there is a fishing luck stat, but I don't recall ever seeing a piece of gear that raises it. Is this stat required for a chance to get a Giant Largemouth Bass? If true, what kind of equipment can do this?

Best info I could find on the drop rate for this Fish:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/200710/discussions/0/1488866180590691150/#c1488866180596623831

Originally posted by Ziel:

Oh man, I actually found the reddit thread I was thinking of:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Torchlight/comments/11m6re/anyone_have_drop_rates_for_fish/

If you scroll down a bit you can find the drop table, and as you can see, there are 6 permanent fish that can drop. The names don't match but they correspond to the six permanent versions of fish that drop in game: Jackal Bass, Warsnout, Tunnel Shark, Web Fish, Flying Fish, and Crab Egg.

This means "Pocketfish" and "Torsofish" correspond to Largemouth Bass and Bone Fish respectively, and the chance of finding a Big Largemouth Bass is 0.4%, twice as high as each of the giant fish.

As for Fishing Luck as an Affix itself... we don't have easy access to the Item Database these days for TL2 however I seem to remember that one of the Outlander Uniques in the mid-game may have this... otherwise it's almost a non-existent Drop in Vanilla.

[Cannonaire]

Thank you! That gives me a place to start.

[TOG | Phanjam]

Unfortunately, looking into the affix files containing the text "fishing" and "luck" or a few combinations of those did not give any helpful results either.

[Nakos]

Hmm... never seen a Giant Largemouth Bass personally (although that's hardly significant).

Giant Jackal Basses, Tunnel Sharks, Web Fish and Crab Eggs are what I've personally got.

Never had much interest in any of them either to be honest, I prefer the starting pet skins.

[HiFive]

Originally posted by Nakos:

Hmm... never seen a Giant Largemouth Bass personally (although that's hardly significant).

Giant Jackal Basses, Tunnel Sharks, Web Fish and Crab Eggs are what I've personally got.

Never had much interest in any of them either to be honest, I prefer the starting pet skins.

It's not just about looks. The mimics have much better durability and they bite harder.

[Mokum]

to my knowledge the perma mimic fish is not available in unmodded only in modded games

spend more time fishing then i would like to admit (got the 1k fish fished up way back in 2013) never had one drop not on pc and not on console


its in the files but something causes it not to be able to be catched

[Nakos]

Originally posted by HiFive:

It's not just about looks. The mimics have much better durability and they bite harder.

I ... guess

I mean ... I'm not going to say better stats wouldn't be nice ... but ... I dunno ... the aesthetics matter a lot to me.

[Cannonaire]

I do want the stats, to be sure, but the main reason I want the mimic pet is for character/story reasons.

[Nakos]

I personally just really like the animations of the Wolf and the Panther. They amuse me, and that's enough of a reason to keep them (speaking for myself of course).

[Edelgris]

I was fishing and it said I caught an "Improbably Large Fish", but I can't find it in my inventory?

[HiFive]

Originally posted by Edelgris:

I was fishing and it said I caught an "Improbably Large Fish", but I can't find it in my inventory?

It's an odd-looking fish, but I think it usually makes your pet into either a huge troll or a large tree for a short time.

[Edelgris]

Originally posted by HiFive:

Originally posted by Edelgris:

I was fishing and it said I caught an "Improbably Large Fish", but I can't find it in my inventory?

It's an odd-looking fish, but I think it usually makes your pet into either a huge troll or a large tree for a short time.

I found it. It turned out to be an inventory bug where fish for some reason only show up on inventory page 1. So it was just a case of chucking fish in the stash until it showed up. This might be mod related.

[Cannonaire]

Still no consensus on whether you can or can not obtain a Giant Largemouth Bass unmodded?

Does anyone know for certain if it is or isn't possible?

[steffire3]

Originally posted by Cannonaire:

Still no consensus on whether you can or can not obtain a Giant Largemouth Bass unmodded?

Does anyone know for certain if it is or isn't possible?

Sorry to say that I'm not finding anything to confirm this (without mods).
While someone in the past thought it could be dropped in the files (unmodded) - there appears to be no mention of anyone actually dropping it on Reddit or Steam.

[Insanity Pilgrim]

After checking the guts2 code

It is possible to spawn it.

It spawns from Promising Fishing holes using the Unittype FISHING HOLE RARE

After looking at FISHING HOLE RARE Spawn there's a separate Spawn class called FISHING_TL2_PERMAFISH with a weight of 3

After looking at FISHING_TL2_PERMAFISH there's a Unit FISH_POCKETFISH_PERM which is the Giant Largemouth Bass as detailed in Units-Items.

For some context.. a Bigfish has a Spawn weight of 50 from a promising fishing hole.

Giant Largemouth Bass also has to contend with 8 other perm fish.