Torchlight II

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HiFive Mar 13, 2019 @ 2:31am
Cannot play mods.
I've been playing mods for some months now, and I've been playing with one over the past few hours. I logged out of the game and out of Steam about 30 minutes ago. When I logged back in Steam asked me to verify my email address. I did so. Then I launched Torchlight II and clicked on the button to play my modded game. I got a message:

Unable to determine file type (Best guess ASCII). You need to save the file as unicode - recommend doing it in word pad.

I'm hoping the request to verify my email doesn't have anything to do with this.

I have a ton of characters on this mod and other mods, so I'm hoping not to lose them all, although I've started from scratch many times before over the years, and I can live with having to do so again.

I've tried verifying the game files. I've also tried taking my current mod off the list and selecting other mods. Every one of them gives me the same message when I click the button for playing a modded game.

I remember getting this message before. I can't remember in what context I got the message back then or what I did to fix it. I did a search in "discussions" and found one other person getting this message and the person replying said to follow the instructions in the message and they gave information for where to find the files on Windows 10. The problem is that the message gives me no clue as to which file it is having trouble with. Any help would be appreciated.
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potterman28wxcv Mar 13, 2019 @ 5:12am 
Try deleting all of the mod folders (where Steam downloads your TL2 mods) then try again
TOG | Phanjam Mar 13, 2019 @ 7:41am 
Ye HiFive doing what Potterman says will force new downloads of all ur subsribed mods, which *should* get u fresh/clean mod files (that ascii msg is usually in relation to corrupted mod files)
HiFive Mar 13, 2019 @ 12:49pm 
What I don't understand is why ALL of them would be corrupted. Also, sad for me because the creator of the mod pack I am currently hooked on had a stroke and now he and his mod pack are nowhere to be found on this site. I was grateful I could still play the mod but knew if anything happened to it I'd never be able to restore it.
HiFive Mar 13, 2019 @ 1:34pm 
Potterman: I assumed you meant I should unsubscribe to the mods and and then re-subscribe to them. Rather than unsubscribe to ALL of them, I decided to test a few. I unsubscribed to several of them and re-subscribed to a popular one and tried to play it. I still get the same message. Also, I did not mention before that when I click the OK button on the message I then get the message box for "Curses: Torchlight II has Crashed". I don't know if that makes any difference.

Anyway, shouldn't that one popular mod be fixed now? Is there something special about unsubscribing all of them together? Is there some other way to delete them that I can't find? I've looked and don't see any other way to use Steam to delete them.

I see the "Unsubscribe All" button, but I don't want to do that until I'm certain it's necessary and will work. I've subscribed to a fairly large batch of mods, and I still kind of hate to lose that one mod pack, if this is not really the problem.
Last edited by HiFive; Mar 13, 2019 @ 1:38pm
potterman28wxcv Mar 13, 2019 @ 2:30pm 
Originally posted by HiFive:
Potterman: I assumed you meant I should unsubscribe to the mods and and then re-subscribe to them. Rather than unsubscribe to ALL of them, I decided to test a few. I unsubscribed to several of them and re-subscribed to a popular one and tried to play it. I still get the same message. Also, I did not mention before that when I click the OK button on the message I then get the message box for "Curses: Torchlight II has Crashed". I don't know if that makes any difference.

Anyway, shouldn't that one popular mod be fixed now? Is there something special about unsubscribing all of them together? Is there some other way to delete them that I can't find? I've looked and don't see any other way to use Steam to delete them.

I see the "Unsubscribe All" button, but I don't want to do that until I'm certain it's necessary and will work. I've subscribed to a fairly large batch of mods, and I still kind of hate to lose that one mod pack, if this is not really the problem.
If you unsubscribe and subscribe it doesn't do the same thing as deleting the folder, because the mods are still physically present in your hard drive disk even after you unsubscribed them so steam will not download them again and they will stay corrupted.

Like Torchmodders said, the goal of deleting the mod folder is to force the game to download them again. But you really need to delete the mod folder, like going there and pressing Delete.

The mod folder should be somewhere around this location :
C:\Users\"UserName"\Documents\My Games\Runic Games\Torchlight 2\mods

Replace the "UserName" by your own username
Last edited by potterman28wxcv; Mar 13, 2019 @ 2:30pm
steffire3 Mar 13, 2019 @ 3:47pm 
Originally posted by HiFive:
I've been playing mods for some months now, and I've been playing with one over the past few hours. I logged out of the game and out of Steam about 30 minutes ago. When I logged back in Steam asked me to verify my email address. I did so. Then I launched Torchlight II and clicked on the button to play my modded game. I got a message:

Unable to determine file type (Best guess ASCII). You need to save the file as unicode - recommend doing it in word pad.

This is a different problem than mods being "bound" to mod character saves.

Although normally the solution would be to delete the mod folder (You would only lose items in your Stash since your characters, progression and their equipment only require that the same mods be present at any time even if the mods have been wiped and reloaded).

Searching for "file type" errors lead me to find this:

https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/108118/torchlight-2-crash-message-unable-to-determine-file-type-best-guess-ascii

https://forums.runicgames.com/discussion/33831/unable-to-determine-file-type-on-startup

https://www.reddit.com/r/Torchlight/comments/107uuw/failure_to_launch/

http://forums.runicgames.com/discussion/37564/crash-fix-and-unicode-fix

Interestingly. Different people have arrived at different solutions that don't always solve the problem for others so it appears that this can be caused by multiple issues.
Last edited by steffire3; Mar 13, 2019 @ 5:24pm
HiFive Mar 13, 2019 @ 4:49pm 
Update:

I had assumed that only the mods were affected, but somewhere someone said something about their entire game not being playable. I took a chance at losing my stash to try playing the un-modded version of the game, and it also gave me the same error message. So it was the entire game that was not launching!

Some of the threads posted by Steffire suggest that the problem is with the local_settings.txt file. I tried to open it in Wordpad and Notepad and got a blank page. Another person said they deleted the local_settings.txt file and the game worked. I did this and it worked!?!

I still got the error message but then the game loaded and seems playable. My stash is still full of everything I have in it, so I am hoping that it's truly fixed now. I'll update one more time after I've tried playing it for a while.
steffire3 Mar 13, 2019 @ 5:00pm 
Originally posted by HiFive:
Update:
... ... ...
... they deleted the local_settings.txt file and the game worked. I did this and it worked!?!

I still got the error message but then the game loaded and seems playable. My stash is still full of everything I have in it, so I am hoping that it's truly fixed now. I'll update one more time after I've tried playing it for a while.

Thank you for this response! I'm collecting "TL2 Errors and Solutions" Discussions for the TLM2-Help Steam Group if you don't mind me posting this there in more detail (I want to copy, paste and credit the info and users from those Links to help others in the future).
Last edited by steffire3; Mar 13, 2019 @ 5:01pm
HiFive Mar 13, 2019 @ 6:21pm 
Steffire: Sure! Go right ahead and post it!
steffire3 Mar 13, 2019 @ 6:22pm 
Originally posted by HiFive:
Steffire: Sure! Go right ahead and post it!

Thank you @ HiFive !! ^_^
HiFive Mar 13, 2019 @ 10:37pm 
2nd Update:

I said I would make another update after I had a chance to play the game for a little while.

I have been playing a mod created by Hack n Slash. This person had a stroke and I cannot find them or their mods in the Workshop any more. Therefore, the mod cannot be accessed by anyone who does not already have it installed, and it cannot be installed by anyone seeking to fix it when it gets corrupted.

The mod seems to be working fine. The game is playing well with it. All of my stashes are still filled with everything I put in them, seemingly for every character, although I did not check every character's personal stash. The ones I did check had everything in them.

However, I have lost more characters. I had as many as 50 before the Steam Cloud lost most of them last month. All of my many characters for the Synergies mod and for the Torchlight II Essentials mod had disappeared. In a post someone made at the end of February about losing the contents of their stash, someone replied that the Steam Cloud was faulty, and they suggested we turn it off, at least for this game, if not for all games. We would have to do our own backups in case something happened to our computer, but otherwise, we should not lose things. So, I disabled the Steam Cloud for Torchlight II and was no longer losing characters or stash - something which had been happening on a fairly regular basis. I had been giving the game extra time to do saves and to exit the game and to finish downloading stuff after the exit, in order to prevent this, but I was still sometimes losing things - especially newly-created characters. Well, after disabling the cloud I wasn't losing characters or stash and thought the problem was fixed, until now.

So here I am in the middle of March, without any problems except some crashing sometimes when I'm doing a save or just after a save. I guess one of those crashes damaged something and I couldn't get back onto the game. I used the fix listed above and now the game plays but I've lost about 15 more characters, and the only ones left are 6 of my most recently played Hardcore characters. I haven't played the non-hardcore ones in a while, and I have been sequentially numbering the hardcore ones, so I know which ones are the earliest ones. Only my first one still exists because I played it recently. Characters 2 thru 9 are missing, along with one of my deceased ones (I was keeping them to remind me how far they had progressed and how they died, so I don't make the same mistake again), and, as mentioned, the non-hardcore ones are gone.

Perhaps I lost those characters because I haven't played them since I disabled the Steam Cloud. I don't know if that makes sense. Or perhaps the game doesn't like me having so many characters, but I was under the impression there was no limit for that other than having enough space for them. I have tons a space and tons of RAM, and a decent processor, and I have never had missing characters or stashes before playing the game on Steam. I originally purchased the game from Runic, when it was first released, and I have repurchased it 2 more times for different computers. I've never lost anything - even on my old, cheap, business-grade laptop. I got this new machine, linked the game to Steam, downloaded the Synergies mod, which prompted Steam to give me a new copy of Torchlight II, and not long after that I lost my highest level Engineer (probably level 100 - I'm not completely sure).

If anyone has some thoughts on this I'd be glad to hear them.
Last edited by HiFive; Mar 13, 2019 @ 11:32pm
HiFive Mar 13, 2019 @ 11:18pm 
I forgot to include the following:

I finally found my old notes from when I got this error message a few years ago (September 2017). One fix was to verify the game files and then restart my computer immediately after. The other was to delete the above-mentioned settings file. I tried the file verification/restart first. It did not work. Then I tried deleting the settings file and it did work.
steffire3 Mar 15, 2019 @ 6:14pm 
Originally posted by HiFive:
I forgot to include the following:

I finally found my old notes from when I got this error message a few years ago (September 2017). One fix was to verify the game files and then restart my computer immediately after. The other was to delete the above-mentioned settings file. I tried the file verification/restart first. It did not work. Then I tried deleting the settings file and it did work.

Excellent detail work.

Thanks as I look forward to using this info for future encounters players have. ^_^
DelMonte Mar 15, 2019 @ 10:36pm 
yes
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