45-60 FPS Is Very Smooth Playable Framerate

[DuX1112]

And you should stop crying about numbers that don't actually affect your gameplay in any meaningful way and stop trashing games for not living up to your irrelevant expectations.

45-60 FPS is completely smooth and playable, and even 35-45 is passable for most games like third-person adventures (Tomb Raider, Assassin's Creed) platformers, sports games, driving games and the such. If your game dips to BELOW 30? Yes you'd have a valid complaint. Maybe not even then because I spent my youth playing competitive shooters at 24 FPS lol. I guess our eyes and brains were different back then? More CAPABLE? Heh.

Stop OCD-ing about the framerate counters - turn that ♥♥♥♥ off. And actually start playing the games you're buying.

[Spartan]

Its okay to have low standards. It's also okay for the rest of us to have a higher baseline standard for PC gaming.

[Killerspinach]

I used to play CS on my 1st gen Gameboy

[doug]

You're going to get a lot of jester awards, but you're right.

I challenge anyone to accurately determine what framerate they're watching/playing in a blind test, assuming they all stay above 30fps.





inb4 "how can you expect people to tell if they're blinddfolded?"

[Keel]

Originally posted by Spartan:

Its okay to have low standards. It's also okay for the rest of us to have a higher baseline standard for PC gaming.

The point he's making is your standards are irrelevant when it comes to surpassing 60fps in this game. It make absolutely no difference.

[DuX1112]

Originally posted by doug:

You're going to get a lot of jester awards, but you're right.

I challenge anyone to accurately determine what framerate they're watching/playing in a blind test, assuming they all stay above 30fps.





inb4 "how can you expect people to tell if they're blinddfolded?"

True this. I only notice when it sometimes shoots up from 50-60 FPS to 120+ FPS in some games, but that's about it. Not to mention that the human eye (and by extension, brain) are VERY ADAPTABLE, so once you play a game at a certain framerate, your visual perception "normalizes" (mental frame insertion kinda, lol), regardless of whether the framerate is 30, 45, 75 etc.

A few years ago I still had my own machine, and I remember buying Assassin's Creed: Origins. I had an Nvidia 980M back then, and once I cranked almost all settings to Ultra, Origins would run at an average rate of 45 FPS @ 1080p. I remember feeling horrified, because I was not hitting 60, and spent like a whole week trying to improve my performance somehow without sacrificing any visual fidelity.

Then I finally gave up, went like OH WELL, and actually started paying attention to THE GAME. And you know what? The gameplay still felt buttery smooth to me at all times.

So...

[DuX1112]

Originally posted by Spartan:

Its okay to have low standards. It's also okay for the rest of us to have a higher baseline standard for PC gaming.

Correction: I have reasonable standards - my goal is to play a game comfortably. Lower than 60 FPS is completely fine in this sense. Heck, both next-gen consoles have most of the games running at locked 30 FPS, yet the vast, vast majority of people keep playing. So obviously, it's not a real problem.

You have irrational standards - your goal is to pump those FPS numbers up, not actually play the game. I think you should take a honest look in the mirror and self-reflect for a bit. "Do I actually want to play games?" is a good question to start with.

[skeep]

I play on a 144hz monitor but i feel fps drops below 90 :E

[DuX1112]

Originally posted by skeep:

I play on a 144hz monitor but i feel fps drops below 90 :E

I play on a 240hz monitor and a 120hz 4K OLED TV.

I guess if you're spending time in graphically simple games that run on 144 FPS or above constantly, you'd notice a dip to below 90 (it will feel slightly less fast). But since I play Forza 5 on 4K Ultra (RTX on, DLSS Quality) at like, 60-90 FPS, for example, I only notice when it dips below 50. Even then though it looks and feels smooth, the noticeable choppiness for me begins when games hit below 25.

[EleventhStar]

30 fps isn't the worst thing if it's a constant 30fps, but that's ussualy not the case usually it jumps up and down all the time or microstutters and that can be quite noticable/annoying.

[Pepper]

I'll say the only time I had a really noticeable performance drop was during the final boss rush, while enemies were spawning in and I was wildly blasting everything with the graviton gun.

All the particle effects and damage ticks had the game chug for a solid few seconds, but was pretty smooth the rest of the fight and the game in general.

[doublejesus]

It's no bloodbourne but I'll take it, low fps didn't stop me from bending exterminatus over and making it my nergling

[DukeWooze]

This is probably bait but this is one thing that absolutely pisses me off. No sub 60 is not smooth AT ALL period, no argument. 60 should be bare minimum for any game. Any lower than that is unacceptable. And people should demand better, quality of games has gone down for years and it's because people have no standards anymore. Regain some dignity and demand better.

That being said, Boltgun runs butter smooth so I don't know why this thread exists. I guess to farm steam points or something.

[DuX1112]

Originally posted by DukeWooze:

This is probably bait but this is one thing that absolutely pisses me off. No sub 60 is not smooth AT ALL period, no argument. 60 should be bare minimum for any game. Any lower than that is unacceptable. And people should demand better, quality of games has gone down for years and it's because people have no standards anymore. Regain some dignity and demand better.

That being said, Boltgun runs butter smooth so I don't know why this thread exists. I guess to farm steam points or something.

60 has only become the "standard" in the last 2 years or so. While I WANT that to be the standard, it's not very realistic, especially for 4K and the most recent generations of GPUs or consoles that underperform consistently (not to mention the poor game optimizations or inherent game engine problems). The "60 FPS @ 4K everything on Ultra" dream is still not here, and I'm saying this as someone who bought a $2700 gaming laptop with an RTX 3080 last year.

[doug]

Originally posted by DukeWooze:

This is probably bait but this is one thing that absolutely pisses me off. No sub 60 is not smooth AT ALL period, no argument.

This is highly contestable but you say it like it's a fact.

You've been groomed by tech companies to believe this, but that does not make it a fact.

[DukeWooze]

I was able to get games to run at 60+ FPS my whole life, with or without a powerful rig. You just have to have basic knowledge of running a computer. Also 60fps has been standard since at least Quake 2 or 3, certainly not just 2 years ago. On pc of course. Also, if you're gaming at 4k and expect 60 fps then yeah you are expecting too much, hence why I don't run 4k.

I remember when people were complaining about Order 1886, companies don't want to spend time or money properly optimizing their games, but will try to dazzle gamers who have low standards with pretty graphics. Having low standards is why you get trash like Redfall. Stop accepting trash.

BTW it's not contestable at all. Sub 60 is a slide show.