Lord of Change - 10 Second Kill (Exterminatus Difficulty)

[recursor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AITpu8qceG8

Turns out this fight can be cheesed just a tad. Kind of a pity, because this is where the challenge normally starts ramping up. I'm definitely going to look at some... slightly more non-vortex strats for this fight. In the meantime, this'll certainly get you through that first Lord of Change you fight at least.

[Delta_Assault]

Makes sense. The vortex grenade is the BFG of this game.

[Thomas the Gank Engine]

I missed the vortex grenade on that level; my strat for beating the fight on Exterminatus was to avoid line of sight until the mobs were cleared out.

Not sure if they stop altogether, but at least got to a point where only one or two enemies would spawn in. The layout of the arena makes it pretty easy to avoid the boss, the most important thing seemed to be clearing out the two waves of screamers, after that you can easily move about while killing mobs.

At that point it was easy to play peakaboo with the Lord of Change until it was finally dead.

There are some later fights that I wonder about how possible they'd be on Exterminatus without a vortex grenade. The chapter 2 boss seemed insane to me, then I remembered I had a vortex grenade and beat him on the next attempt in less than a minute.

I get the impression the game hasn't been balanced particularly well for Exterminatus, given how it's mostly trivial except for one or two outrageously tough parts.

[Breeder Brock]

Originally posted by recursor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AITpu8qceG8

Turns out this fight can be cheesed just a tad. Kind of a pity, because this is where the challenge normally starts ramping up. I'm definitely going to look at some... slightly more non-vortex strats for this fight. In the meantime, this'll certainly get you through that first Lord of Change you fight at least.

Then don't cheese it.

I mean the fact you had to google this tells us you were really struggling in-game.


Also the Lord of change stops being a 1 time boss and will be a re-occurring enemy type.

[Jesse]

You can also get a Vortex Grenade right before the first Great Unclean One fight. If you're sprinting you'll vault right over it.

[Vostok]

I'm stuck on this boss, every time he gives me an attack that almost puts my life at 0 and I don't know how to avoid it. Any advice?

[Flaxaren]

Originally posted by Vostok:

I'm stuck on this boss, every time he gives me an attack that almost puts my life at 0 and I don't know how to avoid it. Any advice?

As fast as you notice that attack break line of sight with him. It's hitscan so you have to hide.

[Vostok]

Originally posted by Flaxaren:

Originally posted by Vostok:

I'm stuck on this boss, every time he gives me an attack that almost puts my life at 0 and I don't know how to avoid it. Any advice?

As fast as you notice that attack break line of sight with him. It's hitscan so you have to hide.

I will try, ty I'm going to launch a game just to observe because I haven't yet noticed when he's going to launch this attack.

[VonPumpkinson]

Tzeentch has planned its death, sooner or later.

[76561197961275394]

Originally posted by Vostok:

I'm stuck on this boss, every time he gives me an attack that almost puts my life at 0 and I don't know how to avoid it. Any advice?

No you can't and it's dumb as ♥♥♥♥. A hit scan attack that you can't fully dodge. It will hit you every time at least once. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid.

[Traumaturgy]

Just break the line of sight and you will stop getting dmg.

[DreamPod9]

Based Space Marine tactics, don't really see whats "cheesing" the fight if you're just using the tools and terrain you're given.

[recursor]

Originally posted by Barry:

Then don't cheese it.

I mean the fact you had to google this tells us you were really struggling in-game.

Also the Lord of change stops being a 1 time boss and will be a re-occurring enemy type.

Ha, not quite. That's my video. I've beaten the game already on hard and am going through again on extermanatus, currently back in Chapter 2. While I wouldn't say I'm struggling YET, I'm sure some of them Chapter 3 fights will give me a run for my money.

Originally posted by FistAsAVerb:

No you can't and it's dumb as ♥♥♥♥. A hit scan attack that you can't fully dodge. It will hit you every time at least once. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid.

So, that's not entirely true. I wasn't 100% sure on this until taking a little bit of time to mess around in this level, the vid being a byproduct of that.

There is actually a telegraph and delay before the attack. It's just somewhat hard to read and doesn't have an audio cue the way an archvile does. For some of it's attacks, the Lord of Change raises its staff. For the hitscan attack, it moves its sword arm in front of it and a pink glow appears there.

If you wait for the pink glow, it'll probably be too late. But there are two other options. You can break LoS as soon as you see that sword arm move if you feel comfortable doing so. Alternatively, you can peek out from cover and fire 4 plasma shots and duck back. That won't give it time to use the hitscan attack.

Originally posted by DreamPod9:

Based Space Marine tactics, don't really see whats "cheesing" the fight if you're just using the tools and terrain you're given.

Well, I don't think it's illegitimate in this level. But I do think that getting used to a non-vortex kill is better, because I don't know that you'll have a vortex grenade and setup like this every time they pop up. This is probably the best place to get comfortable with the Lord of Change's attacks.

Although I didn't pistol start this level, which I suppose would be the old school challenge.