Prevent AMD Dual Core from installing?

[JohnnyGui]

Hey all,

Is there any way to prevent this ancient abomination from installing the first time you start up the game? I noticed that uninstalling it after it has installed itself on the pc still doesn't remove everything; there are still leftovers like registry entries and folders/files. Also, it made my pc freeze randomly.

After a format I am planning to play this game again but not without finding a way to stop this thing from installing itself on my Intel-based machine again.

Any ideas?

[Charlie]

Download the game but before you click Play (and it install AMD Dual Core stuff) go to the game folder, find the amd dual core optimizer file and delete it, when you click play it will try and install the AMD stuff, fail and just move on. I've been doing this and never had an issue.

[JohnnyGui]

Are you sure about that? Wouldn't Steam just download the missing files again and install it regardless (the next time you click Play)? Sorry for being so picky about this, but I'm worried about this thing causing trouble again on my PC.

[Charlie]

Originally posted by JohnnyGui:

Are you sure about that? Wouldn't Steam just download the missing files again and install it regardless (the next time you click Play)? Sorry for being so picky about this, but I'm worried about this thing causing trouble again on my PC.

Nope, Steam will only ever re-download files if you verify your game cache. You'll be fine.

[JohnnyGui]

Thanks for your answer. When googling about this I read about people editing the registry (adding DWORD values with a number 1 value) or removing particular lines in the installscript.vdf to solve this problem. Why do all this while the solution is so much simpler?

[Charlie]

Originally posted by JohnnyGui:

Thanks for your answer. When googling about this I read about people editing the registry (adding DWORD values with a number 1 value) or removing particular lines in the installscript.vdf to solve this problem. Why do all this while the solution is so much simpler?

People love to over complicate things, they seem to always choose the hardest option.

[JohnnyGui]

The very last question: Is this a fix you have been doing recently or was it a while ago (I see you have played the game in 2013 mostly).

[Charlie]

Originally posted by JohnnyGui:

The very last question: Is this a fix you have been doing recently or was it a while ago (I see you have played the game in 2013 mostly).

I started doing this fix then I was about 70 hours in, which would've been around mid 2013.

[Buck]

Originally posted by GhostMotleyX:

People love to over complicate things, they seem to always choose the hardest option.

This to the upteenth level.

You can uninstall it if you want but it makes no difference. The DC optimizer simply doesn't apply any changes if an applicable CPU does not exist in the system. there is absolutely NO NEED TO muck with the registry or fark with anything else otherwise.

[Charlie]

Originally posted by Buck:

Originally posted by GhostMotleyX:

People love to over complicate things, they seem to always choose the hardest option.

This to the upteenth level.

You can uninstall it if you want but it makes no difference. The DC optimizer simply doesn't apply any changes if an applicable CPU does not exist in the system. there is absolutely NO NEED TO muck with the registry or fark with anything else otherwise.

Installing the AMD DC optimizer does actually cause alot of system performance issues, you don't need to change any registry settings, you can just delete the exe file from the game redist file. Of-course you would know that if you read what was posted before

[Buck]

Originally posted by GhostMotleyX:

Installing the AMD DC optimizer does actually cause alot of system performance issues

No, it doesn't. The internet is full of misinformation about this, but as I said, it only applies to specific old AMD Dual Core CPU's. If the driver does not find applicable hardware (Intel or newer AMD) it simply DOES NOT DO ANYTHING.

Of-course you would know that if you read what was posted before

I read it, and disregarded it because who cares? Just uninstall it if you don't want it installed, but it doesn't do a damn thing to non-applicable hardware otherwise.

[Charlie]

Originally posted by Buck:

No, it doesn't. The internet is full of misinformation about this, but as I said, it only applies to specific old AMD Dual Core CPU's. If the driver does not find applicable hardware (Intel or newer AMD) it simply DOES NOT DO ANYTHING.

Of-course you would know that if you read what was posted before

I read it, and disregarded it because who cares? Just uninstall it if you don't want it installed, but it doesn't do a damn thing to non-applicable hardware otherwise.

You are completely disregarding what JohnnuGui said, he told us in the thread this this previously caused system instability issues. Even if you have an Intel CPU it still installs itself and runs in the background (you can see the process running in windows) and it actually makes the game stutter. Save yourself the time of uninstalling it and just remove it before it can even install, and even if it did do nothing as you suggest you might as well just stop it before it can install, why have software on your PC if it isn't doing anything? You can look at forums all over the internet the AMD DC optimizer does cause issues on some systems.

[AV ON]

I had completely forgotten about this junk so when I installed the GOTY version this was installed too. I quickly uninstalled it and my system has no ill effects (have an intel i5 anyway) but still it sucks to have this sort of crap installed without a warning or prompt to ignore it.

[JohnnyGui]

Buck: Googling AMD Dual Core Optimizer actually reveals users complaining about crashes and performance decreases right after installing that program on incompatible CPU's. Users also report increase in performance/responsiveness after they uninstall it although it doesn't always fix the causing problems (my case).
I read it installs a background service regardless of your CPU type which launches at start up.

Regardless of the above, it is still very vague and messy to have such an outdated software installing itself automatically on any PC with the game. I mean, the number of users still having an Athlon Dual Core CPU and WIndows XP these days are so few that this ancient software is causing problems more frequently than improving performance.

I have sent an email to the WB Support Team with the suggestion of making this software optional for the user or at least let it scan for its needed requirements instead of installing itself on any PC. So far, they have forwarded my email to the developer's team.
Let's see what will come out of this...

[Buck]

Originally posted by GhostMotleyX:

You are completely disregarding what JohnnuGui

Yup, I am.

said, he told us in the thread this this previously caused system instability issues.

I doubt that, because of exactly what i've already said. But either way, simply uninstall it if you don't want it installed.

Even if you have an Intel CPU it still installs itself and runs in the background (you can see the process running in windows) and it actually makes the game stutter.

No, it won't. For the upteenth time, THE DRIVER DOES NOT LOAD IF THERE IS NOT AN APPLICABLE AMD CPU PRESENT!

Save yourself the time of uninstalling it and just remove it before it can even install, and even if it did do nothing as you suggest you might as well just stop it before it can install, why have software on your PC if it isn't doing anything?

Doesn't matter either way.

You can look at forums all over the internet the AMD DC optimizer does cause issues on some systems.

So? You believe everything you read on the internet?
This is nothing new to me. I remember all the same silly conversations back when this program was actually relevant. People think what they want to, but the fact of the matter is that it simply does not work that way.

Originally posted by JohnnyGui:

Buck: Googling AMD Dual Core Optimizer actually reveals users complaining about crashes and performance decreases right after installing that program on incompatible CPU's. Users also report increase in performance/responsiveness after they uninstall it although it doesn't always fix the causing problems (my case).

People think what they want to, but correlation is not causation. They convince themselves that something is happening which isn't

I read it installs a background service regardless of your CPU type which launches at start up.

I don't recall exactly how the thing was setup, but i do clearly recall that the driver DOES NOT LOAD IF THERE IS NOT AN APPLIABLE CPU PRESENT!

Regardless of the above, it is still very vague and messy to have such an outdated software installing itself automatically on any PC with the game. I mean, the number of users still having an Athlon Dual Core CPU and WIndows XP these days are so few that this ancient software is causing problems more frequently than improving performance.

RIght, which is exactly why i'm saying you can just simply uninstall it. But it really doesn't matter either way.

I have sent an email to the WB Support Team with the suggestion of making this software optional for the user or at least let it scan for its needed requirements instead of installing itself on any PC. So far, they have forwarded my email to the developer's team.
Let's see what will come out of this...

I know for a fact that the whole reason they have it installing is because they know it doesn't do squat for anyone BUT the people it might benefit. I doubt they'll change the installer now either way.


Beyond this, you guys can think whatever you want. I'm done with this arguement.

[Charlie]

Originally posted by Buck:

Buck, you can believe whatever you want, the fact is the AMD Dual Core Optimizer does cause issues, I've been playing Batman Arkham City for a long time and I can tell you for a fact the game runs a lot smoother if you don't have the AMD DCO. ''You believe everything you hear on the internet'' WHY should we believe you? So far I can say from experience that it causes the game to stutter, people on forums are saying the exact same and so is JohnnyGui. There is more evidence against you than for you. Face fact, it does install and run in the background. As I said, provide a link that backups your claim, you claimed that the AMD DCO doesn't do anything so back it up. You need to provide the burden of proof.