How strong is Batman really?

[gyrotim]

He can fight dozens of guys, hold a fully grown man over a ledge with one arm and effortlessly pull himself up to places with a grapple. These are bordline superhuman feats.

[Hotel Security]

He's a comic book character.

[gyrotim]

Originally posted by Hotel Security:

He's a comic book character.

I know. He also survived a 3-4 storey fall in a wheelchair. Learn to have some fun with the concept instead of just saying "he's a comic book character".

[gyrotim]

Damn, nobody even wanted to enrtain the idea. Lame.

[Valden21]

Batman's STRONG, yes, But super-strength level? No. Most of his strength is on par with top martial artists and top gymnasts, as he's been training in those disciplines since he was a little kid. He doesn't LOOK ripped, but that's typical for gymnasts and martial artists. After all, gymnasts need to be able to lift their entire body weight; that takes a LOT of strength.

[Chenny]

By Comic book standard he's "Peak human" but still not on the same level as Steve Roger's physically. Real life though = superhuman

[gyrotim]

Originally posted by Chenny:

By Comic book standard he's "Peak human" but still not on the same level as Steve Roger's physically. Real life though = superhuman

Definitely superhuman by irl standards. And he has the discipline to avoid accidentally killing his opponents, like he dia exactly how hard his punches need to be just to knock them out.

[Hotel Security]

^It means the goons are slightly superhuman too. In real life, Batman would absolutely be killing some of these goons with the punches and attacks he lays into them.

[Valden21]

Originally posted by gyrotim:

Originally posted by Chenny:

By Comic book standard he's "Peak human" but still not on the same level as Steve Roger's physically. Real life though = superhuman

Definitely superhuman by irl standards. And he has the discipline to avoid accidentally killing his opponents, like he dia exactly how hard his punches need to be just to knock them out.

No, not superhuman. Superhuman generally means "far beyond the boundaries of what humans can do", and the things that Bats does are at the limits of, but still within, those boundaries. As for the discipline, that's from the YEARS of martial arts training. Batman isn't even the best martial artist in the D.C universe; that's either Cassandra Cain, David Cain, Lady Shiva, or Bronze Tiger. Bats trained under two of those martial artists.

[nkay]

Originally posted by Valden21:

Originally posted by gyrotim:

Definitely superhuman by irl standards. And he has the discipline to avoid accidentally killing his opponents, like he dia exactly how hard his punches need to be just to knock them out.

No, not superhuman. Superhuman generally means "far beyond the boundaries of what humans can do", and the things that Bats does are at the limits of, but still within, those boundaries. As for the discipline, that's from the YEARS of martial arts training. Batman isn't even the best martial artist in the D.C universe; that's either Cassandra Cain, David Cain, Lady Shiva, or Bronze Tiger. Bats trained under two of those martial artists.

how tf does he leap 25 feet to hit one guy in combat?

[gyrotim]

Originally posted by Hotel Security:

^It means the goons are slightly superhuman too. In real life, Batman would absolutely be killing some of these goons with the punches and attacks he lays into them.

True, I don't know anyone irl who can handle a 210 pound man kicking their heads from 10 storeys up. That doesn't even knock them out.

[gyrotim]

Originally posted by nkay:

Originally posted by Valden21:

No, not superhuman. Superhuman generally means "far beyond the boundaries of what humans can do", and the things that Bats does are at the limits of, but still within, those boundaries. As for the discipline, that's from the YEARS of martial arts training. Batman isn't even the best martial artist in the D.C universe; that's either Cassandra Cain, David Cain, Lady Shiva, or Bronze Tiger. Bats trained under two of those martial artists.

how tf does he leap 25 feet to hit one guy in combat?

This too, he moves so fast without even using the grapple.

[Valden21]

Originally posted by gyrotim:

Originally posted by nkay:

how tf does he leap 25 feet to hit one guy in combat?

This too, he moves so fast without even using the grapple.

Ever seen what trained gymnasts can do?

[Hotel Security]

^Yeah, they wear tight leotards. Go put a cape, a heavy polymer suit, and a heavy utility belt on a gymnast and see how they go.

Also Bats is ripped and fairly tall in this game so he's packing at least 240-260lbs, if not more. Most gymnasts are short and around 130-150lbs...which is why they can zip around so quickly. Bats doesn't check any of those boxes.

[gyrotim]

Originally posted by Hotel Security:

^Yeah, they wear tight leotards. Go put a cape, a heavy polymer suit, and a heavy utility belt on a gymnast and see how they go.

Also Bats is ripped and fairly tall in this game so he's packing at least 240-260lbs, if not more. Most gymnasts are short and around 130-150lbs...which is why they can zip around so quickly. Bats doesn't check any of those boxes.

True for the other things, except Batman weighs about 210lbs according to the in-game character menu.

[Valden21]

Originally posted by Hotel Security:

^Yeah, they wear tight leotards. Go put a cape, a heavy polymer suit, and a heavy utility belt on a gymnast and see how they go.

Also Bats is ripped and fairly tall in this game so he's packing at least 240-260lbs, if not more. Most gymnasts are short and around 130-150lbs...which is why they can zip around so quickly. Bats doesn't check any of those boxes.

That's just for artistic gymnastics, which is the one that most easily comes to mind when people hear "gymnastics". There's other styles, and one of them is explicitly based around flexibility and strength. When you've been training in martial arts and gymnastics since the age of 8, you get REALLY strong. By canon, Batman's abilities are at the very limits of what humans can do. No more.