Grapnel boost?

[I Am The One]

I beat the main story but the AR training is not showing up? What else do i need to do to make it appear

[JonoAMano]

After the first Church incursion and before the Steel Mill breach you probably already received the prompt but ignored locating it on your mission map. However, the marker may have disappeared but the location might still be active. In Industrial District, above and near the waterline entrance to Nora's warehouse is a small chimney and a lookout tower. Try standing atop that lookout tower, that's where the first AR training marker spawns.

Overly high screen resolution has been known to interfere with object and proximity registration, and with event and milestone confirmations. If you're running the game with your screen resolution cranked needlessly high or at maximum, reduce it from inside the Launcher:
Steam \ steamapps \ common \ Batman Arkham City GOTY \ Binaries \ Win32 \ BmLauncher

Even after testing the game with screen resolution reduced, you might not get the AR training until NG+ because you already finished the main game. Try it anyway. Let us know your results.

[I Am The One]

Originally posted by JonoAMano:

After the first Church incursion and before the Steel Mill breach you probably already received the prompt but ignored locating it on your mission map. However, the marker may have disappeared but the location might still be active. In Industrial District, above and near the waterline entrance to Nora's warehouse is a small chimney and a lookout tower. Try standing atop that lookout tower, that's where the first AR training marker spawns.

Overly high screen resolution has been known to interfere with object and proximity registration, and with event and milestone confirmations. If you're running the game with your screen resolution cranked needlessly high or at maximum, reduce it from inside the Launcher:
Steam \ steamapps \ common \ Batman Arkham City GOTY \ Binaries \ Win32 \ BmLauncher

Even after testing the game with screen resolution reduced, you might not get the AR training until NG+ because you already finished the main game. Try it anyway. Let us know your results.

Yeah even when I go to that location its not there? Do i need to finish the catwoman storyline (collecting her loot from Dent's men) or do more side missions?

[I Am The One]

Originally posted by JonoAMano:

After the first Church incursion and before the Steel Mill breach you probably already received the prompt but ignored locating it on your mission map. However, the marker may have disappeared but the location might still be active. In Industrial District, above and near the waterline entrance to Nora's warehouse is a small chimney and a lookout tower. Try standing atop that lookout tower, that's where the first AR training marker spawns.

Overly high screen resolution has been known to interfere with object and proximity registration, and with event and milestone confirmations. If you're running the game with your screen resolution cranked needlessly high or at maximum, reduce it from inside the Launcher:
Steam \ steamapps \ common \ Batman Arkham City GOTY \ Binaries \ Win32 \ BmLauncher

Even after testing the game with screen resolution reduced, you might not get the AR training until NG+ because you already finished the main game. Try it anyway. Let us know your results.

Oh and if I get the grapnel in NG+ can I bring it into NG or does it not work that way?

[JonoAMano]

If you already finished the first-run game then I don't think finishing the side missions or Catwoman's tasks will make any difference. The flagset events from the first game already passed, so you might have missed that opportunity. Try it anyway, but before you make that attempt reduce your screen resolution. These games released before 4K was a thing,

Across all 4 Arkham forums members have logged difficulties with overly high screen resolution and problems with texture registration, collision objects, and interactive events: grates, vents, doors, elevators, grappling, buttons, interrogations, crime scene reconstructions in Arkham Knight, evidence or riddle scanning, countering Joker in Arkham Origins, glue rafts in Arkham Origins, Detective Vision, disruptors, proximity encounters like the Penguin catwalk in Arkham City, and quite a few others. Let's add flagset events and milestone confirmations to the list. Reduce your screen resolution and restart the game before you test AR spawning in the first-run game.

To answer your other question about device carryover from NG+ to first-run, it should but I'm really not 100% certain. I know that collectibles retrieved in NG+ will credit in first-run so it's worth a try. After you unlock the Grapnel Boost in NG+, be certain to checkpoint inside an interior location before you quit and switch to first-run, just to be certain the upgrade sets and credits properly before switching game levels. Remember, reduce screen res before you proceed so you don't miss the opportunity again in NG+.

[I Am The One]

Sorry about the quoting, I just didn't think about it. I ended up just starting a new game as that was the only solution. I only play at 1080p which shouldn't be causing any problems. I'm fine with starting over, as its a great game, but I sure wish they would fix this glaring issue.

[JonoAMano]

Give it a shot, also make sure hints are turned on just in case, and check your map screen the moment the AR prompt first appears. It appears while heading toward Industrial District to track Joker's signal, right after the Church explosion. I'll run a test myself on a new game, this time with resolution at maximum and without paying attention to prompts. I'll see if I can get duplicate the glitch on my end, maybe I can find a workaround.

Before I start the game, how do you normally play? Do you first collect trophies and rank up to upgrade devices and abilities, or do you rush into the main missions? I ask because collecting the first trophy unlocks the Riddler Physical Challenges, and may have an effect on other confirmations later in the game.

[I Am The One]

Yeah I was able to get it and had a great time with the game.

And I usually like to do side quests first, and collect trophies when i come across them or when I beat the main story and am bored. I just didn't notice the AR training at first

[JonoAMano]

You got it, awesome. I'll turn hints off and ignore the prompts on my test playthrough, but I'll rank up and do side missions before Catwoman's rescue as I normally would.

It's going to be really strange playing without Grapnel Boost :-)

[JonoAMano]

Well, I made a save after the first Church incursion and escape, then played forward ignoring the prompt while gliding to Industrial District, and not checking the map for the AR spawn point confirmation. I did the Sionis Steel Mill and first Catwoman mission as per usual.

When Joker boots me from the Steel Mill, I met Azrael again and did only a visual inspection of the AR spawn point and again without confirming on the map. Sure enough, the AR marker was present when I zoomed POV from atop the ferris wheel. Not the result I was expecting.

Do you recall what your native PC screen resolution is? I'm playing on a laptop so both my PC and game resolution will only max so high. I ask is because there are multiple threads on this subject, so this is is a recurrent playthrough bug. I still have the post-Church save, so I'll make other attempts to recreate the glitch to nail down whether high screen res is the actual culprit.