Prophet and scout outclass hunter and alchemist

[Ambiguous winkyface]

When you start the game all classes seem fairly balanced, but as time progresses and you build up experience the best classes to go with are easily the scout and the prophet.

Prophet's hp share is absurdly powerful when you have 2 of them(unlimited heal with some coordination) and her weapons out dps everything. The scout himself has not that great dps in comparison to the prophet, but enormous burst damage and the warbow is a pain in the ass.

The hunter's ability grenade is probably my favourite of all ingame, and I easily deal most damage with it. But when it comes to primary abilities and their actual weapon the scout is far superior to the hunter. Overall the scout is just flat out better than the hunter is.

The alchemist is far the least useful class, in almost all games I play she deals least damage in the human team. And when you take 2 prophets with the life share ability the alchemist will be outclassed entirely on all aspects.

The hunter feels lackluster and the alchemist feels flat out weak. When I compare the best hunter players to the best scout players I see out there, there's a MASSIVE difference in damage dealt/death ratio. The scout is just much better. You got this clan 'immortal' or something, which I've mostly seen scout players from, but even when I compare their scouts to hunters the scouts deal almost twice as much damage each game.

The alchemist is obviously alot weaker, and easily the rarest class to see top the human team's damage. All she does is easily avoided and predictable.

[neoVictrix]

The alchemist being useless I feel is partially untrue (since it's one of the classes I mainly use on the Human side). While it does prove to be a not-so-fine choice when dealing with a Sentinel on the enemy team, Alchemists can make decent supports or damage dealers if used properly.

I've been on and faced teams that've been torn to shreds using all hunters and other alchemist-void variations. Even went through half a match once as a scout while the others were everything but alchemist and we were losing bad - switched to the class I know how to use and we managed to not only catch up in score but win the round.

The effectiveness of the classes depends on how good you are with them. It's like the Sentinel or Deciever - we've seen what bad and good players that know how to use those classes look like when they play.

[Knowsley]

Alchemist needs the hitdec bug for projectiles fixed most importantly, as that can stifle her damage greatly and even get her killed. Other than that the only addition she needs is some form of CC that can pull a sentinel out of the sky at close range similar to bola and she will quickly in the hands of someone who can aim be topping scoreboards more reliably even when paired with people of equal skill.

Hunter is not weaker than the scout or prophet, as for dps under the assumption of 100% accuracy which is very much possible at close range he deals roughly 300dps whereas the scout and prophet deal closer to 240-260 on top of the fact per clip he deals more damage allowing for more misses, the hex shot is however a straight upgrade from the bola in every aspect but ripping things off walls/sky due to the silence + slow.

I see alot of people complain about the prophet sacrifice duo and i have even tried it myself with a friend who is good, It does not help in the slightest in winning. In combat both players must forfeit the lifesteal which is a boon to health and damage, they are both removed from the fight in terms of damage. In between fights its only a safe form of healing as if you wipe the vampires you might aswell go heal at the stations anyway and if you take the heal you most likely wipe yourself due to the loss in dps racing, Sacrifice is just better used to heal an ally who is currently being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on by many vampires and the other teammates are aware of this and are actively killing the vampires, but this is a rare situation and only happens agaisnt bad vampires.

[neoVictrix]

Originally posted by Knowsley:

I see alot of people complain about the prophet sacrifice duo and i have even tried it myself with a friend who is good, It does not help in the slightest in winning. In combat both players must forfeit the lifesteal which is a boon to health and damage, they are both removed from the fight in terms of damage. In between fights its only a safe form of healing as if you wipe the vampires you might aswell go heal at the stations anyway and if you take the heal you most likely wipe yourself due to the loss in dps racing, Sacrifice is just better used to heal an ally who is currently being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on by many vampires and the other teammates are aware of this and are actively killing the vampires, but this is a rare situation and only happens agaisnt bad vampires.

Right-o. Seems like the only viable use of double-sacrifice is the brief instance in which the dust clears and all four Vampire players are on the respawn timer. Aside from that it's been deemed by the players as something that can be overlooked (had brought the subject up twice in the past on the official forums). Besides, if the other team pays attention they'll try to put you in a situation to use the ability for them to get an easy kill.