Let's Mod Nosgoth To Play Private or Peer2Peer Servers.

[[N7] Sr. Chalice a.k.a Covid 5G]

We need to take some true action in our own hands. The Publisher doesn't give a RATS A$$. True actions such as, Modding the game so we can play on private servers/Peer2Peer. Because i know it can be done. A group of Modders/Programmers, took a single player game like Just cause 2 and made it possible for online play. I'm sure this can be done with Nosgoth. I don't accept the fact that we should just roll over and never be allowed to play a game that we've invested so much in over the years.

So please cut out the petitions and find some programmers that knows what they are doing. This is how we keep Nosgoth alive. The Publisher doesn't give a Dhamn, they see your petitions, your moaning and they go right back to counting their money. Please hear my call brothers in arms, and lets take back Nosgoth. We need talented Programmers and Modders not PETITIONS. I wanna hear solutions not criticisms. We don't have long before they close this forum down. Lets get the discussion going. Cheers...

[Doc Jenkins]

I like your gumption. I'll see if I can scrounge up someone locally.

[neoVictrix]

Pretty sure I don't have to mention the time/costs involved, as well as the potential DCMA involved if any of Nosgoth's assets are used (only adding more onto time and costs).

It does suck that the game's been shut down, but do keep in mind what's being asked.

[[N7] Sr. Chalice a.k.a Covid 5G]

Originally posted by neoVictrix:

Pretty sure I don't have to mention the time/costs involved, as well as the potential DCMA involved if any of Nosgoth's assets are used (only adding more onto time and costs).

It does suck that the game's been shut down, but do keep in mind what's being asked.

Yeah good luck with that legal jargon, because it wont fly here. No one is making money off this we are taking a game we love and continue to play it. Thats why the industry is trying to push us all to this Always-Online Bull$hitt. Because this way YOU will control how and when we play. And it's working because gamers aren't very smart, and they think it's STILL about the GAMES.When i damn well no all y ou people care about are profits and how to line you rpockets more and more.And the Average gamer just doesn't catch on. Well some of us that plays games are very intelligent people, Not all of us are idiots dude. Yeah good look with the lawsuit bud. Haha you people think you are the only one that went to school. Nosgoth will live on whether or not you foools like it to or not. We will take this game and IT WILL RUN AGAIN. Go discourage else where friend.

[[N7] Sr. Chalice a.k.a Covid 5G]

Originally posted by Doc Jenkins:

I like your gumption. I'll see if I can scrounge up someone locally.

thank you and #LetsMakeNosgothGreatAgain:) I wished i had the know how or else it would be done already. All i can do is try to motivate us in the right direction:(

[Mizta Grym]

Would like to see this happen.

[Ai Dings]

#theunrealtounamentproject...

Done like that way Everybody could be happy...

[McRed]

When left with no other option. I say stick it to em.

[Justmira]

#LetsMakeNosgothGreatAgain
I might know somone who can help

[My Legs Are OK]

It's not that easy, if even possible, sadly. I wanted to get the character models out of the game, and found out that umodel creator tried extacting the files, as he did with many Unreal engine games, but failed. The files are encrypted. The same probably goes for the rest of the files, which are used to configure the connection etc.

[McRed]

Originally posted by My Legs Are OK:

It's not that easy, if even possible, sadly. I wanted to get the character models out of the game, and found out that umodel creator tried extacting the files, as he did with many Unreal engine games, but failed. The files are encrypted. The same probably goes for the rest of the files, which are used to configure the connection etc.

There are other ways. I already know certain individuals that have successfully extracted.

[neoVictrix]

Originally posted by N7 Sr. Chalice a.k.a Elven 40:

Yeah good luck with that legal jargon, because it wont fly here. No one is making money off this we are taking a game we love and continue to play it. Thats why the industry is trying to push us all to this Always-Online Bull$hitt. Because this way YOU will control how and when we play. And it's working because gamers aren't very smart, and they think it's STILL about the GAMES.When i damn well no all y ou people care about are profits and how to line you rpockets more and more.And the Average gamer just doesn't catch on. Well some of us that plays games are very intelligent people, Not all of us are idiots dude. Yeah good look with the lawsuit bud. Haha you people think you are the only one that went to school. Nosgoth will live on whether or not you foools like it to or not. We will take this game and IT WILL RUN AGAIN. Go discourage else where friend.

Trust me, I want to do the same just like everyone else. Hell since I've finally upgraded my computer I've had more reason to finally get back to working with UDK and U4, and had planed to look into Nosgoth for my own reasons.

But just like with nostralrius and every other private server that has been shut down without an okay from the IP's owner simply reverse-engineering and modifying the game has the potential of meeting the same result. One of the reasons I suggest rebuilding rather than simply modding since there's less chance of that happening.

There's right and wrong ways of going about it, just don't want something like that happening if any of us do make significant progress.

Originally posted by McRed:

Originally posted by My Legs Are OK:

It's not that easy, if even possible, sadly. I wanted to get the character models out of the game, and found out that umodel creator tried extacting the files, as he did with many Unreal engine games, but failed. The files are encrypted. The same probably goes for the rest of the files, which are used to configure the connection etc.

There are other ways. I already know certain individuals that have successfully extracted.

Correct, the files are encrypted, but just means it takes longer to go through depending on who's looking at them.

[My Legs Are OK]

Originally posted by McRed:

There are other ways. I already know certain individuals that have successfully extracted.

Well, I wish I knew how to do that.

[McRed]

Originally posted by My Legs Are OK:

Originally posted by McRed:

There are other ways. I already know certain individuals that have successfully extracted.

Well, I wish I knew how to do that.

One way it has been done. Which only works when you can open the game. Was this.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6SN3BU_mKE

I'm sure there are quite a few who used this method while the game was still playable. If you ask around you can probably find people who wouldn't mind uploading the exported files to you.

[Oku]

Originally posted by N7 Sr. Chalice a.k.a Elven 40:

Originally posted by neoVictrix:

Pretty sure I don't have to mention the time/costs involved, as well as the potential DCMA involved if any of Nosgoth's assets are used (only adding more onto time and costs).

It does suck that the game's been shut down, but do keep in mind what's being asked.

Yeah good luck with that legal jargon, because it wont fly here. No one is making money off this we are taking a game we love and continue to play it. Thats why the industry is trying to push us all to this Always-Online Bull$hitt. Because this way YOU will control how and when we play. And it's working because gamers aren't very smart, and they think it's STILL about the GAMES.When i damn well no all y ou people care about are profits and how to line you rpockets more and more.And the Average gamer just doesn't catch on. Well some of us that plays games are very intelligent people, Not all of us are idiots dude. Yeah good look with the lawsuit bud. Haha you people think you are the only one that went to school. Nosgoth will live on whether or not you foools like it to or not. We will take this game and IT WILL RUN AGAIN. Go discourage else where friend.

There is no "legal jargon". DMCA stands for Digital Millenium Copyright Act and a DMCA takedown allows a copyright holder to demand any host remove copyrighted material under threat of lawsuit. You don't have to be making money off it for it to be illegal and copyright infringement, otherwise pirating video games and movies would be legal.

If you do this, you are basically asking a multi-national corporation who shut down the game in the first place to make profit to sue you for everything you have, and fair use won't protect you because you will essentially be using all the games assets which are the copyrighted property of Square Enix.

Believe me, I would LOVE to see this project happen and to have Nosgoth be modded to run on private servers or through peer to peer, and I'm on your side in this.

But sit down, shut the ♥♥♥♥ up, and stop acting like you know ANYTHING about copyright law because everything you just said there is about as ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ as you can possibly get.

Square owns Legacy of Kain. They own Nosgoth. They own the games code and assets. If you try to use that and distribute it without their permission, even if you make no money off it, you can and WILL be obliterated by Square in the court room. They will start with a cease and desist notice, and you can either abide by it or they will sue you in to bankruptcy a thousand times over.

Nosgoth is gone. You are free to try to change that, but I promise you it won't end well for you unless you make your own game from the ground up using Nosgoth's concept as a base. Simply taking the game as it is and re-distributing a modded version of it will result in you getting in serious legal trouble. That is a fact.

[Tarkiltunnel]

Just give it up.