Heart of the Machine

Heart of the Machine

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ABigSillay Jun 25, 2024 @ 1:02am
Alumina gathering?
Its saying I need a unit with 300 salvage ability, but none of my units that can salvage come close?
Originally posted by x-4000 (Chris McElligott-Park):
You should have regular sledges also available -- I don't think it's possible for you to have bulk sledges without regular ones. They unlock by the same exact tech.

What may be the case is that you've never built any regular sledges. If you go to any of your android chambers, just have one of them start building sledges instead of whatever they normally build. Or if you have fewer than six chambers, just build a new one and assign that.

In the unit types screen in the inventory, you should see all the types of units you have unlocked, and new as of last night you can also sort by things like Best Scavenger, etc.
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Strategic Sage Jun 25, 2024 @ 6:57am 
The Sledge can do it, you have access to the Sledge by the time you get to that point.
ABigSillay Jun 25, 2024 @ 8:57pm 
Originally posted by Strategic Sage:
The Sledge can do it, you have access to the Sledge by the time you get to that point.
I only have bulk sledge?
Khan Jun 25, 2024 @ 11:31pm 
You have the Bulk Sledge but not the basic Sledge? That seems unlikely unless you have encountered a bug, since the Bulk version of any android always unlocks from having the single version plus having Bulk Android Depots tech (if it exists; some android types have no bulk version).

Bulk squads cannot do anything other than move, fight and provide deterrence, at least for now, which makes some squad types like Bulk Technician and Bulk Sledge rather useless, at least in the current game version.
Last edited by Khan; Jun 26, 2024 @ 12:13am
ABigSillay Jun 26, 2024 @ 6:54am 
Originally posted by Khan:
You have the Bulk Sledge but not the basic Sledge? That seems unlikely unless you have encountered a bug, since the Bulk version of any android always unlocks from having the single version plus having Bulk Android Depots tech (if it exists; some android types have no bulk version).

Bulk squads cannot do anything other than move, fight and provide deterrence, at least for now, which makes some squad types like Bulk Technician and Bulk Sledge rather useless, at least in the current game version.

yeah its probable its a bug, thats a shame
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x-4000 (Chris McElligott-Park)  [developer] Jun 26, 2024 @ 8:28am 
You should have regular sledges also available -- I don't think it's possible for you to have bulk sledges without regular ones. They unlock by the same exact tech.

What may be the case is that you've never built any regular sledges. If you go to any of your android chambers, just have one of them start building sledges instead of whatever they normally build. Or if you have fewer than six chambers, just build a new one and assign that.

In the unit types screen in the inventory, you should see all the types of units you have unlocked, and new as of last night you can also sort by things like Best Scavenger, etc.
Mazian Jun 30, 2024 @ 10:14am 
What Chris said-- you can't unlock bulk sledge without unlocking the basic sledge-- but you can easily build bulk sledges without reassigning an android chamber to sledge production and then either scrapping (or losing) a droid and replacing it with a sledge.

I also ran into the situation where I built bulk sledges, thinking that I would be able to use them for extraction-- and then ended up with (imho) useless bulk sledges. I ended up scrapping them before I realized there was a "recall to warehouse" order that will unlock later in the demo.

But since resources are not finite, time is the more valuable resource. It seems to always come down to which is faster (more efficient)? Buy off the defective mark, take a few turns to steal android IDs, scrap and rebuild? This decision making process is echoed with airships, but with more complexity (because maybe the resource used to manufacture airships is in limited supply early on.)

The only thing I didn't particularly like was the forced brain extraction in the demo. I wanted an alternative that didn't treat humans like disposable resources to go with the RP that I was doing up to that point.
x-4000 (Chris McElligott-Park)  [developer] Jun 30, 2024 @ 1:16pm 
Originally posted by Mazian:
The only thing I didn't particularly like was the forced brain extraction in the demo. I wanted an alternative that didn't treat humans like disposable resources to go with the RP that I was doing up to that point.

Just bear in mind that the next mechanic after this is a giant thing that I didn't have ready for the demo yet. It's not a statement of wanting you to only have that option, but basically that's all that was ready.
Mazian Jun 30, 2024 @ 9:24pm 
Originally posted by x-4000 (Chris McElligott Park):
Originally posted by Mazian:
The only thing I didn't particularly like was the forced brain extraction in the demo. I wanted an alternative that didn't treat humans like disposable resources to go with the RP that I was doing up to that point.

Just bear in mind that the next mechanic after this is a giant thing that I didn't have ready for the demo yet. It's not a statement of wanting you to only have that option, but basically that's all that was ready.

Well that's cool. To be clear, I found the demo really enjoyable... and I meant the comment literally. That one thing was the only thing I didn't like. Everything else was pretty compelling and intricate. Honestly, I was a little surprised at how much I enjoyed the gameplay. It's not my normal kind of game but I was sucked in.
x-4000 (Chris McElligott-Park)  [developer] Jul 1, 2024 @ 7:46am 
That's wonderful to hear, thank you!

And yeah, no worries -- you won't be forced into doing something overly good or evil just to progress through the game. The "normal" way to get to intelligence class 3 has lots of room for good and evil in it, and is just a giant mechanic.

Anyway, thank you for the kind words!
GenSpaceCake Nov 12, 2024 @ 4:38am 
You need to assign "Wallripper" as an ability to Sledge. They come without this ability to begin with
Originally posted by x-4000 (Chris McElligott-Park):
That's wonderful to hear, thank you!

And yeah, no worries -- you won't be forced into doing something overly good or evil just to progress through the game. The "normal" way to get to intelligence class 3 has lots of room for good and evil in it, and is just a giant mechanic.

Anyway, thank you for the kind words!

In regards to Bulk Sledge and Salvaging, is this implemented yet and just don't know how to do it, or is this something coming later?
archmag Feb 1 @ 11:22pm 
Originally posted by markelphoenix:
In regards to Bulk Sledge and Salvaging, is this implemented yet and just don't know how to do it, or is this something coming later?
Only normal sledges can salvage. Bulk units are automated units which can only do things depending on their stance (you only control which stance they are in and their base location for that stance) and there is no stance for salvaging. You need normal sledge and it gets a Wallriper ability few turns later:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3419391540
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