PC shuts down , only when running this game.

[KarnalSoul]

PC turns off, not Blue screen, just shut down. This happens when it goes into the first drop loading above the first mission. Do i need a better PSU or Cooling system? I just installed the R 9 5950x (replaced a R 7 5800x). But it has ran very CPU intensive games like Distant Worlds 2 on MAX Galaxy. I have a 360mm liquid cooler coming.

Win 11 home
Ryzen 9 5950x
Viper steel 128GB DDR4 3600Mhz
MSI 850 watt PSU
MSI Ventus 3 3060Ti
MSI X570S Carbon max wifi.
ID Cool 280mm liquid cooler.

[Spatan555]

Escrito originalmente por KarnalSoul:

PC turns off, not Blue screen, just shut down. This happens when it goes into the first drop loading above the first mission. Do i need a better PSU or Cooling system? I just installed the R 9 5950x (replaced a R 7 5800x). But it has ran very CPU intensive games like Distant Worlds 2 on MAX Galaxy. I have a 360mm liquid cooler coming.

Win 11 home
Ryzen 9 5950x
Viper steel 128GB DDR4 3600Mhz
MSI 850 watt PSU
MSI Ventus 3 3060Ti
MSI X570S Carbon max wifi.
ID Cool 280mm liquid cooler.

I am sorry to burst your bubbles but MSI Gaming Laptops are one of the worst in the market. The thermal system is bad and one of the reasons why games don't perform well on that machine. You should get the Aus Tuff series, Asus Rog Strix or HP Omen.

[Rhophius]

agree with Spatan here, all MSI stuff is prone to overheating,

So some points on your setup

your CPU doesn't support windows 11 either, plus why are you using home when you have that much ram? get the pro edition and make sure its 64bit

The motherboard doesn't have win11 support either

After check those 2 items out i'm not even going to look any deeper into this, go check all your hardware compatibility and make sure everything works together correctly.

This is clearly not an issue with Mechwarrior 5 Clans

[Thundercracker]

also, watch out for that gimmicky liquid cooling. there should never be an actual application that suits it in home computing unless you're pushing parts /far/ past their tolerances.

or you're using a case that's too small and cant get proper airflow. seems like overkill to avoid replacing the case, which is much cheaper and risks your components less on malfunction.

looking at the liquid cooling setups on laptops these days, you could not pay me to use that as a cooling system. looking at the internals of the laptops, it seems they do it because yes, it'm impossible to get airflow in that form factor with the parts used. then again, a good portion of that seems to be the ductwork of the cooling system itself, sooo...

[KarnalSoul]

I am sorry to burst your bubbles but MSI Gaming Laptops are one of the worst in the market. The thermal system is bad and one of the reasons why games don't perform well on that machine. You should get the Aus Tuff series, Asus Rog Strix or HP Omen. [/quote]

BTW, it isnt a laptop

Some what new to building my own PCs. This version was using the cash i had on hand ( all about the $$). The Vid card ive had 0 issues with. But since i changed to a MSI MB and PSU..yeah wonky things. I dont like MBs that have the fan cooler ON the MB as well, they gum up no matter what filtration you use. Woul love a good Rogue Strix, i had a TUF B-550..the fan went out on it, hence me not liking them. So i gotta wait for santa claus before i can replace the MB and PSU. Thanks for that info. Lesson learned.

[KarnalSoul]

Escrito originalmente por Thundercracker:

also, watch out for that gimmicky liquid cooling. there should never be an actual application that suits it in home computing unless you're pushing parts /far/ past their tolerances.

or you're using a case that's too small and cant get proper airflow. seems like overkill to avoid replacing the case, which is much cheaper and risks your components less on malfunction.

looking at the liquid cooling setups on laptops these days, you could not pay me to use that as a cooling system. looking at the internals of the laptops, it seems they do it because yes, it'm impossible to get airflow in that form factor with the parts used. then again, a good portion of that seems to be the ductwork of the cooling system itself, sooo...

LMAO...i had a Ryzen 7 5800x in this PC before. With the best air cooler, it ran around 80-93c OPEN case. I had to go liquid, solved that issue. If it goes POOF well, it goes POOF lol. Ive poofed a few fan cooled PCs before. I have 0 really to do with laptops, dont need one, dont want one, i prefer to build PCs. Lernin as i go lol.

[KarnalSoul]

Escrito originalmente por Rhophius:

agree with Spatan here, all MSI stuff is prone to overheating,

So some points on your setup

your CPU doesn't support windows 11 either, plus why are you using home when you have that much ram? get the pro edition and make sure its 64bit

The motherboard doesn't have win11 support either

After check those 2 items out i'm not even going to look any deeper into this, go check all your hardware compatibility and make sure everything works together correctly.

This is clearly not an issue with Mechwarrior 5 Clans

Welp. it is the only game my PC does this with. So i have to disagree and say, that its tied to it. Im trying to find mother board on a redneck budget...so them $500+ ones arent quickly attained (couldnt find a decent one at high range either). So far only MSI offered anything i wanted with slots. Ive searched ASUS finding zip for x570. For my OS? i lost my copy of my last OS (10) that i didnt register, i needed a new one, so i got 11 so i wouldnt have to buy it...soon. ,.i.. MS, hate giving them money lol. But its what i got. Ill take your advice into budgetary account on the 11 pro as well. I jsut got this CPU and plan to use it. so no i need to go shopping....

[Arc]

Note that spontaneous shutdowns are always a sign of system malfunction. The game is but a load that's exposing this issue.
Usually means OVP or OCP kicking in so ensure your PSU is up to spec and check the cable connections are firm.

Also, populating all 4 memory channels is by default not recommended for non-JEDEC speeds and timings in DDR4 and up.

[Thundercracker]

Escrito originalmente por KarnalSoul:

LMAO...i had a Ryzen 7 5800x in this PC before. With the best air cooler, it ran around 80-93c OPEN case. I had to go liquid, solved that issue. If it goes POOF well, it goes POOF lol. Ive poofed a few fan cooled PCs before. I have 0 really to do with laptops, dont need one, dont want one, i prefer to build PCs. Lernin as i go lol.

for one, open case is worse because the case directs airflow.

for two, that sounds like you had really bad airflow. without looking, if i had to guess, i'd say too small of a case, with too weak of fans, not enough intakes, and cabling blocking the air's flow. and of course, being new to building, it's possible you've made a mistake like installing your exhaust fan backwards, so it's another intake.

it's not really any issue to me if you continue to use water cooling, i'm just trying to save you money. modern components normally dont get too much more hot than ~60C under normal loads, air cooled. if you're running hotter than that, there's an underlaying issue, and the liquid cooling is just covering it up.

[Spiderman4000]

Escrito originalmente por Rhophius:

agree with Spatan here, all MSI stuff is prone to overheating,

So some points on your setup

your CPU doesn't support windows 11 either, plus why are you using home when you have that much ram? get the pro edition and make sure its 64bit

The motherboard doesn't have win11 support either

After check those 2 items out i'm not even going to look any deeper into this, go check all your hardware compatibility and make sure everything works together correctly.

This is clearly not an issue with Mechwarrior 5 Clans

its not an over heating issue its a game issue some pcs do not sit well with some games. i had the same problem with dragon age veilguard. I did manage to stop the pc just crashing, so i downloaded new motherboard drivers, that solved it for a time but the pc still crashed. What fixed it was a new patch for the game. I would check for new drivers for the mother board and move it to a new SSD drive. Do a recheck of game files as that can cause a pc to crash. Some games overwhelm the gpu memory and it causes the game to not only lock up but the pc as well. So you could try to lower your gpu and system ram usage till they fix the game. By the way the game and most modern games hardly use a lot of cpu power, most cores are not used, even then only one core could be used about 30% of the time. That is why i have come to the conclusion the game is shooting through the gpu vram like no tomorrown and locking up your system.

[Thundercracker]

Escrito originalmente por Spiderman4000:

Escrito originalmente por Rhophius:

agree with Spatan here, all MSI stuff is prone to overheating,

So some points on your setup

your CPU doesn't support windows 11 either, plus why are you using home when you have that much ram? get the pro edition and make sure its 64bit

The motherboard doesn't have win11 support either

After check those 2 items out i'm not even going to look any deeper into this, go check all your hardware compatibility and make sure everything works together correctly.

This is clearly not an issue with Mechwarrior 5 Clans

its not an over heating issue its a game issue some pcs do not sit well with some games. i had the same problem with dragon age veilguard. I did manage to stop the pc just crashing, so i downloaded new motherboard drivers, that solved it for a time but the pc still crashed. What fixed it was a new patch for the game. I would check for new drivers for the mother board and move it to a new SSD drive. Do a recheck of game files as that can cause a pc to crash. Some games overwhelm the gpu memory and it causes the game to not only lock up but the pc as well. So you could try to lower your gpu and system ram usage till they fix the game. By the way the game and most modern games hardly use a lot of cpu power, most cores are not used, even then only one core could be used about 30% of the time. That is why i have come to the conclusion the game is shooting through the gpu vram like no tomorrown and locking up your system.

you didnt describe anythithing other than crashing due to playing underspec.

if you're running out of RAM/ vRAM, that's your sign.

however, what the OP described is not what you're talking about. you're talking system crashes, OP is talking about a hard shutdown. not the OS crashed and the computer reboots. the PC shuts down with no warning.

this is almost always a sign of severe overheating in my work diagnosing and repairing computers.