Wait... are Clans... is le Bad guys???

[Maniac]

"I didn't sign up for this!"

jfc the amount of tourists lmao

Maybe it's just me but how can you jump into fifth (okay not really, it's like what, tenth or so game in the mainline series?) game without even skimming through absolute basics of the setting

[FlyingTorcensoredWhale]

Originally posted by Maniac:

"I didn't sign up for this!"

jfc the amount of tourists lmao

Maybe it's just me but how can you jump into fifth (okay not really, it's like what, tenth or so game in the mainline series?) game without even skimming through absolute basics of the setting

Same way as I've picked up a CD Case of MW4: Mercenaries in 2002, not really knowing what BattleTech even is, but drawn into it by cool art and stompy robots on the cover, brother.

[WarDemon]

WHy are you complaining about tourists? That does not put a positive image on the community when you call new interested people in the franchise tourists.... its ok if they don't know the lore.. this game is great to learn about smoke jaguar.. specially for new people they get first person experience. Instead of name calling newer people who are interested about the MW franchise why not show them around? Food for thought, Be humble , be better.

[Crimzin]

Originally posted by FlyingTorcensoredWhale:

Originally posted by Maniac:

"I didn't sign up for this!"

jfc the amount of tourists lmao

Maybe it's just me but how can you jump into fifth (okay not really, it's like what, tenth or so game in the mainline series?) game without even skimming through absolute basics of the setting

Same way as I've picked up a CD Case of MW4: Mercenaries in 2002, not really knowing what BattleTech even is, but drawn into it by cool art and stompy robots on the cover, brother.

Exactly my man, the most important thing is keeping it alive, sure flexing about how much of a nerd you are and how much lore you know is cool, but whats important is sparking new peoples interest in the battletech universe.

It matters not how they find it, or how much they know, what matters is they try it and start getting into it, I mean you cant really hold it against people for being to young when it all started.

[Hykril Tynyx]

Originally posted by Maniac:

Maybe it's just me but how can you jump into fifth (okay not really, it's like what, tenth or so game in the mainline series?) game without even skimming through absolute basics of the setting

Have you ever heard of people who play Call of Duty?
The best similar examples of "why" are games like MGS5 and AC6 - their previous entires are either too old or console-bound. Anyway, most of the modern games from long-standing series tend to do some kind of a "soft reboot" to the franchise in order to attract more players without scaring them off with an old backlog of game lore baggages.

[FlyingTorcensoredWhale]

Originally posted by WarDemon:

WHy are you complaining about tourists? That does not put a positive image on the community when you call new interested people in the franchise tourists.... its ok if they don't know the lore.. this game is great to learn about smoke jaguar.. specially for new people they get first person experience. Instead of name calling newer people who are interested about the MW franchise why not show them around? Food for thought, Be humble , be better.

"Tourist" is a terrible way to describe the thing that people are complaining about. The lil' kid me was a BT Tourist, just visiting, without knowing what the whole thing was all about, but interested in mechs. Eventually, I fell in love with the franchise.

What people are complaining about shouldn't be called "Toursits". "Squatters" is the better way to describe them. They come in, complain about everything and demand that the setting should be changed to fit their whims, or they are not staying.

Tourist comes and leaves if Tourist doesn't find the setting interesting. And that's okay. Some of them will love it and will stay.

Squatters? Yeah, no.

But yeah, this guy is weird. Everyone has to start SOMEWHERE in the franchise. You don't come in loaded with knowledge and you have to start somewhere. This game is a pretty good on-boarding experience for CSJ and Clans.

[Last Seraph]

Honestly, the clans in general are kind of a lousy place to start with for the franchise since it depends on a lot of pre-existing knowledge to get the most out of it.

MW5: Mercs and Battletech 2018 are much better more modern games to start with, as they're both basically soft reboots.

Or just watch Tex Talks Battletech.

[Wrayday]

Why would you even bother getting upset? The only thing declaring someone the good guy just shows which flavor of bad guy you like.


So, pick your morality poison.

[KDM 16AAB]

Depends on your perspective and bias.

[Maniac]

Originally posted by Wrayday:

Why would you even bother getting upset? The only thing declaring someone the good guy just shows which flavor of bad guy you like.


So, pick your morality poison.

idk if I come out that way but I'm not upset, rather I am amused in amount of new players that came into established setting raw with no prep

not sure about how other do it but when I buy into new for me but otherwise well established ip I do some basic research first

[Chef0Death88]

Look dude, the average intelligence level of the steam forums is a known quantity. Single digit territory on average.
Lower your expectations. Then lower them significantly more,

I was shaking my head at exactly this before release. Belligerence and ignorance are common, sense is not.

[Chef0Death88]

Originally posted by Last Seraph:

Honestly, the clans in general are kind of a lousy place to start with for the franchise since it depends on a lot of pre-existing knowledge to get the most out of it.

MW5: Mercs and Battletech 2018 are much better more modern games to start with, as they're both basically soft reboots.

Or just watch Tex Talks Battletech.

umm the franchise basically DID start with the clans man, Mechwarrior 2 was all clan stuff.
Tabletop not included of course, so the majority of peoples first experiences with Battletech were either MW2, large number of Mechassault players (these dont count people, get over it) MW4 which was clan stuff again, or battletech pc/MW5.

There have been significantly MORE games featuring MadCats and Clan tech then there have been games with Centurions in the mech lineup.

[Shadow King]

Originally posted by Chef0Death88:

umm the franchise basically DID start with the clans man, Mechwarrior 2 was all clan stuff.
Tabletop not included of course, so the majority of peoples first experiences with Battletech were either MW2, large number of Mechassault players (these dont count people, get over it) MW4 which was clan stuff again, or battletech pc/MW5.

Image saying a franchise starts with 2. You can't have a 2 without a 1. And you don't even have MW1 without the CH1.
2 happened because 1 was popular enough to make a 2. To add to that, you had the MPBT EGA in between which was itself was fairly popular for what it was given the early age of the internet at the time and helped introduce a lot more people to the series, especially after it moved over to AOL from GEnie, even though it was a shell of itself at that point.
Nevermind the 3 console games at that time before 2 released.

[Chef0Death88]

Originally posted by Shadow King:

Originally posted by Chef0Death88:

umm the franchise basically DID start with the clans man, Mechwarrior 2 was all clan stuff.
Tabletop not included of course, so the majority of peoples first experiences with Battletech were either MW2, large number of Mechassault players (these dont count people, get over it) MW4 which was clan stuff again, or battletech pc/MW5.

Image saying a franchise starts with 2. You can't have a 2 without a 1. And you don't even have MW1 without the CH1.
2 happened because 1 was popular enough to make a 2. To add to that, you had the MPBT EGA in between which was itself was fairly popular for what it was given the early age of the internet at the time and helped introduce a lot more people to the series, especially after it moved over to AOL from GEnie, even though it was a shell of itself at that point.
Nevermind the 3 console games at that time before 2 released.

Most people started with 2, the format for future games started with 2. Mechwarrior 1 barely even has an relation to the future games dude. Crescent hawk inception and the others before MW1 were top down dos era games

[Chef0Death88]

Originally posted by Shadow King:

Originally posted by Chef0Death88:

umm the franchise basically DID start with the clans man, Mechwarrior 2 was all clan stuff.
Tabletop not included of course, so the majority of peoples first experiences with Battletech were either MW2, large number of Mechassault players (these dont count people, get over it) MW4 which was clan stuff again, or battletech pc/MW5.

Image saying a franchise starts with 2. You can't have a 2 without a 1. And you don't even have MW1 without the CH1.
2 happened because 1 was popular enough to make a 2. To add to that, you had the MPBT EGA in between which was itself was fairly popular for what it was given the early age of the internet at the time and helped introduce a lot more people to the series, especially after it moved over to AOL from GEnie, even though it was a shell of itself at that point.
Nevermind the 3 console games at that time before 2 released.

I was around for every battletech game so far dude, were you even born?

[Maniac]

Originally posted by Chef0Death88:

Originally posted by Shadow King:

Image saying a franchise starts with 2. You can't have a 2 without a 1. And you don't even have MW1 without the CH1.
2 happened because 1 was popular enough to make a 2. To add to that, you had the MPBT EGA in between which was itself was fairly popular for what it was given the early age of the internet at the time and helped introduce a lot more people to the series, especially after it moved over to AOL from GEnie, even though it was a shell of itself at that point.
Nevermind the 3 console games at that time before 2 released.

I was around for every battletech game so far dude, were you even born?

Only true BT fans still champion the Sega Genesis Battletech (sarcasm)

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't that the only official videogame where you actually play as a clanner for what, 25+ years before mw5 clans?