For people who doesn't understand why there is no sandbox or career mode in MW5: Clans

[StoneGolem]

First of all please read this short post completely in order to understand what I'm telling to you before replying it. (Edit: Some people thought I'm defending the current situation. I don't. I only explain what is happening right now to make it sense to you. As a MechWarrior fan, I also want MW5: Mercs to be imported Unreal Engine 5 and moreover Mercs and Clans to be merged so we could play campaigns, careers and sandbox versions with all the available mechs and infinite replayability. Everybody would love to have that)

As you understand from the games name, this is the 5th "main" game in the series. So it's not a new IP. There were many other MechWarrior games before. MechWarrior 2 and MechWarrior 4 games had a linear campaign. These games had names like "MechWarrior 4: Vengeance" very similar to this game which is names as "MechWarrior 5: Clans". These games doesn't have sandbox style gameplay because there is a dedicated game for that purpose. Read below.

After their release both games had "Mercenaries" standalone expansions named as MechWarrior 2: Mercenaries and MechWarrior 4: Mercenaries similar to the most recent MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries. These games were STANDALONE games. They were bought, installed and played as seperate games. So this is why MW5: Mercs and MW5: Clans are seperate games. These "Mercenaries" games focused on free choice of missions and financial mercenary company management.

For MW5, the only difference this time is: Mercenaries version released before the main linear version of the game. As soon as MW5: Mercs released, we older folks knew that there will be a standalone MW5 game with a proper and linear campaign in the future.

So, this is how it was way before the MW5. Campaign game and the Mercenaries games were split. This is why this game is not a DLC for the Mercs game. This is why there is no career mode. This is why there is no sandbox gameplay in Clans. And again I'm not defending the current situation. I won't. I also want to have infinite gameplay with career and sandbox mods.

Am I happy? No I'm not! I also wish MW5: Mercs were also integrated to this game and had better visuals and updated content with more mechs and environment. But it's not like that.

I hope everything makes sense now.

[Mikoto]

"First of all please read this short post completely in order to understand what I'm telling to you before replying it."

If you have to say that then you already admit you have no argument.

[Crimzin]

You know MW5 Mercs was a linear campaign before the first DLC right? it was the DLC that added Career mode and the open ended sandbox, Im hoping they do the same for Clans, As in I hope they port the IS mechs to playable in clans engine because to me once you play one clan you have played them all hehe.

I really don't want the same 16 mechs with different paint, I want IS mechs in UE5 engine.

[Z3ros3n]

I'd be happy with sandbox entry placed in clan invasion timeframe whet I can play my insert choosing which clan they originate from.

[Toaster]

Originally posted by Mikoto:

"First of all please read this short post completely in order to understand what I'm telling to you before replying it."

If you have to say that then you already admit you have no argument.

???

What a weird take. Why should people reply without reading or only partially reading what OP is trying to say? OP just explained how the game series works. Facts dont need argumentation.

Is it a good system? Thats debatable.

Originally posted by Crimzin:

You know MW5 Mercs was a linear campaign before the first DLC right? it was the DLC that added Career mode and the open ended sandbox, Im hoping they do the same for Clans, As in I hope they port the IS mechs to playable in clans engine because to me once you play one clan you have played them all hehe.

I really don't want the same 16 mechs with different paint, I want IS mechs in UE5 engine.

Werent the campaign missions linear but you could to do other missions on the side? I wasnt playing launch due EGS shenanigans they pulled. But by that logic MW4 Mercs was more linear than 5.

But I hope for something similar too.

[StoneGolem]

Originally posted by Crimzin:

You know MW5 Mercs was a linear campaign before the first DLC right? it was the DLC that added Career mode and the open ended sandbox, Im hoping they do the same for Clans, As in I hope they port the IS mechs to playable in clans engine because to me once you play one clan you have played them all hehe.

I really don't want the same 16 mechs with different paint, I want IS mechs in UE5 engine.

Linear campaign on Clans is not like something we had on MW5: Mercs campaign mode. If you play MW5: Clans, you will see the difference. Clans is like old story driven games where you can only select within a very limited number of side missions while Mercs campaign lets you freely play as much as you want on galaxy map.

[Mikoto]

Originally posted by Toaster:

Originally posted by Mikoto:

"First of all please read this short post completely in order to understand what I'm telling to you before replying it."

If you have to say that then you already admit you have no argument.

???

What a weird take. Why should people reply without reading or only partially reading what OP is trying to say? OP just explained how the game series works. Facts dont need argumentation.

Is it a good system? Thats debatable.

Simple. A good argument does not need someone to demand they read it first. It sets the entire tone of what comes next as "holier than thou" and completely invalidates everything said after it.

It is literally the biggest red flag you can put on a topic, calling anyone who reads it an idiot.

Also he does not even own the game. Which is chefs kiss on top of it all.

[StoneGolem]

Originally posted by Mikoto:

Originally posted by Toaster:

???

What a weird take. Why should people reply without reading or only partially reading what OP is trying to say? OP just explained how the game series works. Facts dont need argumentation.

Is it a good system? Thats debatable.

Simple. A good argument does not need someone to demand they read it first. It sets the entire tone of what comes next as "holier than thou" and completely invalidates everything said after it.

It is literally the biggest red flag you can put on a topic, calling anyone who reads it an idiot.

Then please apply your good argument on a different topic.

[StoneGolem]

Originally posted by Mikoto:

Also he does not even own the game. Which is chefs kiss on top of it all.

https://ibb.co/VMGV395

I'm 47 years old and I really get sick and tired of people like you. Please go and share your knowledge on other peoples topics

[Halfalfasleep]

Originally posted by Mikoto:

A good argument does not need someone to demand they read it first.

That's literally how arguments work, you write them and then people read them.

Originally posted by Mikoto:

It is literally the biggest red flag you can put on a topic, calling anyone who reads it an idiot.

He didn't call anyone an idiot.

Originally posted by Mikoto:

Also he does not even own the game. Which is chefs kiss on top of it all.

You don't need to own MW5 Clans to know the naming convention of a series of games that's three decades old.

[hydlided]

Out of curiosity, is there a reason you didn't mention Mechwarrior 3? Because from I can tell is that MW3 would kind of break the logic of this post.

Not trying to offend here, just saying ;)

[Crazy Angel]

your point is completely invalid because it comes with a graphical and engine upgrade
so now you finish the new game and if you want to play a sandbox variant of it you have to downgrade to an older version which is silly

[Nats]

Hmm yeah I am disappointed with this. I might try it on Gamepass as I get it on there for free but I doubt I will even both to download it at 60Gb. I played the first game a bit but it didnt grab me.

[skigress]

MechWarrior 3 had Pirate's moon which was an aborted fully fledged game due to the studio being gutted by Microsoft as the franchise was bought by Microsoft and they proceeded to do what they did at that time and shuffle the team off to other projects thinking they were done with the game.

[hydlided]

Originally posted by skigress:

MechWarrior 3 had Pirate's moon which was an aborted fully fledged game due to the studio being gutted by Microsoft as the franchise was bought by Microsoft and they proceeded to do what they did at that time and shuffle the team off to other projects thinking they were done with the game.

But MW3 didn't come with a career mode. Hence my point ;)

[Vash]

Yup, which is why I'll probably skip this, watch the story on YT and wait for the next Mercs game.