MechWarrior 5: Clans

MechWarrior 5: Clans

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Ragnar Losbroek 2024 年 10 月 14 日 上午 10:12
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Man that Launch trailer sure has a lot of Girl Bosses...
How woke is this going to be? I smell a DEI consultancy :/
引用自 KiTA:
Woke is a spectrum. Not every game with a girlboss or non-European character is woke. Samus, Sarah Connor, and Ripley were awesome. (Of course, they're not what you're talking about when you say Girlboss, and we both know it, but, yeah.)

You're not wrong to be concerned, especially with the state of the Battletech IP nowadays, but I haven't seen anything that really makes the skin crawl. We're not seeing random clanners announce their pronouns before addressing the player or anything, for example.

The only thing that makes me hesitate is no Career-like Mode or Mod Support at launch, but I can wait for the inevitable update or DLC for that.
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Blood of Kerensky 2024 年 10 月 15 日 上午 12:24 
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引用自 Toaster
Obviously there are a lot of side characters there. But women in leading or fighting roles in the setting is normal. The trueborn warriors are lab grown genetically engineered people and the Clans choose to grow both men and women. But, theres plenty of freeborn female warriors in both IS and Clan side. Always has been.
Let us not fool ourselves that we can educate these people on the realities of the franchise. They do not want to know. They only want to rile up people and want us to know that they hate everyone who is not a cishet white male.
最后由 Blood of Kerensky 编辑于; 2024 年 10 月 15 日 上午 12:24
Toaster 2024 年 10 月 15 日 上午 12:31 
引用自 Blood of Kerensky
引用自 Toaster
Obviously there are a lot of side characters there. But women in leading or fighting roles in the setting is normal. The trueborn warriors are lab grown genetically engineered people and the Clans choose to grow both men and women. But, theres plenty of freeborn female warriors in both IS and Clan side. Always has been.
Let us not fool ourselves that we can educate these people on the realities of the franchise. They do not want to know. They only want to rile up people and want us to know that they hate everyone who is not a cishet white male.

Yeah I guess you're right. But I usually take the bait just to educate anyone thats not a lost cause reading it.
最后由 Toaster 编辑于; 2024 年 10 月 15 日 上午 12:31
Bumble 2024 年 10 月 15 日 上午 12:46 
引用自 WarStalkeR
引用自 Toaster
Those DEI boogiemen have a really long reach if they can change things 30 years ago. Which is when most those characters were created.

Not everything is DEI. Battletech has always had a diverse set of characters. No "consultancy" needed.
How about listing all the characters from the trailer and who they are in original Battletech universe? If you say that they were 30 years ago, you should know who they are exactly.

This game looks to be VERY accurate to lore from what we've seen so far, something that should be celebrated with the amount of shenanigans being pulled by some groups these days

This video from a lorehead goes through the full trailer, picking up pretty much all details that he can, and he goes through each character pulled from lore for you to have a look at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5w9o94UdEk&list=WL&index=281&ab_channel=SvenvanderPlank
ֆʏɦռֆɛɛʀ 2024 年 10 月 15 日 上午 1:04 
I just woke up, wassup? Are we pandering for divisiveness again? Anyone know what "woke" actually means besides what I just did after sleeping? Never mind. I'm going back to bed.
Toaster 2024 年 10 月 15 日 上午 1:08 
引用自 Bumble
引用自 WarStalkeR
How about listing all the characters from the trailer and who they are in original Battletech universe? If you say that they were 30 years ago, you should know who they are exactly.

This game looks to be VERY accurate to lore from what we've seen so far, something that should be celebrated with the amount of shenanigans being pulled by some groups these days

This video from a lorehead goes through the full trailer, picking up pretty much all details that he can, and he goes through each character pulled from lore for you to have a look at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5w9o94UdEk&list=WL&index=281&ab_channel=SvenvanderPlank

I was sure someone got all the main characters there. Thanks for the link. I knew the character he recognized as Emilie Wimmer was someone more important than a side character but couldnt name her myself.
Enderoth 2024 年 10 月 15 日 上午 1:14 
Does this mean I'll be able to enjoy the game without chuds jumping into multiplayer? Legit
milfkultra 2024 年 10 月 15 日 上午 1:24 
Jesus get a life you gamergate baby
^7ppp^5a^6u^5l^5i^6e 2024 年 10 月 15 日 上午 1:31 
引用自 ghostbuster6969
I really do wish people would stop using video games as a proxy to fight there culture wars. the cries of "woke" in every game is just getting sad. they have become the new age SJW.

Maybe then you should direct your wish towards these companies that force this ♥♥♥♥ on us with their DEI Departments/Hires that take over the entire Triple A industry!?
Blood of Kerensky 2024 年 10 月 15 日 上午 1:31 
引用自 ^3pppaulie
引用自 ghostbuster6969
I really do wish people would stop using video games as a proxy to fight there culture wars. the cries of "woke" in every game is just getting sad. they have become the new age SJW.

Maybe then you should direct your wish towards these companies that force this ♥♥♥♥ on us with their DEI Departments/Hires that take over the entire Triple A industry!?
Look, another tourist!
Sigvuld 2024 年 10 月 15 日 上午 2:40 
Dude saw women and immediately blacked out, wild
WHITEWOLF660 2024 年 10 月 15 日 上午 3:45 
Sorry to burst your bubble. The Clans are as wide in race as the USA. In this case it is lore accurate. I understand the concern of the weirdos obsessed with PPs Bobs and The Vegens as well as the racists who obsess with inclusion and skin color using this lore to scoot in 4th wall breaking stuff. Listen to me man, Go President Trump and JD Vance 2024, and this game does NOT look woke from what I can see. I know these racist perverts have pissed all of us off for a long time. Do not let their perversion of the world destroy your perspective of it too. That is part of the mind virus weapon. I am very excited for this game and I am not worried. You have FULL BRAGGING RIGHTS if I am wrong. My word as a TrueBorn Clan Wolf Star Commander. I risk a lot to say this so please take me serious, I am very excited for this game :) :murica::murica::murica::towelie:
^7ppp^5a^6u^5l^5i^6e 2024 年 10 月 15 日 上午 4:01 
引用自 Blood of Kerensky
引用自 ^3pppaulie

Maybe then you should direct your wish towards these companies that force this ♥♥♥♥ on us with their DEI Departments/Hires that take over the entire Triple A industry!?
Look, another tourist!

I only had to scroll up for one second to see what special kind of jester you are, lmao

"They only want to rile up people and want us to know that they hate everyone who is not a cishet white male."

It's crazy how obvious it is that if you people aren't proactively derailing any discussion about this stuff with the wildest strawman nonsense, you literally have nothing to say except cutting remarks and vague claims of "hate" you can't even define. Peak clownery.
Blood of Kerensky 2024 年 10 月 15 日 上午 4:04 
引用自 ^3pppaulie
引用自 Blood of Kerensky
Look, another tourist!

I only had to scroll up for one second to see what special kind of jester you are, lmao

"They only want to rile up people and want us to know that they hate everyone who is not a cishet white male."

It's crazy how obvious it is that if you people aren't proactively derailing any discussion about this stuff with the wildest strawman nonsense, you literally have nothing to say except cutting remarks and vague claims of "hate" you can't even define. Peak clownery.
Thank you for the Steam points, tourist.
Ragnar Losbroek 2024 年 10 月 15 日 上午 4:19 
引用自 Sigvuld
Dude saw women and immediately blacked out, wild
Nope, I saw ugly, large chinned woman with hair shaved on one side screaming orders, and yelling the good ol' "right side of history".

You know the staple of modern audience writing and female design.
最后由 Ragnar Losbroek 编辑于; 2024 年 10 月 15 日 上午 4:21
Camasi 2024 年 10 月 15 日 上午 4:25 
引用自 Toaster
引用自 WarStalkeR
How about listing all the characters from the trailer and who they are in original Battletech universe? If you say that they were 30 years ago, you should know who they are exactly.

oH yOu kNow BaTtlEtECH? nAmE EveRy ChArActEr.

The most important ones in the trailer:

The ilKhan, aka supreme leader of the Clans (the black man with face tattoos): https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Leo_Showers

The saKhan of Clan Smoke Jaguar, aka the second in command of said clan (the black woman): https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Sarah_Weaver

One of the most famous characters in the setting (the older woman, confirmed by PGI Daeron in NGNGtv stream): https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Natasha_Kerensky

Obviously there are a lot of side characters there. But women in leading or fighting roles in the setting is normal. The trueborn warriors are lab grown genetically engineered people and the Clans choose to grow both men and women. But, theres plenty of freeborn female warriors in both IS and Clan side. Always has been.


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The Commander of 362nd Assault Cluster, a Star Colonel of CJS (woman with side-cut red hair) https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Emilie_Wimmer (from the video link posted below)



Got em!

Finding out about Elizabeth or Malvina Hazen may break their brain.


Battletech is full of diverse characters and no one is really seen as the good guy/gal or bad. Everyone's equally awful to one another lol
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