What a joke.

[C.Martin]

To say I'm disappointed Is an understatement honestly this feels like some sort of cheap trick to get the game hype this delay for exterior work how about you released the game that's in a working state and we know it worked instead of dangling it in front of our face like a carrot at the Kentucky derby and ripping it away from us because you feel the planes need to look better

Note: I'm disappointed because I didn't get to play the original as I was too young and at the moment I don't have enough space for a joystick...

[Reaper1]

Should have bought the original on Steam. I'm sure just because the outer skins weren't looking good is not the reason the game is delayed. I'm disappointed the release is delayed, but what can you do. I watched a short video on YouTube and saw something that wasn't right, and If it was my product I would have delayed it to.

[C.Martin]

Taffs videos made it look fine yea a couple of reletively easy things to fix... notice where I said the original game isn't an option for me

[Buzzzz]

Originally posted by C.Martin:

To say I'm disappointed Is an understatement honestly this feels like some sort of cheap trick to get the game hype this delay for exterior work how about you released the game that's in a working state and we know it worked instead of dangling it in front of our face like a carrot at the Kentucky derby and ripping it away from us because you feel the planes need to look better

Note: I'm disappointed because I didn't get to play the original as I was too young and at the moment I don't have enough space for a joystick...

It was done to generate more hype, more interest and a larger amount of first day sales with the people that are foaming at the mouth to get their hands on the product immediately. Nobody waits until the last hours to make a decision to extend the release date. The decision to do this was planned and made weeks if not months ago. Typical marketing BS to increase day one sales.

If you want to help stop the trend of publishers and developers using the free advertising on Steam to hype up poor products for large revenue gains, then simply stop buying the products on release day and wait to read reviews.

[C.Martin]

Originally posted by Buzz313TH:

Originally posted by C.Martin:

To say I'm disappointed Is an understatement honestly this feels like some sort of cheap trick to get the game hype this delay for exterior work how about you released the game that's in a working state and we know it worked instead of dangling it in front of our face like a carrot at the Kentucky derby and ripping it away from us because you feel the planes need to look better

Note: I'm disappointed because I didn't get to play the original as I was too young and at the moment I don't have enough space for a joystick...

It was done to generate more hype, more interest and a larger amount of first day sales with the people that are foaming at the mouth to get their hands on the product immediately. Nobody waits until the last hours to make a decision to extend the release date. The decision to do this was planned and made weeks if not months ago. Typical marketing BS to increase day one sales.

If you want to help stop the trend of publishers and developers using the free advertising on Steam to hype up poor products for large revenue gains, then simply stop buying the products on release day and wait to read reviews.

Something i already do.. I have to work today and wasn't gonna even consider it until after just annoyed at the hype stunt

[FirestormMk3]

There seems to be a serious misunderstanding here: the game wasn't delayed because they wanted to have the new exteriors first. They said that is one of the most desired feedback they've gotten, and it will be something that happens during the early access period. We can't be sure why specifically the delay happened, but I'd wager it has to do with some gameplay bug issues. For instance, the tail gun gun sight is displayed wrong, which would cause the player to miss. You can learn about more of them from codes that went out some content creators like Taff in Exile. They want the game at least fully playable as soon as it launches. This wouldn't even be a good way to drum up hype.

All that said, I think it's reasonable and even good practice to wait for reviews for games. By all means do that, but just because a game was delayed because of some issues with it doesn't mean it was some plot to taunt you. They let us know the price, the fact a bundle will exist so previous owners of the original game will get a discount, and that as soon as it's in a state they can get it out to us they will. Heck, for all we know they had issues getting the bundle set up (they made reference to issues with it appearing) and didn't want day one purchasers to feel cheated when a bundle appeared shortly after.

In any case, definitely not subbing to this thread, but relax, play something else. At least metaphorically touch grass. This isn't a big deal.

[seanquigley4547]

If anyone has been reading the threads or on the Discord you will see the arrogance of the company Dev team......talking about potential buyers having "Entitlement issues." Proof if any was needed that the Company may be doing good hard work trying to breath new life into old games, but its not a real company to be taken seriously. Just a labor of love by folks who sadly have no concept of how you go about running a successful company. Considering the new B-17 offer from IL-2 as well as the Progress on the Lancaster project for DCS as well as any B-17 stuff they will roll out I am waiting for that and no longer going to support any games from this company.

[Silent War]

This is not an uncommon problem with smaller devs and Steam. Better to get it right than deliver a game that has a hiccup on delivery with comments of "How could you have released it with this problem". Steam is littered with disappointing games out of the gate. Don't add to that tally. I have plenty of games to play in the interim so no worries, take the time needed to get it right. There is still time to deliver the game today if possible. Go play a game that you haven't played in some time. Break the "shiny" and the "cult of the new" mentality. I am sure the vast majority here have something in their Steam Library the deserves to be played again.

[sonarman]

Is a ‘labor of love’ a bad thing? it means they are not solely doing things out of a profit motive which to me is a much better thing, as for not being successful etc really?…. Almost everything they have released so far has been Mostly Positive & Positive.

It might take a bit longer to get the games we want as they are mostly small teams but they will be invested with a passion and commitment and level of detail which will more than make up for the big budgets that Ubi etc throw at their games .

[Redmarkus4]

1. I don't mind waiting until the devs are happy with their product.
2. Wanting better quality skins and 3D world in a Redux version of a game is not entitlement - it's simply what one would expect a 'Redux' version to deliver.

[groosz]

Microprose to partacze i oszuści. Ostatnią fajną grę zrobili w 1993 roku! Teraz tylko odgrzewają kotlety!

[wingchaps]

Good grief, folks!

The game wasn't where they wanted it to be on release, they're just holding it until it is!

You want them to release a buggy game? Then the whining would be off the charts!

I like knowing when a product is supposed to be released, but the correct answer is "It'll be released when it's ready". Otherwise, go buy a Bethesda game. "It just works!"

[Buzzzz]

Originally posted by wingchaps:

Good grief, folks!

The game wasn't where they wanted it to be on release, they're just holding it until it is!

You want them to release a buggy game? Then the whining would be off the charts!

I like knowing when a product is supposed to be released, but the correct answer is "It'll be released when it's ready". Otherwise, go buy a Bethesda game. "It just works!"

Do you think they just realized last night that their game wasn't where they wanted it to be? Why wait until the very last moment to delay?

[Majickthyse]

Originally posted by wingchaps:

I like knowing when a product is supposed to be released, but the correct answer is "It'll be released when it's ready". Otherwise, go buy a Bethesda game. "It just works!"

Are you saying '9 am on 23 Jan 2023' was the incorrect answer perchance?

[wingchaps]

Originally posted by Majickthyse:

Originally posted by wingchaps:

I like knowing when a product is supposed to be released, but the correct answer is "It'll be released when it's ready". Otherwise, go buy a Bethesda game. "It just works!"

Are you saying '9 am on 23 Jan 2023' was the incorrect answer perchance?

I think I'm saying that this delay is no big deal, and the whining over it is disappointing. They set a goal, probably shouldn't have been so specific, they couldn't make the goal with the quality they wanted. They punted until they could get the quality up. No big deal. Life goes on.

[Buzzzz]

Originally posted by wingchaps:

Originally posted by Majickthyse:

Are you saying '9 am on 23 Jan 2023' was the incorrect answer perchance?

I think I'm saying that this delay is no big deal, and the whining over it is disappointing. They set a goal, probably shouldn't have been so specific, they couldn't make the goal with the quality they wanted. They punted until they could get the quality up. No big deal. Life goes on.

They waited until 2am on the release day to announce the delay. Don't you think they knew days, if not weeks earlier that it was not ready?

How many people do you think, woke up this morning super excited to play The Mighty 8th Redux, then when they found out that it was being delayed, they said "F" it, and decided they were going to buy Bomber 3 while they wait for The Mighty 8th Redux?