Dual Universe

Dual Universe

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Haiiroookami Aug 21, 2022 @ 5:37pm
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scam????????
I think I remember hearing this game might of been a scam or in dev hell can I get some more info
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Zarcata Aug 21, 2022 @ 11:52pm 
What exactly do they want to read?
Install the game (beta) and try out the current state of the game for yourself. Ask here or in the forum to get a summer DAC, with which you can play 30 days for free.
gerald2 Aug 22, 2022 @ 1:08am 
Originally posted by Blackcatgamer:
I think I remember hearing this game might of been a scam or in dev hell can I get some more info
I think i remember some ppl wrote somewhere so earth is flat....
Game is active and playeble from i dunno 4 years ?beta is working from 2 years ?
You can enter game even today so why you wont check if "its scam" for yourself .
Last edited by gerald2; Aug 22, 2022 @ 3:05am
Balmung Aug 22, 2022 @ 12:22pm 
A MMO is not created in 2 years, it take many years to create one, especially Sandbox MMOs. So development hell is definitely wrong her.

And it is playable since a long time for many players. You can not play scam. But that "scam" crap is misused very often, also on Star Citizen, for example. And often only from players without any patience or understanding for game development.

So you shouldn't believe all, what you here from random guys.
Last edited by Balmung; Aug 22, 2022 @ 12:23pm
BiGEdge Aug 22, 2022 @ 1:03pm 
You help paying the servers with a monthly sub...
Dual Universe is now for 8 years in development and ready for Release.
since 6 years in Alpha and 2 years in Beta.
Its not perfect, but EVE online were also not perfect at its release in 2003
But DU has all the neccessarry tools for the players to create anything.
The Players shape the universe however they want and create activitys with Voxeltools, Logic Elements and Lua/CSS/Html programming.
A playerdriven economy is fulfilling the sandbox dream with all players from all around the world in just one single gameworld.
Get a free trial or a summer DAC from players or just try it for 10 bucks for one month.
And see for yourself that it is honestly not a scam.

Just DU it
Mordgier Aug 23, 2022 @ 6:04am 
This game is in development hell, the original 'founder'/creative designer/ceo got ousted and a new ceo was assigned by the investors - his focus was to get the game out and get cash flowing again.

The game is not done.

Vast majority of promised features were cut.

What is being released is simply an attempt to recoup the investment.

These are hard facts.
Balmung Aug 23, 2022 @ 8:57am 
Originally posted by Mordgier:
This game is in development hell, the original 'founder'/creative designer/ceo got ousted and a new ceo was assigned by the investors - his focus was to get the game out and get cash flowing again.

The game is not done.

Vast majority of promised features were cut.

What is being released is simply an attempt to recoup the investment.

These are hard facts.
Source please.
Raaban Aug 23, 2022 @ 9:09am 
Originally posted by Mordgier:
This game is in development hell, the original 'founder'/creative designer/ceo got ousted and a new ceo was assigned by the investors - his focus was to get the game out and get cash flowing again.

The game is not done.

Vast majority of promised features were cut.

What is being released is simply an attempt to recoup the investment.

These are hard facts.

Sadly yes. PVP is a mess in this game, not enjoyable at all, lagg is very bad if there are more players and ships. the lod is nonexistent and stuff pops up. and not to mention the 1998 graphics and no physics, No AI and coding only works when you are online.

DU 2016 vs 2022 [i.imgur.com]
Mordgier Aug 23, 2022 @ 9:57am 
Originally posted by Balmung:
Originally posted by Mordgier:
This game is in development hell, the original 'founder'/creative designer/ceo got ousted and a new ceo was assigned by the investors - his focus was to get the game out and get cash flowing again.

The game is not done.

Vast majority of promised features were cut.

What is being released is simply an attempt to recoup the investment.

These are hard facts.
Source please.

https://massivelyop.com/2021/04/06/dual-universe-sees-a-leadership-switch-with-a-new-novaquark-president/


There is the official PR statement.


As far as what is missing from the game, feel free to look up the original kickstarer goals, the road maps and what is actually being released.

Folks who were in DU remember this - https://dualuniverse.featureupvote.com/ and how much actually made it in - and how much got shoved down our throats.
Mordgier Aug 23, 2022 @ 10:12am 
Originally posted by Raaban:
Originally posted by Mordgier:
This game is in development hell, the original 'founder'/creative designer/ceo got ousted and a new ceo was assigned by the investors - his focus was to get the game out and get cash flowing again.

The game is not done.

Vast majority of promised features were cut.

What is being released is simply an attempt to recoup the investment.

These are hard facts.

Sadly yes. PVP is a mess in this game, not enjoyable at all, lagg is very bad if there are more players and ships. the lod is nonexistent and stuff pops up. and not to mention the 1998 graphics and no physics, No AI and coding only works when you are online.

DU 2016 vs 2022 [i.imgur.com]


Remember the new solar system they promised: https://www.reddit.com/r/DualUniverse/comments/jq96a0/pictures_of_the_new_planets_coming_with_the_next/

The game trailer is still full of things that are still nothing more than JC's wishful thinking that he could become the real life James Halliday...you can't do many of the implied thing at all....
Raaban Aug 23, 2022 @ 10:12am 
Are people seriously thinking this is release ready ? Stuff look like this..

https://i.imgur.com/DAFa0b4.jpg

Its a joke. They could atleast make the gems blend in a little more. Looks really out of place.
Balmung Aug 23, 2022 @ 10:28am 
Originally posted by Mordgier:
Originally posted by Balmung:
Source please.

https://massivelyop.com/2021/04/06/dual-universe-sees-a-leadership-switch-with-a-new-novaquark-president/
Thanks, I'm not sure if I heard that before or not. I played DU in the first 3 months of the beta and stopped because it was more a alpha, because a beta is much more feature complete. From time to time I look at their discord to see of the voxel tool is in the game, not much more.

As far as what is missing from the game, feel free to look up the original kickstarer goals, the road maps and what is actually being released.

Folks who were in DU remember this - https://dualuniverse.featureupvote.com/ and how much actually made it in - and how much got shoved down our throats.
I do not really know what really is in the game and what not, but I remember that list well, yeah. But from that what other wrote it sounds not so good yet.

The question now is: will it be better after full release? I don't know how good the base actually is and how much can get fixed after release with updates. A MMO need at least a solid base on release, if the base is bad, the MMO never will be good, because after release you can not change much on the base anymore.
Mordgier Aug 23, 2022 @ 10:44am 
Originally posted by Balmung:

The question now is: will it be better after full release? I don't know how good the base actually is and how much can get fixed after release with updates. A MMO need at least a solid base on release, if the base is bad, the MMO never will be good, because after release you can not change much on the base anymore.

If by some miracle enough money is injected into the game to start actually growing NQ instead of shrinking it (their headcount is down 25% over the past 2 years) - it's possible that the game will actually see real gameplay loops added beyond "Haul this crap" and "Fly 4 hours in space to mine" and "Camp for hours in a PvP area hoping to see someone."

I have 4 DU accounts - so yeah I'm $200 into the game and sure I'd actually LOVE to be wrong and actually see it not shut down - but I've been around long enough to know better.

This is going to go the way of Starbase and Worlds Adrift - there is just no game here and no money to make a the game.

Starbase and Worlds Adrift both failed and both actually had more gameplay more potential than DU does. I see no path to recovery for DU. So I firmly believe that this release is nothing more than an attempt to recoup some money by shoving what they have out the door.
Last edited by Mordgier; Aug 23, 2022 @ 10:44am
Balmung Aug 23, 2022 @ 10:55am 
Originally posted by Mordgier:
Starbase and Worlds Adrift both failed and both actually had more gameplay more potential than DU does. I see no path to recovery for DU. So I firmly believe that this release is nothing more than an attempt to recoup some money by shoving what they have out the door.
Yeah, it sounds like you could be totally right here.

There are two words that I hate to read/hear in one sentence... "MMO" and "potential". I played many MMOs in the last 20+ years and all showed a huge amount of never used wasted potential... And especially on Sandbox MMOs it really hurts.
Last edited by Balmung; Aug 23, 2022 @ 10:55am
Game is unique and it's not ready for release, but at this point it will never be ready for release. It's one those Sandbox games that have to make it from now on or not make it at all. They can't stay in Alpha/Beta any longer.
Balmung Aug 23, 2022 @ 10:58am 
Originally posted by Stone Legion:
Game is unique and it's not ready for release, but at this point it will never be ready for release. It's one those Sandbox games that have to make it from now on or not make it at all. They can't stay in Alpha/Beta any longer.
Sure, but the question is how the plans after release really look like. Do they really spend money into it to make it better and larger or is it only planned to do as much they need to so they can get enough money back for the investors but DU never will get much better. If the last one than DU already failed.

I remember good when they announced DU first at Kickstarter, they planned to have millions of players in that world, but actually it looks like they could be happy if they have 10.000-100.000 players.
Last edited by Balmung; Aug 23, 2022 @ 11:00am
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