Chess puzzle

[Westera]

So for the chess puzzle I think I managed to find mate but nothing happened.

Then on another playthrough I made another move that clearly wasn't mate and then I beat the puzzle.

What am I missing here?

[Wales Interactive CM]

Hey there! Thank you for your question! There is only one solution to the chess puzzle, so if you beat it the second time, that was the winning move. :) Hope this helps!

[Westera]

Originally posted by Wales Interactive CM:

Hey there! Thank you for your question! There is only one solution to the chess puzzle, so if you beat it the second time, that was the winning move. :) Hope this helps!

No it doesn't. The move that gives the achievement was moving the Queen diagonally to the left so that it is right next to the king. But this check has the Queen taken by the black Knight. So if you need to mate black that is the wrong move. To mate black you need to move the Queen three squares to the left. So please confirm if I'm supposed to find mate or not

[Westera]

Any input?

[lys_xen]

I was able to get the achievement by moving the castle/rook. This causes the chess champ to lose

[Westera]

Originally posted by lys_xen:

I was able to get the achievement by moving the castle/rook. This causes the chess champ to lose

Then it makes even less sense as that is NOT what gave it to me

[Example]

I got the achievement by making the diagonal queen move. I agree that it's clearly wrong though, black can take with knight and it's not checkmate. Queen across three is mate, but that didn't unlock it for me.

[Sponzie]

Actually, isn't it the point that it ISN'T checkmate? The achievement name is "check but no mate" and the character in question says (s)he wasn't beaten by the game but by the alcohol.. seems OK to me, but does make it harder / ambiguous which move would be correct.

[Westera]

Originally posted by Sponzie:

Actually, isn't it the point that it ISN'T checkmate? The achievement name is "check but no mate" and the character in question says (s)he wasn't beaten by the game but by the alcohol.. seems OK to me, but does make it harder / ambiguous which move would be correct.

I read the achievement as simply a pun. Since they are not your mate if you win.
Also in the "story timeline thing" It just says: You beat them/You didn't beat them. I don't know about you but if I make a move that puts them in check mate I expect to unlock the story path that says "you won" right?

[Westera]

Or if you are not supposed to win at least add some kind of lead as to which of all the non check mate moves would be correct. Else it is literally a pick all paths and pray. That is not hard or ambiguous that is bad design

[Sponzie]

> which of all the non check mate moves

at least only those that are still check (but no mate). Not sure how many of those there were, perhaps it was only the diagonal queen move, but I don't think so.

> if I make a move that puts them in check mate I expect to unlock the story path that says "you won" right?

Yeah that makes sense, if you read it as winning the game of chess.

> I read the achievement as simply a pun.

Yeah that's how I read it at first too, until I noticed that the checkmate move doesn't give you this achievement. Then I thought maybe you're *supposed* to make check but not checkmate, and I got the ach that way, so it made sense to me.

[Westera]

Originally posted by Sponzie:

> which of all the non check mate moves

at least only those that are still check (but no mate). Not sure how many of those there were, perhaps it was only the diagonal queen move, but I don't think so.

> if I make a move that puts them in check mate I expect to unlock the story path that says "you won" right?

Yeah that makes sense, if you read it as winning the game of chess.

> I read the achievement as simply a pun.

Yeah that's how I read it at first too, until I noticed that the checkmate move doesn't give you this achievement. Then I thought maybe you're *supposed* to make check but not checkmate, and I got the ach that way, so it made sense to me.

> at least only those that are still check (but no mate). Not sure how many of those there were, perhaps it was only the diagonal queen move, but I don't think so.

No all the moves are checks

> Yeah that makes sense, if you read it as winning the game of chess.

So since the two paths say "You beat the chess player" "You didn't beat the chess player" and the move where you 100% beat the chess player leads to the "You didn't beat the chess player" I think this is absolutely a miss on the devs part. (If the achievement is related to something else, sure go for it. But in this case even the story paths makes 0 sense)

[The Rickest Rick]

Originally posted by Westera:

Originally posted by Sponzie:

> which of all the non check mate moves

at least only those that are still check (but no mate). Not sure how many of those there were, perhaps it was only the diagonal queen move, but I don't think so.

> if I make a move that puts them in check mate I expect to unlock the story path that says "you won" right?

Yeah that makes sense, if you read it as winning the game of chess.

> I read the achievement as simply a pun.

Yeah that's how I read it at first too, until I noticed that the checkmate move doesn't give you this achievement. Then I thought maybe you're *supposed* to make check but not checkmate, and I got the ach that way, so it made sense to me.

> at least only those that are still check (but no mate). Not sure how many of those there were, perhaps it was only the diagonal queen move, but I don't think so.

No all the moves are checks

> Yeah that makes sense, if you read it as winning the game of chess.

So since the two paths say "You beat the chess player" "You didn't beat the chess player" and the move where you 100% beat the chess player leads to the "You didn't beat the chess player" I think this is absolutely a miss on the devs part. (If the achievement is related to something else, sure go for it. But in this case even the story paths makes 0 sense)

Perhaps the rules to chess are different in Wales...