Why are you all so mad?

[T.Tv/SladeGx]

A bunch of games start as Early Access turn out to be good, why you guys are so mad about this?
Palworld and Baldurs Gate 3, this two big games was/are in Early Access.
I don't see why give this much hate on them.
I believe this could shape up to be very good.
I've seen many people saying the first one was a copy/past on much things, maybe they can do different putting as Early Access?

[hedgehawk]

i personally have nothing against early access in many genres, e.g. survival or rouge like etc. but i also find early access a bit inappropriate for story games. i immerse myself much deeper in story games and usually play them in one go. it's just a bit annoying if you have to wait for conent again and again. but for those who generally like to be there from the beginning, it can still be worth it. but i understand why people reject early access in this case. but still no reason to get upset about it or anything.

[T.Tv/SladeGx]

Originally posted by hedgehawk:

i personally have nothing against early access in many genres, e.g. survival or rouge like etc. but i also find early access a bit inappropriate for story games. i immerse myself much deeper in story games and usually play them in one go. it's just a bit annoying if you have to wait for conent again and again. but for those who generally like to be there from the beginning, it can still be worth it. but i understand why people reject early access in this case. but still no reason to get upset about it or anything.

Well its an RPG, with choises (i believe) so multiple runs would be a thing.
I can't see anything bad on this side.

[Athaz]

I loved the first game. Very excited for the sequel!

And I also remember how there were some angry people complaining about BG3 EA back in the day but it all turned out well in the end

[goldendon]

I either misse the early acces announcement or forgot about it but I kinda hate early acces RPG games you play them just to hit the in progress all and after X amount of time you can progress that is if you remembered where you where at that point.

But a game being early acces can also be a blessing if they interpret the community feedback well and not just the feedback of a loudest.

I personally won't buy it yet for my own pleasure I wanna play the whole story in a reasonable time frame but I will place this game in my library if there is either a sale or It will be close to release and the reviews are still good(excluding review bombs for some dumb reason)

[hedgehawk]

a few of my friends were not in the mood for the first act of bg3 at release because they had already played it a few times before. many games are played only once despite having replay value. many are not even finished. but everyone can do as they please. i prefer to wait until the game is complete to enjoy it without spoilers and gaps in the story.

[Dusk Of Sanity]

It's not going to be like BG3
Larian had a great base on which they could build a fantastic game. That allowed them to attract a lot of ppl to their EA and to generate a lot money for a prolonged development.
This game has much more limitations including "corridor" locations, worse voice acting and animation at the start + much less ppl will be interested in putting money in such a niche game this early.
Unfortunately, from the videos I saw it doesn't look like a hit and EA is making it worse

[T.Tv/SladeGx]

Originally posted by Dusk Of Sanity:

It's not going to be like BG3
Larian had a great base on which they could build a fantastic game. That allowed them to attract a lot of ppl to their EA and to generate a lot money for a prolonged development.
This game has much more limitations including "corridor" locations, worse voice acting and animation at the start + much less ppl will be interested in putting money in such a niche game this early.
Unfortunately, from the videos I saw it doesn't look like a hit and EA is making it worse

You are just throwing assumptions, BG3 had a larger studio, this don't make like spider will not fully deliver us a full game, they already say they will deliver a full game.

[Dusk Of Sanity]

Originally posted by T.Tv/SladeGx:

Originally posted by Dusk Of Sanity:

It's not going to be like BG3
Larian had a great base on which they could build a fantastic game. That allowed them to attract a lot of ppl to their EA and to generate a lot money for a prolonged development.
This game has much more limitations including "corridor" locations, worse voice acting and animation at the start + much less ppl will be interested in putting money in such a niche game this early.
Unfortunately, from the videos I saw it doesn't look like a hit and EA is making it worse

You are just throwing assumptions, BG3 had a larger studio, this don't make like spider will not fully deliver us a full game, they already say they will deliver a full game.

Full game doesn't mean it's going to be good
You assume it's going to be finished and Ea is going to be worth it for players
I don't agree with that
And you were 1st to compare it to BG3

[T.Tv/SladeGx]

Originally posted by Dusk Of Sanity:

Originally posted by T.Tv/SladeGx:

You are just throwing assumptions, BG3 had a larger studio, this don't make like spider will not fully deliver us a full game, they already say they will deliver a full game.

Full game doesn't mean it's going to be good
You assume it's going to be finished and Ea is going to be worth it for players
I don't agree with that
And you were 1st to compare it to BG3

Well i compare about Early Access, not the studios.

And Spiders already say they will deliever a full game, the game is 30% at this point, so if 30% = 12-15 hours you can expect around 50-60 hours for a full experience.

The game will be huge, if they hear us out this can be a very good game.

[Dusk Of Sanity]

Originally posted by T.Tv/SladeGx:

Originally posted by Dusk Of Sanity:

Full game doesn't mean it's going to be good
You assume it's going to be finished and Ea is going to be worth it for players
I don't agree with that
And you were 1st to compare it to BG3

Well i compare about Early Access, not the studios.

And Spiders already say they will deliever a full game, the game is 30% at this point, so if 30% = 12-15 hours you can expect around 50-60 hours for a full experience.

The game will be huge, if they hear us out this can be a very good game.

1st game wasn't huge, and no "corridor " game is going to be huge in this day and age. It's way to limited to be a hit and what I saw is already mediocre at best.
Compering EA while saying look at BG3 and than saying not to compare studios is wrong
If you look at how Ea is mostly end up, you will see that a game with such limitations and small studio and budget that didnt captivate ppl with their first look at Ea is not going to be a hit. At best it will be a decent niche game , but it's a long road even to get to this point.
Way to many chances to flop and for that reason paying until realise it's closer to blind hope.

[T.Tv/SladeGx]

Originally posted by Dusk Of Sanity:

Originally posted by T.Tv/SladeGx:

Well i compare about Early Access, not the studios.

And Spiders already say they will deliever a full game, the game is 30% at this point, so if 30% = 12-15 hours you can expect around 50-60 hours for a full experience.

The game will be huge, if they hear us out this can be a very good game.

1st game wasn't huge, and no "corridor " game is going to be huge in this day and age. It's way to limited to be a hit and what I saw is already mediocre at best.
Compering EA while saying look at BG3 and than saying not to compare studios is wrong
If you look at how Ea is mostly end up, you will see that a game with such limitations and small studio and budget that didnt captivate ppl with their first look at Ea is not going to be a hit. At best it will be a decent niche game , but it's a long road even to get to this point.
Way to many chances to flop and for that reason paying until realise it's closer to blind hope.

The devs already say they have the budget to deliver the full game.

[Dusk Of Sanity]

Originally posted by T.Tv/SladeGx:

Originally posted by Dusk Of Sanity:

1st game wasn't huge, and no "corridor " game is going to be huge in this day and age. It's way to limited to be a hit and what I saw is already mediocre at best.
Compering EA while saying look at BG3 and than saying not to compare studios is wrong
If you look at how Ea is mostly end up, you will see that a game with such limitations and small studio and budget that didnt captivate ppl with their first look at Ea is not going to be a hit. At best it will be a decent niche game , but it's a long road even to get to this point.
Way to many chances to flop and for that reason paying until realise it's closer to blind hope.

The devs already say they have the budget to deliver the full game.

Should have finished it without Ea
If they need testers and feedback, than make demo of the 30% that is ready for free and let ppl share all the feedback.
EA for 40-50 euro this early with "enough funds to finish the game" is scammy. That is what pushes ppl aways , answering you question "why so mad?"

[T.Tv/SladeGx]

Originally posted by Dusk Of Sanity:

Originally posted by T.Tv/SladeGx:

The devs already say they have the budget to deliver the full game.

Should have finished it without Ea
If they need testers and feedback, than make demo of the 30% that is ready for free and let ppl share all the feedback.
EA for 40-50 euro this early with "enough funds to finish the game" is scammy. That is what pushes ppl aways , answering you question "why so mad?"

Well they made a question, asking the community if they should or not be on Early Access and people voted on Early Access.

That simple.

I don't get why you think they will scam on anything.

[Dusk Of Sanity]

Originally posted by T.Tv/SladeGx:

Originally posted by Dusk Of Sanity:

Should have finished it without Ea
If they need testers and feedback, than make demo of the 30% that is ready for free and let ppl share all the feedback.
EA for 40-50 euro this early with "enough funds to finish the game" is scammy. That is what pushes ppl aways , answering you question "why so mad?"

Well they made a question, asking the community if they should or not be on Early Access and people voted on Early Access.

That simple.

I don't get why you think they will scam on anything.

40 - 50 euro for a pretty bad (mid at best) Ea this early with a claim of having money to finish it , that's why
I mentioned above the other ways of doing more favorable ea for customers
The whole Ea is mostly a scam bc you pay to test a game and provide feedback, there are QA engineers for that
Anyway, doesn't look good right now and they need to change a lot of things to even get close
Not looking to change your mind, just reminding others that Ea is 99% of the time is not for customer's benefit and this is not BG3 to even consider a risk

[Purpleetea]

Maybe some developers needs some help sometimes with financial boost for the game to be finished and fully developed. Also you get the game cheaper. Im suprised how many gamers willing to not see that which is so weird.