New Requirements for the S+ Rank?

[Berimbauzero]

I Just finished my run on the Hard Mode and got A Rank.
Didn't use any Bonus Items, Used 11 Heals, 79 Kills, All Secrets Found and 23 Saves.
When I beated the game before the update there weren't Save Counts, does it counts for the rank, and the kills too??

I am aiming to play again in the Normal difficulty and using just the Crowbar, heal as few as possible and try not to kill so many enemies... I just wanna get the S+ Rank dude.

Anyone who can share any tips or info, I'd be very grateful.

(Lil Edit:) I just found out when I use the Crow Hat, which you get after beating the Hard Mode my handgun turns into a Crossbow with infinite ammo... Does it count to the rank? If it does not, there's no reason to use the Crowbar, I guess.

[Makina Icyterror]

I don't know about S+ but this is S Clear on Hard https://ibb.co/sqqWbL0

Heal 7 Kill 78 Secret15/15 Save1 BonusItemUse 0
I actually got A when I has less kill count. So more kill is better not less.
Not sure about minimum save. (Need more testing)
Weapon that come with Costume like the crossbow also count as a Bonus Item so don't even use em.

No new unlockable as far I'm aware. It's just cool flex image at the end.

[Makina Icyterror]

On the run with cheese weapon, I killed 118 enemies in total. Kinda doubt that I miss anyway. Last boss kill only give you +1. Not sure about the other 4. Enemies that die from trap also count toward the kill. Be it beartrap or electric shock (underground zone). It doesn't matter.

[Berimbauzero]

Okay, I beated the game again really fast this time on Normal Mode, used the only the Crow Hat and got S+, now I have all the 3 bonus items yay. Seems the Rank Requirements for the Hard Mode broads more things than Normal. I may play again on Hard, but maybe I gonna get some break for the moment, I don't know if you get somethings else doing S+ on Hard. whelps, that it. Thanks!

[Makina Icyterror]

S+ is 5 Heal and 3 Save at minimum
https://x.com/SFBTom/status/1794476443994353664

[Vacenti]

Just finished my S+ Hard mode.

Minimum is 5 heals i think. (i only used 3 though) Also you can spam the healing spring water for the mushroom eating secret, which doesn't count towards the healing limit. I just backtracked 2-3 times so I didn't waste any healing when doing the last secret. Be sure to grab the pistol upgrade on the last mushroom and then walk back to spring while injured/poisoned. (You wont be locked out of the pistol upgrade). So you can essentially get hit 1-2 times through your run and be fine.

Overall, i got all 15 secrets with 3 heals by the end game spring method.

The point of no return is the long ass ladder just past the spring.

I think 3 saves is the limit from what I've read around, but i just avoided saving to be safe.

No bonus items or weapons.

I tried to kill as much as I could. Ended up saving grenades/shotguns for lumbers/spindles/grinners and used my pistol for environmental kills as much as possible. Avoid fighting bosses if you can, all those resources for +1 kill ain't worth it. Also try to prioritize the main travelling rooms to kill, so you can transverse way easier, mainly the final courtyard with the animatronic crow and the area where you find the first injured NPC, which will make it easier to back track from healing spring -> mushroom king

IMO the areas i always got hit in were the witch garden because they can hit through walls and the damn torture chamber. Strongly suggest getting the shotgun before getting the trident. Otherwise, you can avoid getting hit by running around or resetting the room.

[Makina Icyterror]

Done with S+ too. I only used 4 Heal for the mushroom room. I got around 80+ kill on my end.

You don't really need to save the injured dude for S+. If you leave him him there, enemies won't spawn till so you get a bit free roam early.

Healing spring doesn't count toward the heal count but you will lock yourself out of pistol upgrade.

Can confirm that 3 saves are fine.

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Tips
Try to get thing done the first time you visit Restaurant & Swan Boat since enemy will only spawn on your 2nd visit. Have the trident & egg ready before you go there.

Skip south west lift after you get the battery since the room will be filled up with mobs & spike. Try north west lift instead.

[Berimbauzero]

Makina Icyterror, did you get anything special by getting S+ Rank?

[JCFrito]

I got S+ on hard with 5 heals, 3 saves, 97 kills, 15 secrets and 0 bonus item uses. There are no special rewards.

Edit: you get a different ending screen picture depending on your rank

[Makina Icyterror]

Originally posted by Berimbauzero:

Makina Icyterror, did you get anything special by getting S+ Rank?

No it just 1 flex image at the end. You unlock crow (head) costume with crossbow (weapon) by just beating the hard mode at any rank.

[DEVIL]

I think you can skip the Poisoned Mushroom secret as long as you only heal 3 times. And yes, antidote counts as a healing.
I finished the game with 5 heals (got poisoned..), no saves, in 40 minutes and 14/15 secrets so I only got an S
Healing 3 times and getting 14/15 secrets should net the S+

[Makina Icyterror]

Antidote & Small med kit count as 1 heal. Big med kit count as 2 heal. Healing Spring is free to use.

Healing minimum is 5 heals since there the other guy with S+ with 5 heals 15/15 secret.
3 Save minimum is confirmed by the dev himself. (Both posts are on twitter)

[DEVIL]

Originally posted by Makina Icyterror:

Antidote & Small med kit count as 1 heal. Big med kit count as 2 heal. Healing Spring is free to use.

Healing minimum is 5 heals since there the other guy with S+ with 5 heals 15/15 secret.
3 Save minimum is confirmed by the dev himself. (Both posts are on twitter)

Correct, but if you skip the mushroom secret you can still get S+ by using less healing items. I think it has to be 2 or 3 maximum.
Point being is that it is a tradeoff - 2-3 Heals and 14/15 secrets, or 5 heals and 15/15 secrets

Skipping the mushroom secret is a good way to save time and healing uses

[Fracture94]

Anyone knows if there are time requirements involved in the final ranking? I guess not, since your playthrough time doesn't even appear in the final rank screen, but just in case before i try my S+ run...

[JCFrito]

Originally posted by Fracture94:

Anyone knows if there are time requirements involved in the final ranking? I guess not, since your playthrough time doesn't even appear in the final rank screen, but just in case before i try my S+ run...

There seem to be none