Buyer Beware: Read THIS Before Purchasing (And keep to the top!)

[SwoleBenji]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcBuK6RVCF8

This "game" is basically just a tech demo. It's not even in an alpha or an "early access" state at all, let alone a state that should be monetized.

The building mechanics are... okay at best. Compared to other games? Awful.

PvE is impossible. A naked armorless mob with a stick will kill you in full chain mail and iron weapons with food buffs active.

This is NOT a solo friendly MMO at all. You can't technically "Solo" anything!

The refine times are INSANELY LONG. Even if you make a crap-ton o refining stations to cut down the time, you can only keep so many going as you're forced to gather more resources.

This is doubled by the fact that you can fail crafts, which DESTROY resources, which is REQUIRED to level your crafting to craft better stuff. I shouldn't have to craft HUNDREDS of boots to have a 5% chance to craft a glove item, only to have to craft HUNDREDS of gloves to craft a boot with +1 defense that translates to 0.3 damage reduction, which DOESN'T MATTER ANYWAY because mobs hit for 60 damage and you aren't really getting over 200 hp with food buffs.

The fact that the game has imbalance issues like FOOD that TAKES 20 MINUTES TO CRAFT AND HOURS TO "tech up" to, are WEAKER and WORSE than a handful of berries you can find on the ground...

Buildings don't serve a purpose, at all. They're for aesthetics only, as bases aren't raidable. Is this a "cozy" game? Animal Crossing kidddos aren't gonna pay a huge up front cost and a monthly sub to maintain their castles.

No proximity voice chat. It's 2024, umm... hello? Even text chat is hella inactive cause everyone uses discord or already has a group of friends they play with. This is more a generational problem but the game has no incentive to socialize anyway.

The payment model is far too expensive for anyone that doesn't live in a 1st world country working a middle upper class job. Sorry but that's the truth.

The fact this company either had "baby sized creators" shill the game or mega-titan "the usual corporate grunts" really speaks out about the state of their game. If they really were proud of what they made and knew it'd sell, they'd have actual MMORPG youtubers such as myself or of similar size cover the game. You know, ACTUAL non corportatized youtubers?

The game has memory leaks and is unoptimized. It's an Unreal game after all.
"b-b-but they'll fix it!" Nah, they probably won't. Has anyone ever? Tell me a game that got optimized in the future. I'll wait. I can't think of any.

The combat is akin to INDIE SLOP that someone made over a weekend for a "game jam" or some other amateur project. Sure the combat "isn't final" but why are they charging us $100 for something that's basically a placeholder? LOL much?

What're you supposed to do in this game when you have plenty of gear sets, a clan of die-hard pvp bros, and a mega-castle everyone can see? What... keep paying the monthly fee so you don't lose it? Nah. That's extortion. Very predatory.

[Stinboi]

not excatly news, and i hope those who consider to buy it can decide for them self if this is a game for them :)

[SwoleBenji]

Originally posted by Stinboi:

not excatly news, and i hope those who consider to buy it can decide for them self if this is a game for them :)

It is literally news for anyone that didn't get to play the streamer-reach around circlejerk.

[Bromi]

thank you for your summary and heads-up :)

[Tico]

Thank you, i will back in a few months to check again!

[Balmung]

A lot of text for saying a lot of BS.

And congratulations, it's nice that you have finally realized that this is a massively MULTIPLAYER online RPG and not a solo online RPG that is made to be played for months and not only some days/weeks for solo players.

But what you still haven't understood is that this MMO is very much in development and that includes balancing everything properly, even for the things that aren't in the game yet.

I had no memory leaks in Alpha 2, played it for 8+ hours without crashing and surprise, that can happen when you develop a game. A memory leak is nothing more than a bug.

And sorry, nobody has to listen to the opinions of MMO Youtubers who take themselves too seriously and think they know what they're talking about, even though they're not even the target audience.

Being an MMO fan doesn't mean that you suddenly belong to the target group of all MMOs. Something that many MMO fans have never realized and as soon as they are not part of the target group, the MMO is bashed from them.

[Phobos]

Originally posted by Balmung:

A lot of text for saying a lot of BS.

And congratulations, it's nice that you have finally realized that this is a massively MULTIPLAYER online RPG and not a solo online RPG that is made to be played for months and not only some days/weeks for solo players.

But what you still haven't understood is that this MMO is very much in development and that includes balancing everything properly, even for the things that aren't in the game yet.

I had no memory leaks in Alpha 2, played it for 8+ hours without crashing and surprise, that can happen when you develop a game. A memory leak is nothing more than a bug.

And sorry, nobody has to listen to the opinions of MMO Youtubers who take themselves too seriously and think they know what they're talking about, even though they're not even the target audience.

Being an MMO fan doesn't mean that you suddenly belong to the target group of all MMOs. Something that many MMO fans have never realized and as soon as they are not part of the target group, the MMO is bashed from them.

Best not to have memory leaks irl

[Robbenklopper™]

Do you really know what you are talking about ?
Go back to mommy and play Barbie but stop posting useless stuff.

[SwoleBenji]

Originally posted by Balmung:

A lot of text for saying a lot of BS.

And congratulations, it's nice that you have finally realized that this is a massively MULTIPLAYER online RPG and not a solo online RPG that is made to be played for months and not only some days/weeks for solo players.

But what you still haven't understood is that this MMO is very much in development and that includes balancing everything properly, even for the things that aren't in the game yet.

I had no memory leaks in Alpha 2, played it for 8+ hours without crashing and surprise, that can happen when you develop a game. A memory leak is nothing more than a bug.

And sorry, nobody has to listen to the opinions of MMO Youtubers who take themselves too seriously and think they know what they're talking about, even though they're not even the target audience.

Being an MMO fan doesn't mean that you suddenly belong to the target group of all MMOs. Something that many MMO fans have never realized and as soon as they are not part of the target group, the MMO is bashed from them.

None of it is BS. Stop simping. Proof it's bs? Let's hear it. Let's debate about it.

If a game forces you to party up, it's bad game design. It's fine if groups and guilds get the better loot, the easier experience, the more XP, etc. That's fair and fine. What's NOT okay is locking out PvE entirely. As a solo you cannot PvE at all. The most basic of humanoid mobs will destroy you in a 1v1 regardless of your gear. They're designed to fizzle you with magic if you try to fight them using clever game mechanics like a height advantage vs a melee target too. It's by design and I don't like it. Also fun fact: The majority of MMO players are solo these days. That's just how it is. If you want to make a niche game for 8% of the player base, go for it. Us solo guildless players won't be the target audience, and that's fine, but we'll still be rightuflly salty about being discluded from the game.

You probably had memory leaks and didn't notice them. or you weren't around areas with lots of players or massive construction projects.

Nobody "has" to listen to anything, but they "should" listen to these opinions especially since I'm not a paid corporate shill like "Annie" or any of those baby channels moonlighting as actual youtubers. (Who are probably on the Pax Dei payroll let's be honest every game has 'em.)

Who is the target audience in your opinion? Cozy gamers?

This MMO has crafting, full loot pvp, open world, base building. All of which I'm the head honcho in the niche.

[SwoleBenji]

Originally posted by Robbenklopper™:

Do you really know what you are talking about ?
Go back to mommy and play Barbie but stop posting useless stuff.

Debate me on it. What is useless and how is it useless?

You seem to be a Lost Ark enjoyer. How can you stand to play such a game riddled with bots with a company that did absolutely nothing to stop them?

[Robbenklopper™]

Yes i like Lost Ark.
Do i need Bots? No
Do i like em? No
Can i do something about them ? No, so not my job.

Let us just start here:
If a game forces you to party up, it's bad game design.

Its an M M O
Ever heard of that?
Google it, and learn something about game mechanics and designs, BEFORE you post stupid things.

[Robbenklopper™]

Same to you, i said lets start here.
Get some grip Fanboi.

[SwoleBenji]

Originally posted by Robbenklopper™:

Yes i like Lost Ark.
Do i need Bots? No
Do i like em? No
Can i do something about them ? No, so not my job.

Let us just start here:
If a game forces you to party up, it's bad game design.

Its an M M O
Ever heard of that?
Google it, and learn something about game mechanics and designs, BEFORE you post stupid things.

Sorry you like to slobber on guild toes and get used as a cog in a wheel for someone elses vritual greed gainz.

Maybe grow a back bone and stand up for yourself. Not everyone gets to have friends, cohorts, or comrades. Not everyone meshes well with others.

Yes, it's an MMO, meaning I get to play against other players. I don't expect to be able to solo a dragon or take on an entire base by myself, but I do expect to be able to kill a basic, humanoid mob that has NO ARMOR who is only using a stick as a weapon when I am full clad in chain mail armor that I spent all day tech'ing up to with iron weapons.

What MMO in the history of MMO's has you grind for 8 hours only to lose in a 1v1 against the starter basic mob?

[Robbenklopper™]

Oh man, i cant facepalm as hard as i want to.

If you would ever first read what devs post, what they are on to and what they ALLREADY know, but that needs at least two more brincells then a worm has.

Combat System is still in development, they know it, they talked about it multiple times and they will work on it in EA.
Thats what an EA is actually for.
Based on your posting, i dont expect you to seen any EAs before, dont you?
Shame, but its ok.

Just make a clickbait video with no point in it.

[SwoleBenji]

Originally posted by Robbenklopper™:

Oh man, i cant facepalm as hard as i want to.

If you would ever first read what devs post, what they are on to and what they ALLREADY know, but that needs at least two more brincells then a worm has.

Combat System is still in development, they know it, they talked about it multiple times and they will work on it in EA.
Thats what an EA is actually for.
Based on your posting, i dont expect you to seen any EAs before, dont you?
Shame, but its ok.

Just make a clickbait video with no point in it.

Or they take your money and never fix it? Hence the "Buyer beware" post.

Also you seem to misunderstand what "early access" is, so I'll help you out:

Player Expectations -

Alpha Testing (Free/NDA) - Core systems are not complete, test what is done so we can tweak things mid-dev.. also we want feedback on how we could dev things

Beta Testing (closed)(Free/loose NDA) - Core systems are mostly in place but we need to find bugs.. so many bugs.. also we want feedback on how we decided to dev things.

Beta Testing (open)(Free/Pre-order/no NDA) - Network stress test, random bugs we missed, system dev is mostly done for launch.

Early Access (Paid/Pre-Ordered) - We don't have all the stuff we wanted for launch fully done like some end-game content or stretch system goals (new systems that aren't core AND/OR vertical dev of existing systems).. The game is mostly nearly all playable but we need a cash infusion to hit all those last launch check boxes.

Launch - Last bits were polished up, here's the official, now we start working on updates/expansions/next title.


Sorry but combat being a placeholder is unacceptable.

[Balmung]

I didn't want to write here anymore, but one thing: Early Access is not a "game state" like alpha/beta. Early Access means exactly what it says. Space Engineers for example was at the EA start nothing more as a simple prototype of a game, 90+% of the game was not their. And there are a lot of other games that was released in very different state of their development on Steam as EA. Don't confuse EA with that "play earlier" crap AAA publisher does this days.