Do you find This new Pax Dei Land Plot Pricing Idea acceptable?

[Dekawar]

When you Buy the game you get and keep the Land plots you paid for.
any extra Plots you wish to buy will be sold at a price and have a subscription Upkeep charge. (your Paying Rent on the Land.) (this keeps the game server up and running and the game content keeps getting made.)

[Jumunji]

Originally posted by michellembrodeur:

Originally posted by Jumunji:

if they got rid of the stupid base price and made it free to play with a sub for plots i wouldnt care at all ..that is a good pricing model but charging 65 110 and $160 AUD for packages and then expect people to pay a premium sub aswell yea thats a joke and greedy

How do you expect the funds to keep rolling in to pay for BW, salaries, and all other upkeep if you get to pay once and play for ever?

i guess you cant read i said make it free with plots stuck behind a subscription never said pay once dont put words in my mouth and go read

[Maria]

Originally posted by Jumunji:

Originally posted by michellembrodeur:

How do you expect the funds to keep rolling in to pay for BW, salaries, and all other upkeep if you get to pay once and play for ever?

i guess you cant read i said make it free with plots stuck behind a subscription never said pay once dont put words in my mouth and go read

Considering those who already paid for 4 plots, would be better to keep it as it is. If you bought game before 1.0 then you keep the plots you paid for. If you buy the game after 1.0, then you keep the plots you bought.

No subs and a cash shop instead. Even if its cosmetic and quality of life stuff, should still make enough profit. Don't see how anything could even be pay to win in a game that's mostly PVE. Calling something p2w even in a pvp game, became redundant the moment RMT was created. Unless an item can only be purchased for RL money, can't be traded and is more powerful than non premium item, then its not p2w. Since someone can always RMT for it instead.

With a decay timer, the plot itself would disappear. Items remaining for a couple of days, but if the player who became inactive comes back, can always place other plots down.

It's funny though how so many think they will start paying subs in a years time, while saying how undeveloped the game is. Even if there was a big team of devs working for a giant gaming company, they would struggle to have it ready in a year for full release. So subs for me are a distant future, if they even happen.

[Yami]

Originally posted by tinsmith33:

Many games have a sub and also rent for plots of land .
But if i purchase basic or master package i expect to have what i pay for in the end and not have to buy the 3 remaining plots if i have master package again .

Ultima Online , Archage , Wurm , Isteria gifted of the fallen , these are games that when your sub ends is free for all looting after awhile .

This game is not P2W .
Also this is alpha pay to test with barely anything for content wise according to devs remarks .

There is still so much to add that they barely scratched the surface .
I will give them a year and see what happens many other games to play .

you dont have to buy them again you sub at what ever tier you want. the intial game price with the plots you can consider that your sub for the year and game purchase

[jcodbf2]

Originally posted by Caduryn:

Originally posted by Dreaming Prince:

yeah i been wondering how they plan to solve this. they said they will most likely go with a subscription pr plot. if the guild makes a huge castle or something, will a part of their castle just dissapear when someone quits and the sub runs out?
i guess they will have to hurry and find a new member or sub more plots?

When a Plot got removed nothing on it will dissapear.... so the Clan will simply have to drop a new Plot over it.

That is assuming there are any available to replace them. Like I said do they expect someone in the clan to pay for more plots to keep them before they decay? Take a new recruits plots? Just dumb.

It really has no sensible way of solving it without the end result of someone else spending more money.

[Maria]

Originally posted by jcodbf2:

Originally posted by Caduryn:

When a Plot got removed nothing on it will dissapear.... so the Clan will simply have to drop a new Plot over it.

That is assuming there are any available to replace them. Like I said do they expect someone in the clan to pay for more plots to keep them before they decay? Take a new recruits plots? Just dumb.

It really has no sensible way of solving it without the end result of someone else spending more money.

Would be working as intented. Clan should be limited to the plots the active players bought, not building on inactives plots. This would improve server performance and make it fair to other players who did not recruit quitting players just to have more plots.

A soft wipe would also fix this problem if the dev's not ready for decay timer yet. Characters keep their skills, but all buildings and plots removed. But ideally this should only happen when server stability becomes an issue from an update. Would not make sense to soft wipe, just for the sake of it, if it has to happen with a future update anyway.

[nosavynada]

Originally posted by Jumunji:

Originally posted by Dekawar:

When you Buy the game you get and keep the Land plots you paid for.
any extra Plots you wish to buy will be sold at a price and have a subscription Upkeep charge. (your Paying Rent on the Land.) (this keeps the game server up and running and the game content keeps getting made.)

i don't find any of the pricing acceptable $70 AUD for base game thats AAA price for an empty world with a subscription coming they killed their game before it started with the greedy pricing

you get to play that "empty game" for approximately a year. Plots are not pay to win. Now if you are using them for gimmicks like slapping down a plot to keep others from gathering then removing to re-spawn the resources then yes the extra unused plot allows you an advantage. I do think perhaps a compromise of 1 plot is free might be better but things are not set yet its presumed to be a year before it comes into play so they have time to figure out if a better model will work. As for value - either you are playing for a year on that price or you are complaining about something not set and not out for a year.

[Silky Bazaar]

Sub needs to stay and multi boxing should be a banable offense as well. the last thing this game needs is GW2 style zerging. The less buy to play PvP elitists the game attracts the more chance it has of being great

[Yami]

Originally posted by jcodbf2:

Originally posted by Caduryn:

When a Plot got removed nothing on it will dissapear.... so the Clan will simply have to drop a new Plot over it.

That is assuming there are any available to replace them. Like I said do they expect someone in the clan to pay for more plots to keep them before they decay? Take a new recruits plots? Just dumb.

It really has no sensible way of solving it without the end result of someone else spending more money.

if your ina clan and your really dont need all your plots esspiccly if most stuff is already built

[Yami]

Originally posted by Mariella:

Originally posted by jcodbf2:

That is assuming there are any available to replace them. Like I said do they expect someone in the clan to pay for more plots to keep them before they decay? Take a new recruits plots? Just dumb.

It really has no sensible way of solving it without the end result of someone else spending more money.

Would be working as intented. Clan should be limited to the plots the active players bought, not building on inactives plots. This would improve server performance and make it fair to other players who did not recruit quitting players just to have more plots.

A soft wipe would also fix this problem if the dev's not ready for decay timer yet. Characters keep their skills, but all buildings and plots removed. But ideally this should only happen when server stability becomes an issue from an update. Would not make sense to soft wipe, just for the sake of it, if it has to happen with a future update anyway.

i really think they have to wipe for economy to be able to test the economy

[HypeR]

no it should be equal with everyone if its 3 everyone should have 3 plots

[Maria]

Originally posted by Silky Bazaar:

Sub needs to stay and multi boxing should be a banable offense as well. the last thing this game needs is GW2 style zerging. The less buy to play PvP elitists the game attracts the more chance it has of being great

Banning multiboxing would never happen. Some players live with others, who may want to play the game. Don't know if blocking those using geforce is possible, but if a player physically uses another pc to log in two accounts at once, it's impossible to say if its a family member.

Don't see multiboxing as helping in pvp in this. Any advantage it offered would be offset by those who only go out to pvp in a group of friends. Solo is always at a disadvantage regardless of how many accounts they can be on at once.

Where multiboxing is helpful is for quickly moving pure iron to an alt account. So instead of spending an hour mining pure iron and getting ganked by some hyper kids, losing 15 stacks of it, you can safetly move it to an alt. Rather than log out and back in with alt on same account and risk items disappearing or being stolen by another player.

In the end having more than one account is an expensive way to compete with players who always play games with at least one friend or family member while still being diasadvantaged in a fight against them.

[Yami]

Originally posted by HypeR:

no it should be equal with everyone if its 3 everyone should have 3 plots

they could do that but then everyone would have same sub price if the go with the tiers then that can ftp option with no plots and limit and skill gain like eve

[HypeR]

Originally posted by Yami:

Originally posted by HypeR:

no it should be equal with everyone if its 3 everyone should have 3 plots

they could do that but then everyone would have same sub price if the go with the tiers then that can ftp option with no plots and limit and skill gain like eve

game is already b2p but

[methoz84]

If you're willing to pay for an expensive beta, then don't cry here and pay more!

[Jamie]

So I think you should be able to buy a maximum of 4-5 plots, but don't charge a subscription for them. Subscription for the game, if it's good, is ok, but not for plots, they have to be unique.
Clans should only be allowed to have a certain number of plots and only clan plots should be allowed to be connected to each other. Of course the 4-5 of your own can also be together, but the neighbor has to keep a distance from another plot. Also, plots should not be set to resource points or the resource should then appear near the edge of the plot.
Trees should only disappear forever under foundations and various objects; other trees should always grow back. Unless they solve it so that you can plant trees yourself. Of course not 1000 trees per plot.