Lost half of the player base in just 2 weeks

[Bloodsmith The Dragon]

How many months do you think it will take for the game's player base to dip into the hundreds?

I'd say 6 months max. This is how long it will take for players to get bored of grinding resources and meaningless building before they realize how much of an empty shell this game is.

[Caduryn]

I know the reason...

SANDBOX Game goes into Early Access, People clearly NOT liking Sandbox Games buying it, playing few min and hate-posting on the Forum because "nothing to do".

But there is a lot to do.... for People who understand what a Sandbox Game is and how it is played.

[Menzagitat]

in 6 months we will see at least two big updates.
And after such updates player activity will increase.

I think the game will survive.
The question is, do you want / hope the game to survive?

[sarteck]

Originally posted by Menzagitat:

in 6 months we will see at least two big updates.
And after such updates player activity will increase.

I think the game will survive.
The question is, do you want / hope the game to survive?

I want it to, and I hope it does, but I sincerely doubt it. (And as far as the guy above blaming everyone else and not the game, that's dumb.)

There's been so many questions asked to the devs to clarify, and so many have gone basically ignored.

I sincerely hope they prove me wrong, and not because I care about the people that bought it; I want a game like this to succeed because I like the concept. And the more games that succeed like this, the more others will be made.

On the other hand, if this one fails, it becomes less likely to be seen by other devs as a profitable venture, and games like this would come out more slowly and rarely.

[gisk]

Nightingale, which is another game with similar Survival Sandbox MMO released a few months ago to 50,000 concurrent players on steam. They're currently sitting at 500 daily players, completely dead game. Those devs had the decency to release a Dedicated-Server client since their model of ONLINE ONLY MMO failed.

Pax Dei release to 11,000 concurrent and is rapidly dropping (less than half now), and their first (of many) competition is releasing in the coming week (Once Human). Let's see how Pax Dei devs do it when the numbers fall to unsustainability. Will they fold completely and screw everyone that bought their game or have the decency like Nightingale devs and release a dedicated server to allow anyone who bought they game to continue enjoying after they close shop.

My guess is, anyone who paid for this game lost their money. Enjoy it now while you can.

[Caduryn]

Originally posted by gisk:

Nightingale, which is another game with similar Survival Sandbox MMO released a few months ago to 50,000 concurrent players on steam. They're currently sitting at 500 daily players, completely dead game. Those devs had the decency to release a Dedicated-Server client since their model of ONLINE ONLY MMO failed.

Pax Dei release to 11,000 concurrent and is rapidly dropping (less than half now), and their first (of many) competition is releasing in the coming week (Once Human). Let's see how Pax Dei devs do it when the numbers fall to unsustainability. Will they fold completely and screw everyone that bought their game or have the decency like Nightingale devs and release a dedicated server to allow anyone who bought they game to continue enjoying after they close shop.

My guess is, anyone who paid for this game lost their money. Enjoy it now while you can.

Nightingale is a lot of things but clearly NOT a Sandbox Game, and not a MMO

[Do It For Hargon]

Originally posted by sarteck:

Originally posted by Menzagitat:

in 6 months we will see at least two big updates.
And after such updates player activity will increase.

I think the game will survive.
The question is, do you want / hope the game to survive?

I want it to, and I hope it does, but I sincerely doubt it. (And as far as the guy above blaming everyone else and not the game, that's dumb.)

There's been so many questions asked to the devs to clarify, and so many have gone basically ignored.

I sincerely hope they prove me wrong, and not because I care about the people that bought it; I want a game like this to succeed because I like the concept. And the more games that succeed like this, the more others will be made.

On the other hand, if this one fails, it becomes less likely to be seen by other devs as a profitable venture, and games like this would come out more slowly and rarely.

i love the genre, but incompetent devs that try and make things like this are so common. probably one of the "most likely to fail" genres i've come across. the biggest crowdfund scandals always seem to be in similar vein to this game too. it's just a difficult to develop type of game. meticulous planning miscalculations, so many errors and hangups, feature creep issues, greed taking over (because people know players are starved for this type of game, as less and less fulfill that niche), etc. all happens so often. it's a miracle when one makes it out of "game dev hell".

[Doomed]

I find it wierd and really sad that people are actively rooting for a game to fail. So much so that they track daily players and visit the forums all day.
How sad this is and what does it say about these people rooting for hate for a game they will never play.

[Mr Rabbit]

Originally posted by Bloodsmith The Dragon:

How many months do you think it will take for the game's player base to dip into the hundreds?

I'd say 6 months max. This is how long it will take for players to get bored of grinding resources and meaningless building before they realize how much of an empty shell this game is.

games dead in at least 2 months...
it will NOT take off after 1.0 at all due to the scam sub system in place
sub cost will vary depending on plots you wish to use.. so the ones who paid for master edition... they will be subbing max price... scam

[Menzagitat]

Originally posted by sarteck:

Originally posted by Menzagitat:

in 6 months we will see at least two big updates.
And after such updates player activity will increase.

I think the game will survive.
The question is, do you want / hope the game to survive?

I want it to, and I hope it does, but I sincerely doubt it. (And as far as the guy above blaming everyone else and not the game, that's dumb.)

There's been so many questions asked to the devs to clarify, and so many have gone basically ignored.

I sincerely hope they prove me wrong, and not because I care about the people that bought it; I want a game like this to succeed because I like the concept. And the more games that succeed like this, the more others will be made.

On the other hand, if this one fails, it becomes less likely to be seen by other devs as a profitable venture, and games like this would come out more slowly and rarely.

I actually don't care for the people who bought it.

But I've seen that the game is meant to have a casual target audience.
That means we cannot compare it with mmos which attract players who consume content by rushing fast to see and play the "end game"

I think they did a good job attracting some of these casual players and there are more to join later if the devs don't give up.

The fact that devs don't give many details
- showed to developers how many are ready to support the idea. Even if they stop playing, they expect updates and will return. It is part of the deal.
- prevents us to criticize their intentions and act as negative "influencers". Maybe not so much we here on the forum but those who make youtube videos

[Menzagitat]

Originally posted by Mr Rabbit:

Originally posted by Bloodsmith The Dragon:

How many months do you think it will take for the game's player base to dip into the hundreds?

I'd say 6 months max. This is how long it will take for players to get bored of grinding resources and meaningless building before they realize how much of an empty shell this game is.

games dead in at least 2 months...
it will NOT take off after 1.0 at all due to the scam sub system in place
sub cost will vary depending on plots you wish to use.. so the ones who paid for master edition... they will be subbing max price... scam

This actually tells us that you will not buy and play the game and you think there are many others.
But does not imply that there is a shortage of players ready to pay after 1.0
I don't like the way how we are supposed to pay for plots either. I wait to see how much will actually cost / month. Maybe it will be affordable, comparable to other months subscriptions.

[Maxpain]

The devs are not worried has they got the 39.99 from most who quit. A sub system just shows this is turning into a money grab.
39.99 to beta test as its not ready for EA then get us to sub what a joke.

[Maxpain]

Originally posted by Caduryn:

I know the reason...

SANDBOX Game goes into Early Access, People clearly NOT liking Sandbox Games buying it, playing few min and hate-posting on the Forum because "nothing to do".

But there is a lot to do.... for People who understand what a Sandbox Game is and how it is played.

Game goes into EA when its not ready to leave beta thats the issue. I have no issue with sandbox games but releasing as EA then charging us to beta test it for them is a money grab.

[Dreaming Prince]

Originally posted by Maxpain:

Originally posted by Caduryn:

I know the reason...

SANDBOX Game goes into Early Access, People clearly NOT liking Sandbox Games buying it, playing few min and hate-posting on the Forum because "nothing to do".

But there is a lot to do.... for People who understand what a Sandbox Game is and how it is played.

Game goes into EA when its not ready to leave beta thats the issue. I have no issue with sandbox games but releasing as EA then charging us to beta test it for them is a money grab.

i would call it alpha as it is still missing alot of features and systems. also sandbox is a bit of a stretch, more like just a box

[Menzagitat]

Originally posted by Dreaming Prince:

also sandbox is a bit of a stretch, more like just a box

I like that!

[Jake From State Farm]

Another asshat post. There is plenty to do beyond crafting and gathering. I've been in plenty of dungeons and they are pretty big.

Also the numbers have been steady. Yes it dipped but it is steady. I also see new people coming all the time. Not to mention if people got the game through the website and not on Steam. The numbers are higher.