Their discord is HiveMind mentality

[PrideGroupIsEvil]

The moderators there don't like people who choose reality over identity politic pronouns. Just a PSA for those who have seen how "good" DEI and woke people are.

Specifically, they banned me for my AboutMe rather than anything i did in the discord. (i literally just said hi after joining). My AboutMe pushes back on Leftist policing in a way that's polite but not at all shy.

[0Tempest]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Layarion:

my politics were hidden away in my "AboutMe". You have to very intentionally go looking into my profile to see that. since i literally only said hi, i'm 100% confident the AboutMe is the only reason, though they never listed one. so i wouldn't call it an "anti-politics" thing since it's their personal politics that likely made them take such offense to mine.

Its actually fairly easy to look at your AboutMe, just click on your avatar and it pops up there. if its further down, they just click on "Full Bio" and it brings up the whole page. If your stuff is front and center, its more of a case of "Check the new person out"

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από WraithTDK TBTPs!:

See, to me, it's all about story integrity. There's pandering for "progressive points" and there's "making a game featuring a diverse cast." I see no issue with creating new IPs where the protagonists are female, or ethnic minorities, or gay, or whatever. I say by all means, create new characters and whole worlds filled with diversity.

I like Fields of Mistria, it has all the stuff in it ppl complain about, pronouns, ambigous body MC, diverse cast, but i dont feel like its in my face about it, those characters just happen to be that, and thats why i couldnt care about the politicing involved with the game. i think as long as the game is good, the politicing shouldnt matter, but the politicing can effect if it IS good. luckly like OP said, theres nothing in Slay the Princess, and i honestly expected that. tbh i didnt even expect a thread like this to pop up here.

[WraithTDK [TBTPs!]]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από 0Tempest:

I like Fields of Mistria, it has all the stuff in it ppl complain about, pronouns, ambigous body MC, diverse cast, but i dont feel like its in my face about it, those characters just happen to be that, and thats why i couldnt care about the politicing involved with the game. i think as long as the game is good, the politicing shouldnt matter, but the politicing can effect if it IS good. luckly like OP said, theres nothing in Slay the Princess, and i honestly expected that. tbh i didnt even expect a thread like this to pop up here.

I didn't either. Which is why it bothered me so much. Because reasonable people with no strong feelings one way or the other on this issue see threads like this, with someone ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about "wokeness" in a forum about a game they love that doesn't have anything bad in it, and it colors their interpretation of things. So the next time someone talks about the actual issues with Ghostbusters: Answer The Call, or some Sweet Baby, Inc. disaster, people tone it out, because they think it's just another doucher playing the victim card over getting the boot on discord because he was probably talking ♥♥♥♥.

[PrideGroupIsEvil]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από 0Tempest:

Its actually fairly easy to look at your AboutMe, just click on your avatar and it pops up there. if its further down, they just click on "Full Bio" and it brings up the whole page. If your stuff is front and center, its more of a case of "Check the new person out"

this does not change the truth about my "has to be intentional" statement. just look at all steps you yourself listed to get there. 1) must have mouse on me 2) and you must click. you don't do both of those by accident and you have to go out of your way to find it.

"surprised a thread like this exist here"
ya and honestly it wouldn't have if the moderators didn't go out of their way to be like that. i personally would want to know if they were like they before buying, so posted this.

[Grizzled Grizzly]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από WraithTDK TBTPs!:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από 0Tempest:

you said you only said "hi" so i dont see any evidence of a case of "wrong politics". Helldivers did the same thing, banning anyone that showed ANYTHING political, regardless of if it was right or left.

Here's where that doesn't add up to me.

How many people you think enter their discord? What are the odds that for ever single person that shows up, their mods go digging into their profile for "wrong think?"

Not terribly likely. I can imagine them doing that if someone is coming in and stirring up arguments; because they want to figure out just who is this person that's causing trouble. But I'm getting more of the feeling that OP is the type who comes in, starts ♥♥♥♥, is completely oblivious to what he's set off, and then play the victim when he's told he's no longer welcome.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από 0Tempest:

By all means, give informative information, theres ppl that do care about this topic. IMO it shouldnt be the deciding factor. Fields of Mistria is honestly a really good Stardew-esk game even though it very clearly has elements of wokness in it. the likes of ACShadows and Outlaws does deserve the crap it gets for forcing it down our throats, and Shadows case of causing a international incident, it does influence me to not buy either, mostly due to the obvious pandering and force feeding the ideology (Plus Outlaws looks like garbage)

See, to me, it's all about story integrity. There's pandering for "progressive points" and there's "making a game featuring a diverse cast." I see no issue with creating new IPs where the protagonists are female, or ethnic minorities, or gay, or whatever. I say by all means, create new characters and whole worlds filled with diversity.

It doesn't become a problem until they're taking established, classic characters, and changing them to fit these roles (I wrote an article about that once, where I coined the term "hand me down diversity[wraithtdk.livejournal.com]" to describe the phenomenon). Or when they're introducing new characters, but every scene, every story point, every other line of dialogue is just beating you over the head with "LOOK AT US! WE'RE PROGRESSIVE! GIVE US A MEDAL! IF ANYONE SAYS ANYTHING BAD ABOUT US, IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE *IST!" Or when they start fudging the story-line and doing things that just don't make any damned sense simply so that they can shoe-horn in their characters. THAT is when it becomes a problem.

All that being said...people like OP make it much harder to stop this kind of nonsense, because when you run around screeching about people's preferred pronouns as if it has any impact on you or your life, when any hint of diversity makes you scream "OH NOES IT'S W0KE!!1!" You lend credence to the "if you don't like it, you're probably just *ist" crowd, which makes people tone out any actual, legitimate criticism of the issue and makes it just that much harder to to actually have an open dialogue on the matter.

But we know progressives are notorious for looking back 10+ years into people's twitter history, doxxing, etc. so it isn't that absurd to think they'd do the same in Discord.

[WraithTDK [TBTPs!]]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Grizzled Grizzly:

But we know progressives are notorious for looking back 10+ years into people's twitter history, doxxing, etc. so it isn't that absurd to think they'd do the same in Discord.

Oh, absolutely...so long as they're motivated to do so. They're not just sitting in their rooms picking complete strangers at random for no reason and researching their history. It's when a person sets them off that they get into cancel-mode. And sure, it often doesn't take much at all to se them off...but I don't buy that people are sitting in a popular chat room, and anyone who pops in and says "hi" gets a background check. That doesn't seem feesible. It seems far more likely that OP went it, said something that he considered to be innocuous, that set them off in the first place, and then came here and played the victim card because the mean 'ol chat room moderators saw no reason to put up with their ♥♥♥♥.

[GoatPepper]

no one cares that you got kicked from a discord Karen, grow a thicker skin

[Jimmy Rustler]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Layarion:

The moderators there don't like people who choose reality over identity politic pronouns. Just a PSA for those who have seen how "good" DEI and woke people are.

Specifically, they banned me for my AboutMe rather than anything i did in the discord. (i literally just said hi after joining). My AboutMe pushes back on Leftist policing in a way that's polite but not at all shy.

How could you play this game and not realize that the people who made it were communist hipsters?

[WraithTDK [TBTPs!]]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Jimmy Rustler:

How could you play this game and not realize that the people who made it were communist hipsters?

I don't recall anything that in the game that reminded me of communism. But more importantly, who cares about the social politics of the developer so long as they keep said politics out of the game? Let them believe whatever the hell they want, so log as their games aren't beating me over the head with them.

[Jimmy Rustler]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από WraithTDK TBTPs!:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Jimmy Rustler:

How could you play this game and not realize that the people who made it were communist hipsters?

I don't recall anything that in the game that reminded me of communism. But more importantly, who cares about the social politics of the developer so long as they keep said politics out of the game? Let them believe whatever the hell they want, so log as their games aren't beating me over the head with them.

I agree, apart from their politics not being incredibly obvious from the game

[WraithTDK [TBTPs!]]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Jimmy Rustler:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από WraithTDK TBTPs!:

I don't recall anything that in the game that reminded me of communism. But more importantly, who cares about the social politics of the developer so long as they keep said politics out of the game? Let them believe whatever the hell they want, so log as their games aren't beating me over the head with them.

I agree, apart from their politics not being incredibly obvious from the game

Can you point to anything in the game that seemed heavy-handed or communistic? I don't recall anything like that.

[Jimmy Rustler]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από WraithTDK TBTPs!:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Jimmy Rustler:

I agree, apart from their politics not being incredibly obvious from the game

Can you point to anything in the game that seemed heavy-handed or communistic? I don't recall anything like that.

You can tell just from the way the dialogue is written. It's got a lot of tee-hee cutesy-pie humor in it that liberal hipsters love. The story is also about a simp who does the random will of an entitled white woman who thinks she's a man's equal.

Their other game also looks like a bloated diversity nightmare.

[WraithTDK [TBTPs!]]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Jimmy Rustler:

You can tell just from the way the dialogue is written. It's got a lot of tee-hee cutesy-pie humor in it that liberal hipsters love.

I'm not sure that's so much liberal hipster as it is elder millennial/gen-z thing. It's a generation of kids who grew up with modern anime. I don't see the appeal either, but whatever; a lot of the stuff I grew up on is cringey when I actually re-watch it through an adult lens, but it still influenced my formative years. Voltron comes to mind.

Cutesy stuff just seems to be the way of boys and young men these days. It makes me wince sometimes. But ultimately it's not hurting me. I was a lot more vocal about this stuff when it started becoming more of a thing and I was in my late 20's/early 30's. But after a lot of time spent trying to think as objectively as possible, I've realized that it's important to separate "these people are doing something unethical/immoral" from "these people are kind of annoying, I wish they'd stop acting that way."

There's nothing wrong with being annoyed by people doing cringey ♥♥♥♥. But I don't think it warrants undue hostility.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Jimmy Rustler:

The story is also about a simp who does the random will of an entitled white woman who thinks she's a man's equal.

Only if you play it that way. You can chose to focus entirely on killing her, and then when you get to her in Goddess-form, stick strictly to standing up to her and basically saying "yack all you want, I'm still going to kill you when this is all said and done."

It seems to me that they put a great deal of effort into letting players handle the situation as the think they really would. If you want to a man(bird-lizard-thing) on a mission to kill a deceptive threat to the world...you can do that. If you want to play it as an anime romance, you can do that. etc. etc. etc.

I'd be annoyed if the character you play was an ineffectual idiot who can't ever stand up to her, and she's a human princess who somehow knows everything and can kill you with one one hand chained to the wall for no reason other than "strong female characters." But I don't see that here.

I definitely don't see communism.

[Jimmy Rustler]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Jimmy Rustler:

I definitely don't see communism.

Then God has truly blessed your life.

[WraithTDK [TBTPs!]]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Jimmy Rustler:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Jimmy Rustler:

I definitely don't see communism.

Then God has truly blessed your life.

Ok...so can you point to an actual example in the game of something that sounds like communism?

[Jimmy Rustler]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από WraithTDK TBTPs!:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Jimmy Rustler:

Then God has truly blessed your life.

Ok...so can you point to an actual example in the game of something that sounds like communism?

I didn't say the game had explicit Marxism in it, just that it's very obvious it was made by those sorts of people. The whole notion of the game is very postmodern and at least mildly feminist, but that's as much as I can say. There's also their other game, which is much more clearly perched in one, or several, of the branches of the tree of Marxist critical theory.

It's the default assumption anyway, when people like this are all over Western indie gaming, and absolutely ubiquitous in mainstream Western gaming.