this is messed up.......

[Unmotivated]

alright, this will sound very weird. i have this game on the old Xbox. my dad got it, and i had a blast with it until the system stopped working. i bought this on Steam, but for some reason it's totally different. yeah,i still got alot of the characters i know, like Ding Chavez and Louis Loiselle, but it's seriously just a totally differen't Rainbow Six 3 than the one i love. did i get the wrong game, or is this really the same one?

[ARmodder]

Like what is different about it? Less content; weapons, gear, operators? or is the interface just different?

By the way it doesn't sound weird at all, last year I bought Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2005 for PC because I had it for my PS2, and come to find out the PC version is nothing like the PS2 version, in fact the PS2 version has more character and gear customization, better controls, and an overall better UI and overall experience.

[Unmotivated]

Actually, almost everything, save for the gear and one particular operator, is different. The plot seems the same, just the maps are very different. I'm not used to it compared to the Xbox version.

[ARmodder]

Is it better or worse? I ask becuse right now I'm really keen to get this on sale, as well as Lockdown (just bought Rainbow Six vegas the other day) I like Rainbow Six 3 as it is the last game of the series to hold onto some of the original gameplay mechanics, I'm hoping those have remained the same, so I can kit out my team and plan missions, that's the issue with Vegas is it's more of a true FPS and has no planning phase, and no team/team kit selection, while I'm typing this I'm installing the original Rainbow Six on my PC trying to get it to work, lol may end up having to build a retro gaming PC!!!

[ARmodder]

Haha got the Original Rainbow Six to work on my PC!!!

[Unmotivated]

Originally posted by ARmodder:

Is it better or worse? I ask becuse right now I'm really keen to get this on sale, as well as Lockdown (just bought Rainbow Six vegas the other day) I like Rainbow Six 3 as it is the last game of the series to hold onto some of the original gameplay mechanics, I'm hoping those have remained the same, so I can kit out my team and plan missions, that's the issue with Vegas is it's more of a true FPS and has no planning phase, and no team/team kit selection, while I'm typing this I'm installing the original Rainbow Six on my PC trying to get it to work, lol may end up having to build a retro gaming PC!!!

well, it's a lot less fleshed out in this one. i remember more texture detail, and the maps are WAY too different, as well as the gear/squad selection. the planning map is a nice touch, though i'm still figuring out how to actually use it. HUD is also very different. overall though, i guess it's the same game. another thing is that your teammates seem to stick way too close to you when moving.

[ARmodder]

Well the thing about texture detail when you haven't played a game for a while, and you switch from one platform to another is that your memory of how the game looked is different from what your seeing now, take for example that the graphics of the PC version of the original Rainbow Six are better then the N64 version, though for me not having played either version since 2006 the graphics of the PC version seem worse then what I remember, in fact they seem more like the N64's graphics!

Had I been playing since say last year I would be able to jump back in and most everything would look/feel the same, it's the same idea as when you forget what someones face looks like after a long time of not seeing them, but once you see them again and you think about them enough you get their facial apperarance impressed in your memory again.

As for maps changing and UI changing most older games like this (especially Rainbow Six games) have variations between console and PC, for example the PC version of Rainbow Six adds more named operatives (they are unlocked as you progress through the campaign), The intel and briefing screens are reworked and have much more detail as well as being fully voiced, and there are 5-7 new maps, while a few maps from the N64 version have been removed, and there are a few more gear options. in the case of consoles the games like Rainbow Six were watered down as the N64 game pack couldn't handle all the content that the PC versions had.

[Unmotivated]

Originally posted by ARmodder:

Well the thing about texture detail when you haven't played a game for a while, and you switch from one platform to another is that your memory of how the game looked is different from what your seeing now, take for example that the graphics of the PC version of the original Rainbow Six are better then the N64 version, though for me not having played either version since 2006 the graphics of the PC version seem worse then what I remember, in fact they seem more like the N64's graphics!

Had I been playing since say last year I would be able to jump back in and most everything would look/feel the same, it's the same idea as when you forget what someones face looks like after a long time of not seeing them, but once you see them again and you think about them enough you get their facial apperarance impressed in your memory again.

As for maps changing and UI changing most older games like this (especially Rainbow Six games) have variations between console and PC, for example the PC version of Rainbow Six adds more named operatives (they are unlocked as you progress through the campaign), The intel and briefing screens are reworked and have much more detail as well as being fully voiced, and there are 5-7 new maps, while a few maps from the N64 version have been removed, and there are a few more gear options. in the case of consoles the games like Rainbow Six were watered down as the N64 game pack couldn't handle all the content that the PC versions had.

makes sense. i'm going to need to get an Xbox 360 hard rive and play it again on my 360 that way. hopefully i won't be nearly as bad as i was 5 years back. xD

[ARmodder]

Well good luck and have fun!

[Legacy | Tactical-Gaming.net]

Originally posted by ARmodder:

Well good luck and have fun!

Join my server in Raven Shield man. Its called Rogue Spear | R6 1 Maps +
i run original R6 maps and everything!

[Spelmo3 | TGN]

Originally posted by Rest is for the Righteous:

alright, this will sound very weird. i have this game on the old Xbox. my dad got it, and i had a blast with it until the system stopped working. i bought this on Steam, but for some reason it's totally different. yeah,i still got alot of the characters i know, like Ding Chavez and Louis Loiselle, but it's seriously just a totally differen't Rainbow Six 3 than the one i love. did i get the wrong game, or is this really the same one?

sounds like you had "rainbow six 3: black arrow".. for the xbox.. its a similar story to r63: ravenshield but more console friendly.. i remember it being a bit linear.. with less customisation.. if you liked the xbox version you will love ravenshield..

[Legacy | Tactical-Gaming.net]

Decay you gettin on? I got two more maps!

[Spelmo3 | TGN]

Originally posted by Recognition.:

Decay you gettin on? I got two more maps!

hell yes

[Phoenix]

The difference between the two is that the PC version is Raven Shield while the console versions are "dumbed down" simplified versions of it simply called R6:3

I have the GC version of Rainbow Six 3 and as far as I know it's the exact same as the PS2 and Xbox versions. In them you lose a lot of the customization available and planning phase for a more linear path to follow.

[RabidSquirrel]

I believe you will find a similiar comparison between the console and PC versions of the original GHOST RECON games. I played the PC versions and remember playing my friends version on the XBOX and I did not like it at all. haha