The Game fails in one major part.

[Mitrell]

This is a season based game lasting 3 month.
Now we are a bit over a month in it. I have played most of the time on t7, since i cant get over realm lord. But thats not the issue.

Many legendary items require between level 60 - 70 to use. So they should also drop at tier 7. The problem is that the legendary that drops are the low level ones you only use through campain. I havent yet got one single legendary item wich require more than level 24. I think i got one level 58 once.

In a season you start from scratch and climb through the 3 month. The problem is, there are many good legendary items wich could help a build going. But they simply dont drop. this is not rewarding in any way, and tbh I cant see myself wanna play a season more without any good drops at all. The game itself is not that great that I enjoy it without loot.

Thats also why the prices in the auction house are insane, Because they are so rare. I dont have 1000´s of Flame elementiums to buy items. This game should be a looter if i understand it right, All loot beside legendary are useless. I havent yet found an item after level 50 I could use as it was. And I pick up all items and look at them.

I dont see the loot aspect of the game. I also see some players farming for a specific item. When they finaly find it, it have minus stats on it, on top of how rare it is, this is just crazy. Its maybe the only drop you get a season and you cant use it, Unless some changes comes regarding loot drops I cant imagine playing a season more with absolute no sense of reward.

The gameplay is fun and the game have a lot to offer. But that dosnt matter when the rest dont follow. Its fun the first month. The end game is very limited, and when its not rewarding aswell it do not make you wanna keep playing, at least not me. I dont have other games to play so I stick to it until season is over. If there will be loot changes or a price nerf on auction house then ill give it a go next season aswell.

PS. Corrode an item, the one and only item you maybe get in a seaon and it fails, is also why I would never corrode an item if I one day find one.

[FrozenVagabond]

The dropping rate is dropping everyday, I guess they are reducing it during the maintenance and they probably think if it takes more time for every single item, players would stay longer.
That's just not how it works and they won't realize.
It is just lack of interesting and playable builds. You can't ask players to spin for 3 months and get a meaningful drop in every 2 weeks. For diablo2 it worked but it was over 20 years ago.
Most players would want to try different builds in this kind of game so they will spend more time on it, but it is just not enough play styles in this game, most items. spells. even characters are just joke.

[不安分树精]

Firstly thanks for the feedback, as we are still on beta, any feedback is valuable for us!

Some of the legendary gears are powerful and that´s why they are rare, and their drop rate may be relatively higher in T8 maps or the watcher. You can stay in T7 to make your BD more complete and get some powerful gears through crafting, after that you can go deeper to get those drops with high values. As you can see, high risks , good outcomes(so dose the corrosion).

And there will be some balancing adjustment for legendary gears in the next season, we would not like to see the situation continues in which few gears win. But we won´t nerf any gears this season as it will be unfair for those who already got it.

And we´re adding gameplay by season, as you can see from the dev blog, one new hero and at least two traits is expected to release in Season 2, along with new theme and new story.

And as a player, i would like to say that the fun of this game is not only finishing the endgame, but also try different BD, the way you explore the game really matters.

Hope you enjoy the game!

[Arkem]

The best gear is crafted. There really isn't alot of legendaries that are good only a
few of them, and they drop from the Traveler (realm lord) and zone bosses. Farm
some elementium and craft your own gear, thats the best way to upgrade, or search
the trade house for something worthy.

[LotusBlade]

Well i mostly find 10 of the same legendary items over and over. They drop in T7, they drop in T8, they drop from map bossses, watcher and even Brave area. Each time i get to high lvl God of Might - again those 10 legendary trash items only. Each time i manage to open rare chest - again those items. I trade cards for random gear and guess what - those 10 items. Seriously, it feels unrewarding to farm items in this game.

And i have no idea where people actually getting those super cool white drops that cost 200+ FE, already turned off items filter and yet to find even single one. I do not collect everything that drops just to check stats, but do read names. Those items that are considered highest lvl in every catregory of auction house are simply nowhere to be found.

In a month of playtime i found only 3 Omnious Embers and zero big corrosion stones, which is very dumb since this season is about corrosion and player supposed to get corrosion stones to actually try corrosion.

[Mitrell]

Originally posted by 不安分树精:

Firstly thanks for the feedback, as we are still on beta, any feedback is valuable for us!

Some of the legendary gears are powerful and that´s why they are rare, and their drop rate may be relatively higher in T8 maps or the watcher. You can stay in T7 to make your BD more complete and get some powerful gears through crafting, after that you can go deeper to get those drops with high values. As you can see, high risks , good outcomes(so dose the corrosion).

And there will be some balancing adjustment for legendary gears in the next season, we would not like to see the situation continues in which few gears win. But we won´t nerf any gears this season as it will be unfair for those who already got it.

And we´re adding gameplay by season, as you can see from the dev blog, one new hero and at least two traits is expected to release in Season 2, along with new theme and new story.

And as a player, i would like to say that the fun of this game is not only finishing the endgame, but also try different BD, the way you explore the game really matters.

Hope you enjoy the game!

I cant get past the realm lord to unlock tier 8. I have tryed so many times, that I dont wanna try it any more. Hiding the loot there is even worse when not all can get there. T7 is a good farming spot, but if the loot isnt there then its even worse. I still think the droprates are to low, and thats what have destroyed the auction house.

I like the game dont get me wrong, there is just not something that makes me want to stay longer, the game isnt rewarding and thats the problem for me. No matter what defense I have i get one shot by the realm lord, and thats why I cant get past it, but that is another story.

[Hasayo]

Originally posted by LotusBlade:

In a month of playtime i found only 3 Omnious Embers and zero big corrosion stones, which is very dumb since this season is about corrosion and player supposed to get corrosion stones to actually try corrosion.

Big corrosion stone is from keegan, edcit boss xD

[treelaunka]

Originally posted by 不安分树精:

Firstly thanks for the feedback, as we are still on beta, any feedback is valuable for us!

Some of the legendary gears are powerful and that´s why they are rare, and their drop rate may be relatively higher in T8 maps or the watcher. You can stay in T7 to make your BD more complete and get some powerful gears through crafting, after that you can go deeper to get those drops with high values. As you can see, high risks , good outcomes(so dose the corrosion).

And there will be some balancing adjustment for legendary gears in the next season, we would not like to see the situation continues in which few gears win. But we won´t nerf any gears this season as it will be unfair for those who already got it.

And we´re adding game-play by season, as you can see from the dev blog, one new hero and at least two traits is expected to release in Season 2, along with new theme and new story.

And as a player, i would like to say that the fun of this game is not only finishing the endgame, but also try different BD, the way you explore the game really matters.

Hope you enjoy the game!

Hey, just stating these bugs/QoL things in-case it's not on the team's radar.

There's a bug with monsters being unhittable, you mainly run into it on maps.

If they're slightly higher or slightly lower than you, and you are right next to them, they may stay untargetable. They also don't aggro to the player.

Also, a Quality of Life for the game, leap slam gets stuck on walls that walking does not, so it's a bit frustrating to use leap slam in tight areas. There are a lot of tightly spaced zones.

Also, the search function in the auction house does not work. Searching anything by the exact spelling brings up nothing. It would also be nice to be able to search by price/currency cost like in path of exile. End game is a lot of working the market.

[Mitrell]

Originally posted by treelaunka:

Originally posted by 不安分树精:

Firstly thanks for the feedback, as we are still on beta, any feedback is valuable for us!

Some of the legendary gears are powerful and that´s why they are rare, and their drop rate may be relatively higher in T8 maps or the watcher. You can stay in T7 to make your BD more complete and get some powerful gears through crafting, after that you can go deeper to get those drops with high values. As you can see, high risks , good outcomes(so dose the corrosion).

And there will be some balancing adjustment for legendary gears in the next season, we would not like to see the situation continues in which few gears win. But we won´t nerf any gears this season as it will be unfair for those who already got it.

And we´re adding game-play by season, as you can see from the dev blog, one new hero and at least two traits is expected to release in Season 2, along with new theme and new story.

And as a player, i would like to say that the fun of this game is not only finishing the endgame, but also try different BD, the way you explore the game really matters.

Hope you enjoy the game!

Hey, just stating these bugs/QoL things in-case it's not on the team's radar.

There's a bug with monsters being unhittable, you mainly run into it on maps.

If they're slightly higher or slightly lower than you, and you are right next to them, they may stay untargetable. They also don't aggro to the player.

Also, a Quality of Life for the game, leap slam gets stuck on walls that walking does not, so it's a bit frustrating to use leap slam in tight areas. There are a lot of tightly spaced zones.

Also, the search function in the auction house does not work. Searching anything by the exact spelling brings up nothing. It would also be nice to be able to search by price/currency cost like in path of exile. End game is a lot of working the market.

And what do this have to do with the topic? Report bugs on discord..

[Zealess]

There is such a huge gap between T7 maps compared to bosses its like the difficulty just gets insane, as well as build investment the spike is startling.

Another major issue is the certain legendary equipment just plain destroy anything you can craft for a ton of builds.

IMO difficulty needs to be increased through the 3-7 range to account for the major spike at bosses in t7 and t8 content. Hard is fine but progression should not hit such a huge wall.

Bosses Stage bosses feel underwhelming reward wise verse time spent (at t7)
Due to graphic effects some moves need better telegraphing because dodging 1 hit moves can be a real issue,

[LotusBlade]

Bosses of t7 (max threat) are not much different from normal map bosses, you can kill them even without big elementium investmen - 1 FE per item would be enough.

T8 is, roughly, 200% more healthier, so you need to triple the damage. I feel super comfortable at t7 bosses with 50m dps per 5 sec and clear t8 just fine. This is quite low dmg by TOP players standarts with their 300m+, yet you simply don't need more of it when everything dies instantly, so i just switched extra 50m dmg for +64% drop rate (pets).

Also, bosses do one shot for insane ammount of dmg no matter what, so you either dodge it, or just eat/revive and kill them with op dmg faster than they kill you.

[TosterNS]

T8 bosses use different, and/or additional skills and everything they throw is one shot. The amount of junk on the screen obscures what is going on and so on. Then again, it's the only hard part of the game since everything else is dead in less than a second once your build is going. To conclude: everyone is a glass canon or getting nowhere, it's not even a choice.

[GrimnirLaguz]

Imo, some of the items should be MORE rare. Idk, I feel like the insane rarity and also possibility for brick-rolled items to drop is part of the fun for grind-lords like me. I do understand that it sucks for casual players, but if you are a super-casual - you should not be trying to match some top-tier no-lifers in terms of gear. If they do make the drop-rates better, this game will be an absolute snoozefest for anyone who plays the game for more than 2h a day.

[nover]

Are you the same dude who said he couldn't farm enough FE to afford gear from the AH? I think I see a pattern here. lol

Originally posted by MorticianIcenheart:

I havent yet got one single legendary item wich require more than level 24. I think i got one level 58 once.

So what now? You haven't got one single Legendary above 24, but you've got a Legendary above level 24 ... What? Make up your mind. Also, you are clearly overexaggerating here, unless you keep running Campaign areas instead of Netherrealm. lol

Originally posted by MorticianIcenheart:

The problem is, there are many good legendary items wich could help a build going. But they simply dont drop.

Wrong. They do drop, otherwise you wouldn't be able to find them in the AH.

Originally posted by MorticianIcenheart:

Thats also why the prices in the auction house are insane, Because they are so rare. I dont have 1000´s of Flame elementiums to buy items. All loot beside legendary are useless.

That's the whole point of the most powerful and rare Legendary gear. If it wasn't as rare and expensive, it would not be rare anymore. You are not supposed to get your hands on them as easily. Is this your first ARPG? That makes no sense. And again, you are wrong. The most powerful gear mainly comes from crafting your own stuff. There's a few exceptions where Legendaries may be better for certain builds.

Originally posted by MorticianIcenheart:

If there will be loot changes or a price nerf on auction house then ill give it a go next season aswell.

Developers can't nerf prices. Prices are made by the players selling their stuff. The issue here is not itemization (even though it's far from perfect), it's you not being able to make it to the endgame. You are supposed to craft gear and farm the hell out of the game to eventually get the more powerful Legendary items, skills etc. You are stuck in T7 for a reason. How about you make an effort and learn the Realm Lord boss mechanics so you don't get hit by everything?

What you're asking for is an easy-mode for casuals. Diablo 3 might be more to your liking. Sorry buddy, but most of the stuff you're talking about is a simple YOU issue. It's not the game's fault.

[maustercheese]

i guess the OP has never heard of path of exile then which does seasons and is going just fine a bit over 9 years later after it's release

so saying that torchlight infinite can't do it to is bs

[Eclipse]

Originally posted by maustercheese:

i guess the OP has never heard of path of exile then which does seasons and is going just fine a bit over 9 years later after it's release

so saying that torchlight infinite can't do it to is bs

whats bs is the likes of you coming here berating players, a lot of ppl rmt in tl infinite and buy elementium, want me to show u proof? Also in POE ppl DO ACTUALLY GET TO KILL END GAME BOSSES AND NOT GET HARD STUCK ON TIER 14 MAPS.... . This game barely have any players to justify auction house, they need to drastically increase drop rates on items
Crafting gear for t7-t8 push is a no no, troll