Undecember or TL:i

[jam201984™©®]

so which do we rekon is lass p2w lol as thats the one i'll play tbh after TL2 i dont even wanna touch this

[joakim.backryd]

undecember have pvp and multi player raids... if you can buy things that give power in that game it will have a much higer impact than the p2w things in TL:i since that [at release] pretty much is a single player game... hopefully with coop soon, but without pvp... what do you win?

[aqvamare]

Originally posted by jam201984™©®:

so which do we rekon is lass p2w lol as thats the one i'll play tbh after TL2 i dont even wanna touch this

Both are similar, one has the korean shop, the other the chinese shop.

For me, T:I had the better action-apg gameflow, so i stick for tomorrow to it.

The first 40-60 hours are simply mind out, and melting through enemies with a big build diversity.

[esexed]

In undecember you can straight up buy currency from cash shop and then buy whatever you want from auction house..

[TheWarden]

Who cares though? The majority of the game is PVE. I understand it sucks but if someone wants to spend 10k so they can kill a raid boss go for it. I understand P2W in PVP MMOs or Shooters but PVE games i dont see the big deal.

[Dragony Leviathan]

i preffer Torchlight infinite because i like single player games :)

[Elveone]

TL: Infinite is the better game IMO. Undecember has an interesting skill system and better graphics but the gameplay is a lot slower and feels a lot clunkier.

[Grandork]

Like Elveone said. Even though he is a Babylon's Fall enjoyer, he is right. Undecember is clunky. Doesn't help that gear progression is 90% Crafted. It was quite annoying.

TL:I is fast paced and just an overall fun game. Now, the big question is, which one will last? The gameplay loop for TL:I isn't that large and I only got to level 40 on Undecember before I stopped, so I can't say much about that.

[Elveone]

Originally posted by Grandork:

Like Elveone said. Even though he is a Babylon's Fall enjoyer, he is right. Undecember is clunky. Doesn't help that gear progression is 90% Crafted. It was quite annoying.

TL:I is fast paced and just an overall fun game. Now, the big question is, which one will last? The gameplay loop for TL:I isn't that large and I only got to level 40 on Undecember before I stopped, so I can't say much about that.

You are obsessed, aren't you :D

[ele]

Undecember is too like PathOfCraptile. You basically pick one skill and spam it all game, forever. They may have changed it by now but I ditched it when it first got released 'cause of that.

[Elveone]

Originally posted by ele:

Undecember is too like PathOfCraptile. You basically pick one skill and spam it all game, forever. They may have changed it by now but I ditched it when it first got released 'cause of that.

TL:I is kind of like that as well. Due to how the skill system works the most efficient way to play seems to be to buff up one skill with all possible augmentations and spam it.

[Grandork]

Originally posted by Elveone:

Originally posted by Grandork:

Like Elveone said. Even though he is a Babylon's Fall enjoyer, he is right. Undecember is clunky. Doesn't help that gear progression is 90% Crafted. It was quite annoying.

TL:I is fast paced and just an overall fun game. Now, the big question is, which one will last? The gameplay loop for TL:I isn't that large and I only got to level 40 on Undecember before I stopped, so I can't say much about that.

You are obsessed, aren't you :D

You are the first person I've seen that has 400+ hours on Babylon's Fall. I'm just that impressed. Even when looking at the rare positive steam reviews of the game, they usually only have 50~60 hours played. Even Bepple only has 172 hours.

[Elveone]

Originally posted by Grandork:

Originally posted by Elveone:

You are obsessed, aren't you :D

You are the first person I've seen that has 400+ hours on Babylon's Fall. I'm just that impressed. Even when looking at the rare positive steam reviews of the game, they usually only have 50~60 hours played. Even Bepple only has 172 hours.

If you can ignore the graphics and the first 20 hours it is a very good action RPG.

[MrWitz]

There's no doubt at all that undecember is egregiously more p2w than TLI.

[ele]

Originally posted by Elveone:

Originally posted by ele:

Undecember is too like PathOfCraptile. You basically pick one skill and spam it all game, forever. They may have changed it by now but I ditched it when it first got released 'cause of that.

TL:I is kind of like that as well. Due to how the skill system works the most efficient way to play seems to be to buff up one skill with all possible augmentations and spam it.

If that's the case then I won't be playing it long.