Why so unfair with canto 7?

[[Alexey]]

This game was fun and stuff, but after trying canto 7. Its so bad gameplaywise, unbreakable coins are horrible. It basically kills entire point of winning clashes.+alot of bleed spam. Any help?

[Orliminecraft]

Evade IDs
If you're on princess don't kill peons with one sinner only. They inflict bleed stacks on death
Canto 7 IDs
Sinking IDs
Lust S2's/S3 IDs (Nfaust/Cinqlair work well)
And of course level 50 IDs

[[Alexey]]

Originally posted by Orliminecraft:

Evade IDs
If you're on princess don't kill peons with one sinner only. They inflict bleed stacks on death
Canto 7 IDs
Sinking IDs
Lust S2's/S3 IDs (Nfaust/Cinqlair work well)
And of course level 50 IDs

this doesnt help at all, i am using all 3 star ids only 1 without uptie 4 and its still horrible, bleed spam is just too bad. 90 dmg cuz of attacking ya kidding me?

[[Alexey]]

all 3 la mancha land ofc, and trio fight if that means anything.

[あいそわらい]

evade coin. Trio fight is doable solo with Maid Ryoshu+Remnant Faust supp.passive xd. Or Pregor with lantern. Just borrow someone Faust with Fluid Sac get FangHunt Hong Lu supp passive

[[Alexey]]

Originally posted by あいそわらい:

evade coin. Trio fight is doable solo with Maid Ryoshu+Remnant Faust supp.passive xd. Or Pregor with lantern. Just borrow someone Faust with Fluid Sac get FangHunt Hong Lu supp passive

I am already borrowing an id...

[あいそわらい]

Originally posted by Alexey:

Originally posted by あいそわらい:

evade coin. Trio fight is doable solo with Maid Ryoshu+Remnant Faust supp.passive xd. Or Pregor with lantern. Just borrow someone Faust with Fluid Sac get FangHunt Hong Lu supp passive

I am already borrowing an id...

faust fluid sac

[[Alexey]]

No

Originally posted by あいそわらい:

Originally posted by Alexey:

I am already borrowing an id...

faust fluid sac

but thanks ima borrow maid from my friend.

[CarThief]

It's a rough one, but still aint' got nothin' on the absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that was Ahab Trio. Though the final boss is a doozy...

-If you got Bloodfiend IDs, use em. They counter the chapter pretty well. I think they heal off any bleed effects, too. Didn't lose anyone fighting the chapter's last boss with them around (while attempts without any bloodfiends left me at 4/12 sinners).

-To fully mitigate Unbreakables, use Evade on them (if single-target). For Unbreakable AOEs, either ignore it, or make sure other units evade/block to minimize damage (while one clashes with it to reduce it's coin power), depending on the severity of said attack. You can, of course, also try to stagger a foe before they pull off a Unbreakable attack/AOE, if you're feeling confident (helps vs some bosses).

Beating Unbreakable coins merely puts their coin power at +1, so a lot of it becomes scratch damage. Healing E.G.O's also help (Fluid Sac), or regenerative Passives (Gregor), or any ID's combat effects (Bloodfiends/etc).

-Some other new IDs are also useful here, like Zwei-Ish with her unbreakable guard. Or the new Meursault with good rolls & evade.

-If you can't evade/mitigate Unbreakables, you can always try sharing the damage by having a different SInner deal with it, or pick one who's resistant to the counter-attack (as merely +1 coin power is literal scratch damage against Resistant Sinners).

-As far as bosses go, reading up on their gimmick generally works, but more specifically:
>Some have AOEs you can just stagger them before they utilize them.
>Some use Unbreakable AOEs you should have one unit clash and others defend.
>A certain group will have one unit act as support and target allies, you could ignore that and focus on killing them one-by-one (else you lack the slots to match theirs).
>The final fight gives Don immunity to dying while allies remain, exploit that.
>On that note, final fight is TOUGH. Expect casualties, bring a full 12-man team.

[Om3ga-Z3ro]

There is a very important point in winning Clashes against Unbreakable Coins, the Damage they deal is extremely low if you win the Clash and they get debuffs or it either applies minimum debuffs to your Sinners or none at all.

Unbreakables is a better alternative to Unclashables where the former gives player agency to try and mitigate a very strong attack vs. the latter just hitting you with very little player agency (Dodge).

[Minh]

They want to make it hard.

Originally posted by Alexey:

Any help?

Yes. Evade ignores it entirely. Faust Fluid Sac & anything that fuels it help a lot. This is the point where you might have to stop & farm for stuff to fully prepare.