First impressions on the new Rodion Rupture ID?

[Ortaign]

https://steamcommunity.com/games/1973530/announcements/detail/6976727636240672307
Rupture hasn't gotten a fully Rupture 000 ID in a very long time, right? Could this be a prelude to future Rupture IDs soon?

She seems like a pretty strong support damage dealer, I really wonder how bad the Courier Trunk self damage will be though

[SmallGespenst]

Seems like she's peak DPS to the extent that she has an expiry date similar to R Heath, but more extremely since she either ejects or is killed, with the damage being both [on skill use] and [on turn end] I don't see it being something that can be healed through.
She has some fun conditionals for supporting rupture, just disabling count consumption with her S1 and 2 is strong, even if her S1 also loses its rupture infliction.
The big question is if her escape will free up her Skillslot in non-chain fights, it's behaviour is only specified for Chain battles where it's freed for the replacement.

[【Silver】]

It's very curious what her kit implies for future kits. Opens up a lot of interesting functions with existing kits and new ones; Ammo ID's could have it added in some way to allow them to regain Ammo, special support kind of effects like this ID has to the other party members or gaining personal effects upon switching into an existing battle.

It makes team building a lot more complicated but also helps with various things outside of Mirror Dungeons like specified Ego Resource gathering.

This ID just seems really good overall, particularly for Rupture depending on the stack limits. Seems like once you start building up too many stacks it'll become impossible to keep her fielded with her taking percentage based HP damage upon skill use and turn end.

[Muzykos]

Her whole rupture Shtick looks very gimmicky, but if the conditionals on her S1 and S2 will be on the lower side I see her working pretty well as it'd make her a pure damage unit that doesn't care about maintaining the rupture count for 5/6th of her kit.

[Joshua Kurayami]

Why is HP/SP self damage a thing? It sounds like something you'd have on something that actually comes with abilities to heal themselves like Red Eyes Ryoshu and not this ID. Plus the whole retreat ID combined with the self damage just makes her feel like a temporary Id where you always have to have one backup ID, which wouldn't be too much of an issue with most other status effects but most rupture IDs are outdated or passable at best.

[jobhobster]

Originally posted by Joshua Kurayami:

Why is HP/SP self damage a thing?

> "I hate being Rapture ID. Really."
> Dies

[Ortaign]

Originally posted by Joshua Kurayami:

Plus the whole retreat ID combined with the self damage just makes her feel like a temporary Id where you always have to have one backup ID, which wouldn't be too much of an issue with most other status effects but most rupture IDs are outdated or passable at best.

I would guess that's the indicator of Rupture getting the Tremor treatment in season 5 and maybe two more Devyat IDs so there's a backup trio or just more IDs of Devyat's flavor

[Joshua Kurayami]

Originally posted by jobhobster:

Originally posted by Joshua Kurayami:

Why is HP/SP self damage a thing?

> "I hate being Rapture ID. Really."
> Dies

Wouldn't even be the first time considering K corp can explode with ampule overdose and talisman can inflict self damage if you have too much.

Originally posted by Ortaign:

Originally posted by Joshua Kurayami:

Plus the whole retreat ID combined with the self damage just makes her feel like a temporary Id where you always have to have one backup ID, which wouldn't be too much of an issue with most other status effects but most rupture IDs are outdated or passable at best.

I would guess that's the indicator of Rupture getting the Tremor treatment in season 5 and maybe two more Devyat IDs so there's a backup trio or just more IDs of Devyat's flavor

Yeah that doesn't sound fun at all. The idea of Devyat just sounds like i'm using time trial or demo IDs while also playing hot potato. Why would I want IDs with only some potential when I can go full out and not have the ID bleed out on me?

[Kildread]

Love the variety, unsure on how usable she'll be. I only use Rupture for weekly content when the status is up in my rotation. Technically, I can use her as an early damage dealer with an expiry and switch her in with the ID she's replacing (Likely Seven Outis...)

[Ortaign]

Originally posted by Joshua Kurayami:

Originally posted by jobhobster:

> "I hate being Rapture ID. Really."
> Dies

Wouldn't even be the first time considering K corp can explode with ampule overdose and talisman can inflict self damage if you have too much.

Originally posted by Ortaign:

I would guess that's the indicator of Rupture getting the Tremor treatment in season 5 and maybe two more Devyat IDs so there's a backup trio or just more IDs of Devyat's flavor

Yeah that doesn't sound fun at all. The idea of Devyat just sounds like i'm using time trial or demo IDs while also playing hot potato. Why would I want IDs with only some potential when I can go full out and not have the ID bleed out on me?

I honestly predict Devyat Rodion will probably have high numbers and easy conditionals with the trade off of being a demo character, which would be pretty fun. Squeeze as much value out of her as possible through healing spam or Wild Hunt revival until she potentially eventually perishes

But we'll have to wait and see

Edit: Actually taking a closer look, she not only gets damage boosting on skills 2 and 3 from her Trunk, but a coin power gain on all her skills as well, not clash power like many IDs. That's on top of the Trunk giving a damage and clash power boost above a certain amount, an amount that's before the Trunk starts hurting her

[Minh]

Yes.

Originally posted by Ortaign:

https://steamcommunity.com/games/1973530/announcements/detail/6976727636240672307
Rupture hasn't gotten a fully Rupture 000 ID in a very long time, right?

Yes.

Originally posted by Ortaign:

Could this be a prelude to future Rupture IDs soon?

Yes.

[SmallGespenst]

Thinking on it, She'll probably be extremely strong for as long as she's in the fight, then ejecting when the trunk starts killing her. at least in MD, she'll probably just stick around in regular fights if the eject doesn't free up her skillslot for another ID.
unfortunately the current state of Rupture will probably cement her as a bit of an MD ID, and her ability to return in Chain battles is a neat curiosity that'll probably never come up 'cause deaths are still rare.
Of course if things change then she'll likely get really good, Rupture being more good and getting a few more Devjat's to form a revolving door of ejecting couriers in Chain fights would likely see her elevating pretty nicely.

[Ortaign]

Originally posted by SmallGespenst:

her ability to return in Chain battles is a neat curiosity that'll probably never come up 'cause deaths are still rare.

Kid named Aleph Abnormality with a skill that kills a Sinner instantly

[Reptiloid]

I hope it is a standard extraction id, which I can grab later. Sounds interesting, but use is questionable. Just like it was with Deici Meursault. Weird.

[Birp]

Originally posted by Joshua Kurayami:

Yeah that doesn't sound fun at all. The idea of Devyat just sounds like i'm using time trial or demo IDs while also playing hot potato. Why would I want IDs with only some potential when I can go full out and not have the ID bleed out on me?

Nah she looks like a fun ID to me.

Being able to swap IDs in/out is already a very useful ability, no matter how you look at it.

You could have her tank a bunch of attacks, then swap out. You could have her use s2/s3, then swap out without wasting turns using s1s. You could throw her in various different teams to use an EGO turn 1-2, then swap out... like for example, use Sanguine Desire in bleed team, then swap out immediately after for a bleed id. You could use her in different teams to generate some wrath/gluttony then swap out.

There's plenty of ways to abuse it, and she even gives a small clash power bonus to w/e id replaces her.

Just because she doesn't fit your narrow view of what id should be like, doesn't mean she's "not fun" or badly designed.

[AritheReaper]

Some others said it already, but I think her retreat effect has a lot of potential. It's not an entirely unheard of mechanic in a game like this; the most infamous example is probably in FGO, since you can get what is effectively a one-per-battle swap between ANY member of your frontline with any in your back.

While this doesn't exactly allow formations anywhere near as busted as that does, the ability to essentially say "I have 7 units in this 6v6" could be a big deal, though I expect it'll take a lot of team building knowledge.