Mistake most people make or forgot (Maybe) for Canto 6

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This is mostly due to 6-34 as people struggle with it. But there are alot of way to turn it around but nvr do it. This guide can be use for other as it very helpful.

Heathcliff? aim at Heathcliff with 15 sp and Roll a 5 Speed. The worst possible RNG. Just Reset... Not ( You can reset it is the worst but I test out this strat in this case and so far been winning consistently)

1. Use block or evade or be ineffective. Just tank the dmg. Dont let him get anymore advanage unless you have reasonable skill to clash a weak skill. If done them right the worst you can do is just Staggered and 50% hp).

If you have someone to outspeed just redirect the least fatal one as heath will mostly be useless in 6-34 due to lose sp (Unless Sunshower) if not just unequip all ego except bodysack or [AEDD] Heathcliff and corrode when it hit -45 sp.

2. One Sided Debuff skill, Do not clash with them unless you have good Sanity they are way to good to be clash ( + Coin Drop, Sinking, Atk power down and Bind). For 6-34, having at least sinking and bind will make clash for turn 2 WAYYYYY Better.

Recommended:
BEST: [Molar Boatworks Fixer] Ishmael (Just Borrow) OR
GOOD: [Wuthering Heights Chief Butler] Outis (Just Borrow)
having both will make it way easier

[The Pequod First Mate] Yi Sang (Skill 1 Bind, Seriously this is way too good for skill 1)

3. Stop Clashing with unreasonable Odds. For 6-34 with 65% you can just assume the they just rigged the odds, make your advantage for next turn instead of giving advantage to them.

4. Make a team for at least 1 Good Debuff EGO, Like (Chain of Others, Of course), (Crow Eye View, Most Yi sang have good speed), (Snagharpoon, Make clashing for Ish Good). If lucky you can use them turn 2.

5. For 6-34, there no need to make a team of 6. You can make a team of 5 and make your debuff unit first like (Molar Ish) having 2 slot will destory the boss. You do not need to do this if you have (Butler Outis) unless you need more gloom or sloth for EGO

6. Reasonable ID Level, Idk why you want to bring a lvl 35 to lvl 45 boss the clash difference will make RNG painful to you. (Around +3 clash power againist you)

Limbus have surprised me by showing how much you can control RNG, way to make boss a cakewalk but nobody try to abuse it. Hoping this may bring some ease to player.

Note: alot of 2 star having good debuff (bind, Coin Drop, Atk Down, Bind) I unable to try them all as I need unit to be at least lvl 40 so I do not get one shot or difference in offense Lvl

[Demonking]

I was actually pretty fortunate because my preferred team for the canto had bind (ego and ego passive), one source of coin power down, and faust for sanity support. Not that she was very needed considering I also had molar ishmael on the team and her sometimes superior WeW ego since it doesn't rely on RNG. So I was able to do it once I figured out the pattern of how to avoid heathcliff getting instant gibbed post stagger.

One more piece of advice I'll add to this thread is that if you run 5, you can get 2 slots on whoever your heathcliff ID is. This should let you counter some of the RNG involving the other heathcliff by letting you give him 4 bind and draining 10 sanity a turn dude to lost clashes.

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If people who you try to give this guide to could read, they would be very upset!

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Originally posted by Demonking:

One more piece of advice I'll add to this thread is that if you run 5, you can get 2 slots on whoever your heathcliff ID is. This should let you counter some of the RNG involving the other heathcliff by letting you give him 4 bind and draining 10 sanity a turn dude to lost clashes.

True but still a little risky as you be neutral SP for at least 2 to 3 turn until it rack up which may give the boss more edge to u if you clash with it

Originally posted by tiedgamer:

1. Use block or evade or be ineffective. Just tank the dmg. Dont let him get anymore advanage unless you have reasonable skill to clash a weak skill. If done them right the worst you can do is just Staggered and 50% hp).

If you have someone to outspeed just redirect the least fatal one as heath will mostly be useless in 6-34 due to lose sp (Unless Sunshower) if not just unequip all ego except bodysack or [AEDD] Heathcliff and corrode when it hit -45 sp.

Still I felt that people do not do this much."The only good defensive is evade" If you are lucky u can evade all in neutral SP or you can be constant and just block. Counter is not really that good as stragger can stop it but if there is none then it just ok.

But the main point is to redirect without give SP if you know you are going to lose and it so good that idk why nobody want to do it.

Originally posted by tiedgamer:

2. One Sided Debuff skill, Do not clash with them unless you have good Sanity they are way to good to be clash ( + Coin Drop, Sinking, Atk power down and Bind). For 6-34, having at least sinking and bind will make clash for turn 2 WAYYYYY Better.

The problem I see most of the times is people just want to clash and want to be extermely greed in exchange more risky (want to Inflict Debuff and gain SP) but when you lose clash

Boss get SP > Boss did not get inflict with debuff cause you lose the clash > RAGE > Blame RNG > Repeat for next unit cause Boss now have 45 SP > All Unit Stagger > Lose (Snowball effect)
That what you get for playing it that way

The best I see is One sided Skill 1 (Which mostly have ok effect). Skill 2 which have Good debuff most of the ID, you just want to clash instead cause it have ok Rolls and pray RNG to roll well to be greedy.

The best Tip is to not be greedy at the start, make prep to setup and get benefit. Once done, you can start to be greedy.

[Demonking]

Originally posted by tiedgamer:

Originally posted by Demonking:

One more piece of advice I'll add to this thread is that if you run 5, you can get 2 slots on whoever your heathcliff ID is. This should let you counter some of the RNG involving the other heathcliff by letting you give him 4 bind and draining 10 sanity a turn dude to lost clashes.

True but still a little risky as you be neutral SP for at least 2 to 3 turn until it rack up which may give the boss more edge to u if you clash with it

I found it's not necessarily TOO risky, given if you win your turn 1 clash, you'll be at 10 to 14 SP, if suncliff -19 sp or something, and will have 2 slots to look for an S2 or S3 to clash with.

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Originally posted by Demonking:

I found it's not necessarily TOO risky, given if you win your turn 1 clash, you'll be at 10 to 14 SP, if suncliff -19 sp or something, and will have 2 slots to look for an S2 or S3 to clash with.

I decide to try to do this just now, I decide to mostly use 2 unit which is
[The Pequod Harpooner] Heathcliff (VI)
[Öufi Assoc. South Section 3] Heathcliff (VI)

I decide to clash with mostly skill 2 for [The Pequod Harpooner] Heathcliff cause it have more coin power then skill 3, I could try to get envy res but I found out that I do not have alot of envy ego or envy ID.
It could be better if I have them but a 33.3% chance to get skill 3 is TOO RNG.
(1- 5/6 x 4/5) = 0.333 idk if this forumla is correct my math is terrible. Inform me if it wrong.

I will split to two thing When won the first turn and Lose the first turn.

Won the clash:
I get some sweet 4 sp by turn 2. Boss is back to 15 SP but have debuff and sinking. Extermely good advantage, Ez win.

Lose the clash:
I lose the clash and the boss hit way harder on heathcliff (Stagger) around 40% with bleed and rupture, I still manage to debuff the boss but more painful to as I have to clash to prevent my heathcliff from dying. have alot of sinking on him to some 2 unit One sided and be stable to win.

Main thing that happen - Heathcliff corrode due to -20 sp (Stagger on turn 2 so drop SP again) and boss with 45 SP (I dont even clash with him anymore until he corrode and reset 0 sp to be able to clash again). Lose one extra slot on a stagger heathcliff.

Not gonna lie I enjoy losing the clash cause it very risky but DAM it can go so bad for me.

[Öufi Assoc. South Section 3] Heathcliff (VI) same thing but with some temor on boss it will roll high. But the samething happen like [The Pequod Harpooner] Heathcliff (VI).

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The reason I make this is so not really a guide to only 6-34. It mostly a more stable, less rely on RNG side. Less on Reset the stage to get the best first turn for future battle.

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Although SunCliff is TOP TIer in this fight, Nobody gonna get him just for "this fight".

[Demonking]

Originally posted by tiedgamer:

Although SunCliff is TOP TIer in this fight, Nobody gonna get him just for "this fight".

They exist at max leve/tier for me at all times just because I like how they play and they're usually a good tank.