A few things

[Kamltoe]

I got a couple 000 with the free currency the game gives you at start. How do I know if they are any good? Max level is 40? When they hit max lvl is there a way to make them better? What banners are best to go for when extracting? I like the game but still a little fuzzy on the combat mechanics and how to minmax dmg/survivability but seems fun so far

[SIGNAL]

Originally posted by Kamltoe:

Originally posted by CAN U IMAGINE 16 TIMES THE DRM?:

It's Nclair u want maxed. Only that one. Reindeer Ishmael works for all Content Maxed. R.Cliff was staple from Day 1 and overused in Railway. NFaust is still good for mantaining SP with Nclair and works in any Comp. Would aim for a Maxed Sunshower Yi Branch too. I would recommend Dieci Rodion and Konglu ( For Attack Redirect Abuse ) too.

I own all IDs but that's what i would recommend for New Players.

The rest of the Stuff is very Comp Specific like Blade Lineage and Rupture.

Nclair and Rcliff are their names? The names are kinda confusing to me ;D

I just got harpoon cliff 000 its aight?

He's naming some big IDs that are useful to have, but you might not have them right now. NClair refers to N Corp Sinclair, an ID with negative coins and a high raw damage output, and RCliff refers to R Corp Heathcliff, a fast ID that can apply Fragile on his skill 3, significantly boosting the damage of your other IDs.

For Harpooner Heathcliff, I'm not familiar with him, but I've heard he has a lot of good synergies, from Envy Resonance to Bleed to just pure Pequod. Most notable is the fact that he just straight up deals more damage when low on health, also making him a good tank.
He sounds like a solid ID that you can put in a lot of different teams.

[Daliena]

Originally posted by Kamltoe:

I just got the wilthering heights butler faust which is the featured 00 on the banner. Are 00 worth upgrading or only 000?

If you want to make a themed team (instead of just "who has the highest damage and to hell with it if they can actually work together as a team, it's every man for himself") then you will want to upgrade OO's too. They may not always be as strong as OOO's, but they slot in well to support the OOO's.

Originally posted by Kamltoe:

I just got harpoon cliff 000 its aight?

Personally I'd rate Pequod Harpooner Heathcliff even higher than R. Corp Rabbit Heathcliff these days. Rabbit Heathcliff has an ammo mechanic, which he expends for his skills. He has incredibly powerful burst, but once he runs out of ammo, his damage falls off like cement shoes pushed off a pier, and there -are- fights where that will happen these days no matter how you try pretty much. Don't get me wrong, R. Cliff is definitely good, but he's not THE most bonkers Heath available overall IMHO.

Harpooner Heathcliff meanwhile is just solid all-around, being bulky as hell and having good clash/damage values. He has gimmicks you can build around (Envy Resonance, Bleed, Poise, other Pequod members), but he's already a pretty outstanding ID even before you engage with those gimmicks. Also while I won't spoil, Chapter 6 is Heathcliff's and you will find it mandatory to bring a Heathcliff ID of some sort for a number of fights, and Harpooner is what I personally used (and I am fairly spoiled for choice, having 8 different Heathcliff options available to me if we count his base O ID). He's very bueno is what I'm trying to say.

[A5G_Reaper]

Originally posted by Kamltoe:

I just got the wilthering heights butler faust which is the featured 00 on the banner. Are 00 worth upgrading or only 000?

The 00 usually got some kind of tradeoff, they'll either lack damage output or clash power or needs some sort of buff/debuff synergy team. But a few are perfectly fine (and actually better than a good number of the 000), in which case they're simply cost-efficient to uptie and/or dispense while you're building your squad. Do check them out.

Very good ones: Shi Don, Seven Ryoshu, Cinq Outis

Situational: Pequod Yi Sang, Molar Yi Sang, Lobotomy Faust, Blade Lineage Don, Kurokumo Hong Lu, Hook Hong Lu, Shi Heathcliff, Shi Ishmael, Sloshing Ishmael, G-corp Outis

[Damoncles]

Originally posted by A5G_Reaper:

Originally posted by Kamltoe:

I just got the wilthering heights butler faust which is the featured 00 on the banner. Are 00 worth upgrading or only 000?

The 00 usually got some kind of tradeoff, they'll either lack damage output or clash power or needs some sort of buff/debuff synergy team. But a few are perfectly fine (and actually better than a good number of the 000), in which case they're simply cost-efficient to uptie and/or dispense while you're building your squad. Do check them out.

Very good ones: Shi Don, Seven Ryoshu, Cinq Outis

Situational: Pequod Yi Sang, Molar Yi Sang, Lobotomy Faust, Blade Lineage Don, Kurokumo Hong Lu, Hook Hong Lu, Shi Heathcliff, Shi Ishmael, Sloshing Ishmael, G-corp Outis

Okay stop right there
Shi units need to hit 50% HP to work and the buffs are minimal.
Kurokumo Hong Lu only good quality is the damage of his S2, which still can't even clash.
Sloshing Ishmael... is just utter trash with no purpose.

[SIGNAL]

Originally posted by Yukks:

Okay stop right there
Shi units need to hit 50% HP to work and the buffs are minimal.
Kurokumo Hong Lu only good quality is the damage of his S2, which still can't even clash.
Sloshing Ishmael... is just utter trash with no purpose.

Gonna disagree with some of the Shi part

Shi Don is a quality ID even without the 50% HP conditional
Shi Ishmael's skill 2 is a monster with the conditional active, since the additional coins apply even in clashes

Agree that Shi Heathcliff isn't that great though, even with the conditional

[DAVOS CENSORSHIP 2030 FTW!!!]

ErlKliff could turn out to be the most Broken Cliff ID yet but u never know with P.M.

I used QueeCliff and Ishmahab with BLFaust, BlDon, KimSault and X Op Poise ID in BL Event.

There is one Fight where QueeCliff is better than Hobocliff in Canto VI but i heard ♥♥♥♥ has been Nerfed already.

Besides, no one knows what they are gonna cook with Uptier V.

Some useless ID could become OP or others Fixed.

[A5G_Reaper]

Originally posted by Yukks:

Originally posted by A5G_Reaper:

The 00 usually got some kind of tradeoff, they'll either lack damage output or clash power or needs some sort of buff/debuff synergy team. But a few are perfectly fine (and actually better than a good number of the 000), in which case they're simply cost-efficient to uptie and/or dispense while you're building your squad. Do check them out.

Very good ones: Shi Don, Seven Ryoshu, Cinq Outis

Situational: Pequod Yi Sang, Molar Yi Sang, Lobotomy Faust, Blade Lineage Don, Kurokumo Hong Lu, Hook Hong Lu, Shi Heathcliff, Shi Ishmael, Sloshing Ishmael, G-corp Outis

Okay stop right there
Shi units need to hit 50% HP to work and the buffs are minimal.
Kurokumo Hong Lu only good quality is the damage of his S2, which still can't even clash.
Sloshing Ishmael... is just utter trash with no purpose.

Shi Don is a clashing menace even without the HP condition, only starting to get powercrept at the last two chapters. Even with rather low damage output.
Shi Ishmael with the condition active is flat out better than most 000.
Shi Heath is the worst of the three, but still clash pretty good under 50% HP.
KK Hong Lu fits the condition I mentioned (got only good damage and nothing else), hence making the list.
Sloshmael is a stupidly good tank with the occasional ♥♥♥♥-you clash-winning third skill. She's never meant to be damage dealer.

[Daliena]

Originally posted by A5G_Reaper:

Sloshmael is a stupidly good tank with the occasional ♥♥♥♥-you clash-winning third skill. She's never meant to be damage dealer.

Just about every other tank worth mentioning brings something other than just tanking to the board, and Sloshmael isn't even that good a tank.

If you absolutely must have a 2-star tank, take Lob Corp Don instead (Walpurgisnacht isn't that far off by now).

[Damoncles]

Originally posted by A5G_Reaper:

Originally posted by Yukks:

Okay stop right there
Shi units need to hit 50% HP to work and the buffs are minimal.
Kurokumo Hong Lu only good quality is the damage of his S2, which still can't even clash.
Sloshing Ishmael... is just utter trash with no purpose.

Shi Don is a clashing menace even without the HP condition, only starting to get powercrept at the last two chapters. Even with rather low damage output.
Shi Ishmael with the condition active is flat out better than most 000.
Shi Heath is the worst of the three, but still clash pretty good under 50% HP.
KK Hong Lu fits the condition I mentioned (got only good damage and nothing else), hence making the list.
Sloshmael is a stupidly good tank with the occasional ♥♥♥♥-you clash-winning third skill. She's never meant to be damage dealer.

Well, why are you recommending a newbie to uptie a 00 ID that deals good damage and does nothing else? We have 00s that clash well, make teams actually work thanks to count application, and fuel important EGO. Sometimes they do all 3 (Liu Ryoshu, Butler Faust, 7 Heathcliff...).
Odd criteria if you want to help new players.

[Minh]

Originally posted by Kamltoe:

Are 00 worth upgrading or only 000?

Some 00 are worth upgrading but they'll eventually be replaced by 000 so I'd say only 000.

[kooyaydan2]

Originally posted by Birp:

R Ishmael is great, BL Sinclair is unfortunately terrible.

R Ishmael needs to be uptied to uptie4 to become great, however. At uptie 3 or below she's kinda meh.

i agree bl sinclare is jsut bad the VERY low coin rolls and etc with dmg related probloms

[Hel Spites]

Originally posted by Kamltoe:

Originally posted by CAN U IMAGINE 16 TIMES THE DRM?:

It's Nclair u want maxed. Only that one. Reindeer Ishmael works for all Content Maxed. R.Cliff was staple from Day 1 and overused in Railway. NFaust is still good for mantaining SP with Nclair and works in any Comp. Would aim for a Maxed Sunshower Yi Branch too. I would recommend Dieci Rodion and Konglu ( For Attack Redirect Abuse ) too.

I own all IDs but that's what i would recommend for New Players.

The rest of the Stuff is very Comp Specific like Blade Lineage and Rupture.

Nclair and Rcliff are their names? The names are kinda confusing to me ;D

I just got harpoon cliff 000 its aight?

To clarify a bit here, this game's community has developed a naming convention for the ids. The first letter or part of the name is the organization or character that the id is tied to, with the rest of it being the sinner's name.

For example, nclair is N corp Sinclair. Rcliff is R corp heathcliff. Harpoon cliff is often referred to as quecliff because that ID has him playing the role of quequeg, a character you'll meet later. Similarly kimsault refers to the meursault's blade linage ID which is based on a character named Bamboo Hatted Kim.

To answer your other question though, he's a pretty good bruiser tank. His stagger threshold is high up so you can get it out of the way quickly, he has a ton of HP and he deals more damage the less HP he has. He's solid enough on his own so as a starter tank, he's a good pull, although if you really want to see him shine he needs to be in an envy resonance team with ahab ish, starsang, middle don and middle mersault.

edit: by the way, ignore the dude talking up shi don and sloshing ish. I don't know what his deal is but he's talking up some truly godawful units. Shi units are all trash and will likely continue to be until they get their leader unit, whoever that might be and sloshing ish is the single worst ID in the game.

[Brovyaka]

https://www.prydwen.gg/limbus-company/tier-list/
you can read all the pro's and con's of all id's here

[Damoncles]

Originally posted by Ruiner:

https://www.prydwen.gg/limbus-company/tier-list/
you can read all the pro's and con's of all id's here

Absolutely not. Prydwen is just bad.

[Birp]

Originally posted by Ruiner:

https://www.prydwen.gg/limbus-company/tier-list/
you can read all the pro's and con's of all id's here

Prydwen's list is not as bad as before, but still kinda bad.

I think this one is more accurate.

https://limbus.gg/tier-list/