screw gacha games

[kelthuzad]

why the ♥♥♥♥ have i rolled 50+ times and not gotten a single 3 star identity.
and why is it constantly giving me duplicates of 2 stars that i already own.
such a scummy game.

[Jacklary]

Just tried a 10 rolls, get R corp Ishmael. Just save your lunacy until April for the new Outis ID man

[kelthuzad]

Originally posted by Sergalius:

Originally posted by Mastema:

>I have doo doo luck therefore gacha must be rigged and uhhh cash grab or something
Sounds like you ♥♥♥♥♥ more on this forum than play the actual game. Funnily enough they're giving a literal 000 ID guarentee ticket on current mini event.

and you can get a DUPE of your 000. man pls. is it your first gacha? you are genshin child? GACNA MEANs BUSINESS. only mica are crazy enough to not play business. PM Would scum you, coz it is like market works. stop pretending about F2P limbus, you crazy fans kek. People here are mad white knights.. oh. People. people never changes.

i got 3 rabbit corp on my first 40 general rolls....

[kelthuzad]

man imagine having a life or having a auto play function

[Vigiliance Aurelious]

luck issue

[prv.rat]

Originally posted by kelthuzad:

man imagine having a life or having a auto play function

How can "autoplay" increase your chances to roll something in gacha?

[C712_2]

Even if rng screws you they're constantly giving out guaranteed 3* tickets. (We're not even talking about shard boxes)

Ex: first week of relese game they gave out free 3* ticket, now as reward for attendance event, pretty sure "Hell's chicken" will also feature one.

Oh yeah you're guaranteed to get 3* or EGO in 20 pulls from welcome banner so idk how u never got anything.

[kelthuzad]

Originally posted by prv.rat:

Originally posted by kelthuzad:

man imagine having a life or having a auto play function

How can "autoplay" increase your chances to roll something in gacha?

it means i can finally use the 200 capsules i have while not wasting my life away as a white knight for this gacha game

[DoT]

People forget what chance means. The game isn't hard coded to check that you only pull an ego every 100 pulls or something. Nor does it check to see what 2 stars you have and prioritize giving you more. You see someone getting lucky with pulls and expect the same treatment. That is your problem.

I never pulled ting tang hong lu, nor grip faust, 2 of the 3* that i wanted, but i farmed enough shards to buy them.

I suggest you don't rely on luck if you are looking for specific characters, also you don't need 3*'s, they aren't super godly must have's if that is what your complaining about. And not getting a single E.G.O or 3* doesn't matter if you don't have a character in mind that you absolutely want, and if you do, go back to the first idea, which was farming to earn what you want.

Plus, we have gotten free ego / 3* through tickets, a ticket coming up from the current event, as well as the beginner banner that guarantee's a 3* / E.G.O.

[Xaelon]

You must be new to Gatcha games because how Limbus does things is much nicer than many gatcha games.

The biggest thing Limbus does is that it doesn't require specific duplicates to max a unit. Imagine for a minute that you pull a 000 unit that you really want, only to find out that they're only good at max uptie and the only way to uptie them requires character duplicates.

Would you prefer to have a pity system but you have to pull a character 3 times to max them out?

Or would you rather only ever need to pull a unit once?

Assuming a game's rates and F2P income are decent the second option ends up being a way better deal for us players.

Here's a list of other reasons why I prefer the way Limbus does things:

• Currently the free lunacy offered seems to be enough to give you a reasonable number of pulls per banner assuming you do your dailies and skip banners that don't have a new character on focus.
  
• The rates to pull an EGO or 000 identity are roughly double what I've typically seen.
  
• Shards you don't need can be turned into thread, allowing you to uptie whatever you want.
  
• The game also hands out boxes that give shards three times a week and you can farm thread daily.
  
• New units are added to the pool immediately, so there's always a chance to get whoever you missed on future banners.
  
• If the current "spend energy" event is anything to go off, future events will hand out both 10 pull tickets and/or tickets that give a 000 unit + 10 pull.

A traditional pull based pity mechanic is always welcome in any gatcha game, but I think Limbus gives you enough ways to get the rarest stuff that it's really not needed.

Of course this assumes that the things I mentioned above aren't "adjusted" in the future. I've played enough gatcha games to know they're often very generous during the first few months and then change into something much less friendly so we'll have to see what happens with Limbus.

[Yerc2]

To be successful with their predatory monetisation, gacha games either need to have outstandingly unique gameplay, be lewd, or have a blindly loyal fanbase that loves the series.

As while this game does have a loyal fanbase, Limbus company itself is quite subpar in terms of it's gacha and gameplay. In what free players have access to, the content in the game, and how much people get for their money spent.

Decent gacha games give out 5 to 11 pulls a day. Not looking at you FGO, or Genshin though. >.>
This game gives what, 5 pulls a week?
Greedy company is greedy. Bad game is bad.

They dropped the ball with this game, and it looks like it's just a quick dip for some cash.
The copium idea is that they're doing it so they can fund a good game doesn't sync with me, seeing as they already had two good game releases.

[Livy]

Originally posted by DoT:

People forget what chance means. The game isn't hard coded to check that you only pull an ego every 100 pulls or something. Nor does it check to see what 2 stars you have and prioritize giving you more. You see someone getting lucky with pulls and expect the same treatment. That is your problem.

I never pulled ting tang hong lu, nor grip faust, 2 of the 3* that i wanted, but i farmed enough shards to buy them.

I suggest you don't rely on luck if you are looking for specific characters, also you don't need 3*'s, they aren't super godly must have's if that is what your complaining about. And not getting a single E.G.O or 3* doesn't matter if you don't have a character in mind that you absolutely want, and if you do, go back to the first idea, which was farming to earn what you want.

Plus, we have gotten free ego / 3* through tickets, a ticket coming up from the current event, as well as the beginner banner that guarantee's a 3* / E.G.O.

Yeah, odds are odds. No matter how many times you roll it will always be 1.3% for ego and 1.45% for target.

At best you can estimate how many pulls you need for more resnoable odds like (1-odds of not pulling)^(amount of pulls)=x.

I like to go for x=0.5=50% since it's easy to set to 75%/82% and so forth.

Which would put the id at 5% chance of not getting it in 200 pulls.

[Birp]

When people call this game greedy, then like what gacha games are they comparing this to?

[JKArtorias]

Originally posted by Yerc2:

To be successful with their predatory monetisation, gacha games either need to have outstandingly unique gameplay, be lewd, or have a blindly loyal fanbase that loves the series.

As while this game does have a loyal fanbase, Limbus company itself is quite subpar in terms of it's gacha and gameplay. In what free players have access to, the content in the game, and how much people get for their money spent.

Decent gacha games give out 5 to 11 pulls a day. Not looking at you FGO, or Genshin though. >.>
This game gives what, 5 pulls a week?
Greedy company is greedy. Bad game is bad.

They dropped the ball with this game, and it looks like it's just a quick dip for some cash.
The copium idea is that they're doing it so they can fund a good game doesn't sync with me, seeing as they already had two good game releases.

Tell me what gacha with a very limited character pool gives out 11 pulls a day.

Infact, tell me a gacha that gives even 2 pulls a day. The closest i can think of is Counterside which wants you to pull for a character multiple times after the dupe changes.

Also that game has a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of characters, since it's the type of gacha that can introduce characters endlessly.

The only gachas i can name where you can get characters endlessly every day are Azur Lane, GFL and Arknights(kind of). But all 3 of those sell skins and have alotta characters.

You need to understand there're different types of gacha with different business models. Even the creators of GFL made a gacha with a different style: Neural Cloud. Because it's a different style of game.

Edit: Also Counterside locks the Advanced characters behind there own banner which you only get 12-14(Not sure on the specifics) a week without premium currency. 11 of those you buy with 2600 gems.

Since the game limits the amount of gems you get a week to like 640 or something by giving you 10 standard pulls a week, they create a clear difference between those that spend and those that don't.

Just wanted to add this here, incase anyone thinks Counterside is good. It's not lol. Average rates, good character design and interesting story though. Give it a try if you want.

[Yerc2]

Originally posted by JKArtorias:

Infact, tell me a gacha that gives even 2 pulls a day. The closest i can think of is Counterside which wants you to pull for a character multiple times after the dupe changes.

Daily:
SMS gives 7, BA gives 11, Rnda gives 8, LO gives 5, GT gives 5, I think ES gives 4, Nikke gives 4, SK:NL gives 3, AK gives 2.

But I have to admit that the individual character rates in AK are something like 0.4%. so not too good. I believe all of the other games have rates ranging from 1% to 2% when off-banner. Some go to about 3% when on banner.
At least those games and LC aren't like FGO where your gem income and the rates are both bad. :D

[WEF CENSORSHIP 2030 FTW!!!]

Counterside and Epic Whaler are like a Million Times Worse in almost every Regard. Specially when it comes to the Gear/Equip System. Those Gachas are Hard Drop for New Players and F2P unless you joined Day 1 on Release for MANY Reasons. I was gonna farm for a Faust but then i got it on first pull right after Last Emergency Update. Not to mention i got 2 Freakin Egos ( which is Ultra Rare from my 9000 Reroll Tests since Day 1 ) from that Banner. I'm probably gonna save the 4/1 Event Rewards for Next Banner. Farming Don Telepole through MD atm. So i guess i kept the Right Account from my 9000 Rerolls given that i already have almost every Ego, Full Op Bleed Team and Full N Corp Powercreepers.