Magic Bullet outis ego is an actual troll

[DevilFromDaBibble]

>Burn ego designed for a burn id that struggles to gain it's resource
>Needs Resonance to gain more bullets
>Pride
>No other burn Id's have pride skills except for liu Rodion Skill 1
the ego truely is a king in binds level bandaid for burn

[Demonking]

Nah it actually looks pretty solid. At least when you aren't exclusively thinking about burn teams. This gives magic bullet outis the ability to basically instantly get up to 6 bullets on a pride resonance team and has some unique applications even outside of that. Obviously for a burn team it's not the greatest but her issues with resource generation is a little overstated to begin with considering you want 99 burn on the target before you get to 7 bullets anyway.

[DevilFromDaBibble]

Originally posted by Demonking:

Nah it actually looks pretty solid. At least when you aren't exclusively thinking about burn teams. This gives magic bullet outis the ability to basically instantly get up to 6 bullets on a pride resonance team and has some unique applications even outside of that. Obviously for a burn team it's not the greatest but her issues with resource generation is a little overstated to begin with considering you want 99 burn on the target before you get to 7 bullets anyway.

Yes in no way am I saying it's awful, in fact I really like it but the fact it requires pride res and the identity it's more designed around being a burn unit that works way better with at least 30 burn on the target, it's a massive troll outside of md, but good none the less

[Demonking]

See the thing I disagree about that is, Magic bullet outis isn't necessarily designed for any one team. Like all WN units she's deigned around her internal gimmicks not around being paired with Leu units or whatever else. Only one of those gimmicks is dark flame. Its her stronger one but she's also a strong pride resonance unit and solidly good at AOE. I just think you're massively misunderstanding its intention.

I'm also pretty sure the ego does give her a way to increase the burn count she applies. I remember looking at the ego and realizing that once you active it she no longer needs a burn team fly. Also realistically you should never even consider MD when it comes to how these things are intended to be balanced. MD lets you horde resources, sanity, and lets you completely break the game over your knee. You'll find a lot of ego and units are infinitely better or worse than you first assume once start accounting for ramp up speed and reasonable damage numbers that don't let you just DPS through everything.

[SmallGespenst]

eh, it works. it's Highest Res so you could easily be working it off of Wrath or Lust, you won't be using it turn one (unless you goal is setting up to execute your own team) so you're probably going to be using it from already having a decent amount of Bullets (incentivised further by the EGO itself) the only problem is that between the SP cost from using the EGO and the SP cost from firing a 7 bullet shot she'd be at significant risk of team-killing.

[SmallGespenst]

Originally posted by Demonking:

See the thing I disagree about that is, Magic bullet outis isn't necessarily designed for any one team. Like all WN units she's deigned around her internal gimmicks not around being paired with Leu units or whatever else. Only one of those gimmicks is dark flame. Its her stronger one but she's also a strong pride resonance unit and solidly good at AOE. I just think you're massively misunderstanding its intention.

you seem to be forgetting that her numbers are pants.
she performs like a 00 without her conditionals running, Dark Flame does nothing without Burn and the only thing left to her kit is the potential damage from Magic Bullet Fire, which, y'know, could be replaced with an Ebony Stem.

[FlintX]

Nah, just use her defense skill more often and the blue skill to attack and you will be fine stacking bullets.

Too bad she only can reach 7 Magical Bullets in total.

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[Armstrong Houston]

Originally posted by DevilFromDaBibble:

in fact I really like it but the fact it requires pride res and the identity it's more designed around being a burn unit that works way better with at least 30 burn on the target, it's a massive troll outside of md, but good none the less

Is it mistranslated? It doesnt require pride res, just res in general.

[khazuskaia]

Outside of Burn, this EGO is a nice addition to Wave Clearing.

Ebony Stem still wins over MB given it has innate 7 Atk. Weight over MB's conditional Atk. Weight. Unless you want a Pride alternative for Pride A-Reson. Chains, Ebony Stem is enough for hitting as many enemies as you can.

Aside of Atk. Weight, MB has a better Passive compared to Ebony because her Bullet sticks doesn't expire unless consumed. Which means you can apply around 1 or 2 Burn per attack; not much but hey, free chip damage.

When used on her MB ID, it's gets spicy. The EGO helps a LOT in getting Bullets ASAP, it helps in her applying both Burn and Dark Flame. Getting 30+ Burn Potency is easy, she can then start applying Dark Flame[DF] instead after that point. Outside of the Passive, her S2 benefits alot because it's DF application is dependent on the number of Bullets she have.

In any case, if you aren't using MB Outis then this EGO wouldn't help at all when Ebony Stem is still the best HE EGO for her. If you are using her, then getting the EGO helps in her Bullet acquisition and wave-clearing.

Just don't try on using the EGO when you are already at 6 Bullets. Unless you are certain she will use her S3 first.

From what I've noticed, Clashes are prioritized over One-sided/Unopposed attacks.

[Minh]

Originally posted by FlintX:

Nah, just use her defense skill more often and the blue skill to attack and you will be fine stacking bullets.

Too bad she only can reach 7 Magical Bullets in total.

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Yes.

[DevilFromDaBibble]

Originally posted by Armstrong Houston:

Originally posted by DevilFromDaBibble:

in fact I really like it but the fact it requires pride res and the identity it's more designed around being a burn unit that works way better with at least 30 burn on the target, it's a massive troll outside of md, but good none the less

Is it mistranslated? It doesnt require pride res, just res in general.

Yeah I reread it and it is just any res but it still doesn't fix burn in general being weaker than other status effects outside of early game/mirror dungeon

[Orliminecraft]

Its certainly unique. I think it has a place as long as you run it with MB outis, otherwise you just use ebony stem

[catz]

Originally posted by DevilFromDaBibble:

Originally posted by Armstrong Houston:

Is it mistranslated? It doesnt require pride res, just res in general.

Yeah I reread it and it is just any res but it still doesn't fix burn in general being weaker than other status effects outside of early game/mirror dungeon

What are you talking about? Burn is one of the more powerful statuses in the game—easy to maintain, with simple coin power conditions, many egos with burn, dark flame, etc. The only thing burn is missing is IDs with good clashing power, which PM will provide for us in the future. So I don't think burn is in a bad spot at all.

[DevilFromDaBibble]

Originally posted by catz:

Originally posted by DevilFromDaBibble:

Yeah I reread it and it is just any res but it still doesn't fix burn in general being weaker than other status effects outside of early game/mirror dungeon

What are you talking about? Burn is one of the more powerful statuses in the game—easy to maintain, with simple coin power conditions, many egos with burn, dark flame, etc. The only thing burn is missing is IDs with good clashing power, which PM will provide for us in the future. So I don't think burn is in a bad spot at all.

Burn literally only has dark flame (which keep in mind is a walpurgis id/ego only status) for it to deal actual damage without requiring stacking the ♥♥♥♥ out of burn on the target, the last proper burn id we got was dawnclair from the third walpurgis and even then unless he is in his ego form he's not really doing good clashing/damage or burn application, burn needs WAY more than just better clashing. Hopefully canto IX will give the much needed id's for burn or atleast other burn status effect

[Cyroy]

Burn is literally busted in MD already. Give it any more power and it'll be a pain to balance. Heck the MD Ego is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ insane in MD as well. It turned Outis from DF applier to the damage carrier of my team. 16k damage points at the end of a hard run, totalling 50% of my team total. I'd argue the ego is overtuned as ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hell.

[DevilFromDaBibble]

Originally posted by Cyroy:

Burn is literally busted in MD already. Give it any more power and it'll be a pain to balance. Heck the MD Ego is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ insane in MD as well. It turned Outis from DF applier to the damage carrier of my team. 16k damage points at the end of a hard run, totalling 50% of my team total. I'd argue the ego is overtuned as ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hell.

it is mirror dungeon. everything is busted in mirror dungeon. you reach damage numbers not even remotely possible in regular gameplay there. You can stack ego resources and gain ego gifts that give stupid strong buffs. Mirror dungeon is in no way a baseline on how something should work