Rusty Commemorative Coin

[Sham!]

Doesnt work with power counters unfortunately
description of the gift says "first single-coin attack skill", at this stage of the game some counters pretty much are attack skills, they are preferable to some s1 even

kinda understand why it doesnt work like i'd like to, but i sure would like to see the heishou ids pop even harder when using their counter

opinions? am i stupid for thinking it would work? is rupture the best archetype for this specifc gift? i think yes

[CarThief]

To my knowlege, counters are Defence Skills, so it (sadly) wouldn't really apply. Though they've always been a weird one, the only defence skill one can't Offset (cancel out) when enemies use it... To say nothing of the logistical nightmare that are Power Counters.

Amusingly, E.G.O attacks are repeated twice with the gift, despite them not being attack skills per se. Sometimes useful, but more of then not a huge pointless drain on SP when you just want to not die to some uber-powerful attack in a clash.

[Red riding hood the third]

it'd be nice if it works on counters only though they'd have to spaghettify their game even further to allow that

[RedCobra]

no.

even if it works remember, defensive skill work differently because. you need to direct them do to diffrent feedback than clash able coin.

clash able counter not work because it's a counter = counter you need to get attacked to trigger attack.

[Sham!]

引用自 RedCobra：

clash able counter not work because it's a counter = counter you need to get attacked to trigger attack.

yeah i know, ultimately it's a defensive skill, ego gift clearly states attack skills
it just feels like a colossal waste to have these on-demand 1 coin skills and not get any juice out of the rusty coin

[Minh]

引用自 Sham!：

opinions?

No.

引用自 Sham!：

am i stupid for thinking it would work?

No.

引用自 Sham!：

is rupture the best archetype for this specifc gift?

No.

[CarThief]

I suppose if you want to maximize the gains from the gift, you'd have to employ something like Ring Yi-Sang's repeating paint attack, or TT Hong Lu's insane 30-roll. With some luck those can do massive damage.

Beyond those, never felt too worth it for most part, E.G.O gets triggered twice, which NUKES the SP level dramatically, it only triggers once per round, and it's all luck who it'll hit, and you can't decide the attack speed order to have someone with a single-coin skill use it first, either. (And the random targetting could provoke a counter-attack, too.)

[Red riding hood the third]

引用自 CarThief：

I suppose if you want to maximize the gains from the gift, you'd have to employ something like Ring Yi-Sang's repeating paint attack, or TT Hong Lu's insane 30-roll. With some luck those can do massive damage.

Beyond those, never felt too worth it for most part, E.G.O gets triggered twice, which NUKES the SP level dramatically, it only triggers once per round, and it's all luck who it'll hit, and you can't decide the attack speed order to have someone with a single-coin skill use it first, either. (And the random targetting could provoke a counter-attack, too.)

being able to use an AoE skill twice is useful on bosses with multiple mobs and you'd ideally use it on ego's that regain SP on yi sang, ishmael and faust. though even at 45sp the sunshower one can backfire if you're unlucky and yi sang corrodes but otherwise its pretty strong.

[ShibaBiba]

引用自 CarThief：

I suppose if you want to maximize the gains from the gift, you'd have to employ something like Ring Yi-Sang's repeating paint attack, or TT Hong Lu's insane 30-roll. With some luck those can do massive damage.

Just wanna say that with TT Hong Lu, you can't get Mutilate to triple trigger by failing the first kill and then succeeding on the second. Little tidbit of info for those curious about it with the coin.