my totally 100% gonna come true theories about limbus (spoilers for canto 6 and 7 along with Sinclair's source book)

[big floppa]

1st one:
-This is about Bari, Demian and Sinclair. Okay, first of all, Sinclair was given The Knight of The White Moon in the plays Sansón created, already weird to see that he was given the role of Bari which is definitely not by coincidence or chance. And you know that Demian always asks Dante to draw him a sheep. You know who this sheep is? It's Bari. Why? In hungarian the word bari is the nickname for sheep. Sheep = bárány -> bari. Also, in Sinclair's source book (Demian), when he falls in love with Frau Eva, who is Demian's mother, he tries to paint a picture of her. And you know what result Sinclair gets? That's right, the portrait looked like him, Demian and Eva. What am I trying to say here? Obviously, Bari is Demian's mother, heck, maybe Sinclair falls in love with her (Eva also loves him near the end of the book) if she is still alive somehow. Or maybe, like in the book where Sinclair gets kissed by Demian in the name of Bari (this is the book's ending I am not joking)
summary: Bari is Demian's mother and Sinclair might fall in love with her if she is still here or he'll get kissed by Demian in the name of Bari. *and Bari is Eva, forgot to add that

2nd one
-When Heathcliff somehow gets a golden bough and tries to bring Catherine back, it goes really wrong because why wouldn't it and a lot of people die in the city, and maybe it will make him get over Catherine, who knows.

[Demonking]

I definitely don't think the 2nd one will come true, because it happens during someone else's canto. For that main plot line to occur, it'd have to be about about heathcliff. I definitely think something will go wrong the first time he tries it, I just don't think it'll be that explosively destructive or predictable. Also I kind of get the feeling that 'getting over Catherine' isn't the direction they want to go with him. I know the heathmael fans would love for her to take that place in his heart, but I really didn't get the sense that this version of Heathcliff and Catherine is as doomed as the others. Dante's entire deal is he's taking these sad and tragic stories, and giving them the ending they deserve.

The idea that heath would give up on her is perhaps in a way a good end, but definitely bitter sweet at best. It'd be a better end if he finally did become successful through limbus company, and in that success he brings her and her memory back to this timeline. Though it is possible that if they continue the story past just the planned section for the sinners, it'll remain a distant relationship at times.

As for your first theory? I definitely agree that the sheep may be a metaphor for Bari, but I'm not convinced by the rest of it. Not because bari couldn't be his mother but because PM ain't that much into love stories despite what I said above. I could fully imagine they go a slightly different, possibly master and student based relationship between them.

[big floppa]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Demonking:

I definitely don't think the 2nd one will come true, because it happens during someone else's canto. For that main plot line to occur, it'd have to be about about heathcliff. I definitely think something will go wrong the first time he tries it, I just don't think it'll be that explosively destructive or predictable. Also I kind of get the feeling that 'getting over Catherine' isn't the direction they want to go with him. I know the heathmael fans would love for her to take that place in his heart, but I really didn't get the sense that this version of Heathcliff and Catherine is as doomed as the others. Dante's entire deal is he's taking these sad and tragic stories, and giving them the ending they deserve.

The idea that heath would give up on her is perhaps in a way a good end, but definitely bitter sweet at best. It'd be a better end if he finally did become successful through limbus company, and in that success he brings her and her memory back to this timeline. Though it is possible that if they continue the story past just the planned section for the sinners, it'll remain a distant relationship at times.

As for your first theory? I definitely agree that the sheep may be a metaphor for Bari, but I'm not convinced by the rest of it. Not because bari couldn't be his mother but because PM ain't that much into love stories despite what I said above. I could fully imagine they go a slightly different, possibly master and student based relationship between them.

I'm pretty sure the other sinners still are able to do a lot of impactful things even if it's not "their" canto, like Dante and Don wasting the wishpower in canto 2, Heathcliff helping Ishmael, Vergilius helping the sinners and much more, the sinners still develop even if it's not within their canto, and Heathcliff's story probably isn't finished yet, along with all of the sinners who already had their turns, (but especially Sinclair, Gregor and Rodya) *(this is regarding the Heathcliff can't do this part)

[big floppa]

Love stories usually always end bad in pm universe, and yeah that was a bit of a stretch but trust me it's gonna happen. anyways, seeing the part where that one lca employee says "a foe is a friend and a friend is a foe for Limbus Company" I can see us fight Demian and his blue fellas so Sinclair finally "hatches" from his egg along with Rodya gaining the sign in the future. but that's all I have of these theories that other people have probably already made.

[Demonking]

Yeah but 'attempt to bring back cathy' is a PRETTY HUGE HEATHCLIFF THING TO DO. I get because someone is the protagonist of the canto doesn't mean everything in the canto will center around them. That said, good lord do you realize how much it'd steal the show for heathcliff to make an attempt at that and cause that much much destruction? That's not a minor role type thing to do, that's a "I'm the main character" type thing to to do.

Diposting pertama kali oleh big floppa:

I'm pretty sure the other sinners still are able to do a lot of impactful things even if it's not "their" canto, like Dante and Don wasting the wishpower in canto 2, Heathcliff helping Ishmael, Vergilius helping the sinners and much more, the sinners still develop even if it's not within their canto, and Heathcliff's story probably isn't finished yet, along with all of the sinners who already had their turns, (but especially Sinclair, Gregor and Rodya) *(this is regarding the Heathcliff can't do this part)

[big floppa]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Demonking:

Yeah but 'attempt to bring back cathy' is a PRETTY HUGE HEATHCLIFF THING TO DO. I get because someone is the protagonist of the canto doesn't mean everything in the canto will center around them. That said, good lord do you realize how much it'd steal the show for heathcliff to make an attempt at that and cause that much much destruction? That's not a minor role type thing to do, that's a "I'm the main character" type thing to to do.

Diposting pertama kali oleh big floppa:

I'm pretty sure the other sinners still are able to do a lot of impactful things even if it's not "their" canto, like Dante and Don wasting the wishpower in canto 2, Heathcliff helping Ishmael, Vergilius helping the sinners and much more, the sinners still develop even if it's not within their canto, and Heathcliff's story probably isn't finished yet, along with all of the sinners who already had their turns, (but especially Sinclair, Gregor and Rodya) *(this is regarding the Heathcliff can't do this part)

I see your point, but don't forget that Heathcliff almost got Limbus Company killed because he stole COUPONS which isn't really a minor thing. Other than that yeh you are right it would steal the show unless they figure out a way to tie it in without doing so (if they even try to do it)

[Demonking]

Diposting pertama kali oleh big floppa:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Demonking:

Yeah but 'attempt to bring back cathy' is a PRETTY HUGE HEATHCLIFF THING TO DO. I get because someone is the protagonist of the canto doesn't mean everything in the canto will center around them. That said, good lord do you realize how much it'd steal the show for heathcliff to make an attempt at that and cause that much much destruction? That's not a minor role type thing to do, that's a "I'm the main character" type thing to to do.

I see your point, but don't forget that Heathcliff almost got Limbus Company killed because he stole COUPONS which isn't really a minor thing. Other than that yeh you are right it would steal the show unless they figure out a way to tie it in without doing so (if they even try to do it)

Still a big diff in the situation though. Heathcliff's canto was up next and PM has a habit of doing something to foreshadow the next canto during the current one. During Rodian they gave sinclair a staring role and gave a nod to his pain. I can't remember what they did for yi-sang during Sinclair's, but he really didn't need it the ♥♥♥♥♥ got the longest canto is the entire game.

Ishmael got some set up for her's during his canto though. Basically I'm saying that fits into a different pattern. The only way I see heathcliff causing that is by saving one of the other sinners from doing something dumb for him. As while he's a determined guy, he's already seen what letting his love for Catherine blind him does. He's seen a 1000 universes where they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ it up and got everyone else hurt in the process and watched who he became when reaching her was no longer possible. I'd sooner see Meursault do something 'nice' in order to bring her back than I would see heathcliff fall into an obvious trap.

[big floppa]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Demonking:

Diposting pertama kali oleh big floppa:

I see your point, but don't forget that Heathcliff almost got Limbus Company killed because he stole COUPONS which isn't really a minor thing. Other than that yeh you are right it would steal the show unless they figure out a way to tie it in without doing so (if they even try to do it)

Still a big diff in the situation though. Heathcliff's canto was up next and PM has a habit of doing something to foreshadow the next canto during the current one. During Rodian they gave sinclair a staring role and gave a nod to his pain. I can't remember what they did for yi-sang during Sinclair's, but he really didn't need it the ♥♥♥♥♥ got the longest canto is the entire game.

Ishmael got some set up for her's during his canto though. Basically I'm saying that fits into a different pattern. The only way I see heathcliff causing that is by saving one of the other sinners from doing something dumb for him. As while he's a determined guy, he's already seen what letting his love for Catherine blind him does. He's seen a 1000 universes where they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ it up and got everyone else hurt in the process and watched who he became when reaching her was no longer possible. I'd sooner see Meursault do something 'nice' in order to bring her back than I would see heathcliff fall into an obvious trap.

Maybe you are right, I haven't really thought about the Heathcliff thing too much it was just a random guess compared to Bari sheep metaphor thing

[EASY PETE]

So sinclairs a simp

[Minh]

Diposting pertama kali oleh big floppa:

You know who this sheep is?

Yes.

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Why?

Symbolism.

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And you know what result Sinclair gets?

Yes.

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What am I trying to say here?

Connection.

Diposting pertama kali oleh big floppa:

-When Heathcliff somehow gets a golden bough and tries to bring Catherine back, it goes really wrong because why wouldn't it and a lot of people die in the city, and maybe it will make him get over Catherine, who knows.

It works properly. They.