Pms should stop adding envy pecs to railways ngl

[[Alexey]]

Those fights suck, like fr suck. Its just ego spam fights. You stagger half of em on first turn or deal with enemy sided ego spam. Its just a bad gamedesign. No fun gimmics, just nothing good.

[Babbles]

For the damage they can deal they are really weak. Also saving egos to defeat them is just using the games systems as intended. They can be annoying but RR is also meant to be some of the harder content the game has so it being hard is its entire reason for existing.

[[Alexey]]

Originally posted by Babbles:

For the damage they can deal they are really weak. Also saving egos to defeat them is just using the games systems as intended. They can be annoying but RR is also meant to be some of the harder content the game has so it being hard is its entire reason for existing.

Ofc railway is meant to be hard. But hard and rng based isnt the same thing.

[[Alexey]]

Originally posted by Alexey:

Originally posted by Babbles:

For the damage they can deal they are really weak. Also saving egos to defeat them is just using the games systems as intended. They can be annoying but RR is also meant to be some of the harder content the game has so it being hard is its entire reason for existing.

Ofc railway is meant to be hard. But hard and rng based isnt the same thing.

You can easily get 3 s3 in 1 turn. Or 2nd wave of 2nd part of line5 where if you get 4 lust res you basically have to restart.

[Demonking]

I wouldn't say envy pecca are bad in any way honestly, they're the only fights in the game that feel more or less like you're fighting an equal opponent. I also think you're overestimating how dangerous they are by a high degree considering unlike them, we walk in with the ego resources needed to start staggering and killing them quickly. It's legitimately a non-issue in dungeon or railway format and resetting constantly to get the absolute smallest number of turns possible is an entirely self inflicted hell.

[RedCobra]

well we can go back to classic RR1 with Full Abno and Bosses only.

[Joshua Kurayami]

Eh but envy pecs are my favorite part for the same stagger reason. I get to wipe out a wave early so I don't end up feeling like I'm trying to chip away health from some BS abnormality like Fell bullet.

[CarThief]

They're fun, but highly flawed...

-It pretty much requires the player to own some high-rolling E.G.O's, or die.
-On round 2 or 3, it pretty much just becomes E.G.O spam slop.
-There's no strategy, just smash with E.G.O. They roll too high on speed 9/10 times.
-Their Corrosion debuff lies - not even staggering them stops it, only killing them does.

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What would make it more tactical would be...
-Their speeds are waaay lower. Maybe 1-3 or half their ID's (rounded down).
-They consume resource on E.G.O Selection, not on use.

That'd let you stagger em with a one-sided attack before they could pull it off, or just outright beat it in a clash, and either way they wouldn't have the resources to spam it again so soon.

(Might make it too easy with hoarded MD resources though, but right now it's E.G.O spam or die, so eh. It'd make them viable as regular encounters atleast. Maybe those downgrades as a weaker non-boss version.)

[Om3ga-Z3ro]

Oh wow someone else that doesn't like the Envy Pecatula, when I say that I don't like it the whole "Attack of the Clones" concept, when they got introduced, people just gave me Jesters and called me names.

[lorde]

Originally posted by RedCobra:

well we can go back to classic RR1 with Full Abno and Bosses only.

rr1 didnt have full abno and bosses, i.e that k corp stage i OBLITERATED with my kuro hong lu sweep. it felt so good to get back at them.

[Reptiloid]

Originally posted by Om3ga-Z3ro:

Oh wow someone else that doesn't like the Envy Pecatula, when I say that I don't like it the whole "Attack of the Clones" concept, when they got introduced, people just gave me Jesters and called me names.

Don't you be worryin'. We will throw jesters at him and call him names as well. No one will be left behind!

[Reptiloid]

Originally posted by alice:

Originally posted by RedCobra:

well we can go back to classic RR1 with Full Abno and Bosses only.

rr1 didnt have full abno and bosses, i.e that k corp stage i OBLITERATED with my kuro hong lu sweep. it felt so good to get back at them.

Good times, when KK Hong was one of the best id's in the game, despite being a 00 XD

[lorde]

Originally posted by Reptiloid:

Originally posted by alice:

rr1 didnt have full abno and bosses, i.e that k corp stage i OBLITERATED with my kuro hong lu sweep. it felt so good to get back at them.

Good times, when KK Hong was one of the best id's in the game, despite being a 00 XD

i ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ love his id so much dude, his cloud cutter was my savior until i managed to get the 000 IDs like quick supress-maxer

[lorde]

Originally posted by alice:

Originally posted by Reptiloid:

Good times, when KK Hong was one of the best id's in the game, despite being a 00 XD

i ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ love his id so much dude, his cloud cutter was my savior until i managed to get the 000 IDs like quick supress-maxer

i also still see hong lu's s3 animation as him bashing into the enemy with his crotch and not his leg kicking them to this day

[Mastema]

I mean, so far they have appeared only in 2 Railways now, although RR 4 was the main focus and grand entrance for them. I do agree that they shouldn't overdo them and just plop them down as a filler enemy in every new Railway to come; otherwise, they will become extremely stale and overused.

[DAVOS CENSORSHIP 2030 FTW!!!]

They are boring because it's just a RNG Battle of who can Ego One Shot/Stagger First.

There's 0% Strat for that ♥♥♥♥.

One of the Laziest Crap they have done.

Amounted to nothing for Railway.