Mirror Dungeon and Thread

[Silver l>>>]

Wasnt there talk about making the Dungeon also be able to give thread?
What heppened to that?

If it was me: Just exchange the Level for thread at the end of the dungeon would be enough
Even if its only optional when you not expend Weekly bonus and is a 1:1 conversion (meaning 30 thread)
If they SERIOUSLY will Flood the game with 000 and EGO we would NEED A ♥♥♥♥ TON of thread, 30 from daily isnt enough
And losing 3 shard boxes for 30 thread is good enough for me.
Do you all think is good enough or should be more?

[Demonking]

We already have thread grinding that can give you up to 45 a day if you sip 3 of them. That's 315 a week at the price of 12 boxes a day. Which you get 24 if you make a habit of logging in twice a day or so. I am literally sitting on 1000s of thread I have nothing to do with except for when I feel like giving up some of my boxes to go through and star tier 4ing my egos. So no, don't reduce the box count that's the opposite of what needs to happen.

No what we would PREFER out of mirror dungeon is EXP tickets since those are so much more annoying to grind and you need so much more of them to make an ID viable. It feels like you use up 60% or more of two weeks worth of grinding whenever a new ID comes out.

[Silver l>>>]

Originally posted by Demonking:

We already have thread grinding that can give you up to 45 a day if you sip 3 of them. That's 315 a week at the price of 12 boxes a day. Which you get 24 if you make a habit of logging in twice a day or so. I am literally sitting on 1000s of thread I have nothing to do with except for when I feel like giving up some of my boxes to go through and star tier 4ing my egos. So no, don't reduce the box count that's the opposite of what needs to happen.

No what we would PREFER out of mirror dungeon is EXP tickets since those are so much more annoying to grind and you need so much more of them to make an ID viable. It feels like you use up 60% or more of two weeks worth of grinding whenever a new ID comes out.

Seems like you expend ALL your modules on Thread and not XP :P
But an option for tickets may also work
Having MD had interchangable reward will be pretty epic really
You do the daily for cheap and rapid
MD for extra reward

[Minh]

Originally posted by Silver l>>>:

Wasnt there talk about making the Dungeon also be able to give thread?

No. There was.

Originally posted by Silver l>>>:

What heppened to that?

None.

Originally posted by Silver l>>>:

Do you all think is good enough or should be more?

Former.

[Demonking]

Originally posted by Silver l>>>:

Originally posted by Demonking:

We already have thread grinding that can give you up to 45 a day if you sip 3 of them. That's 315 a week at the price of 12 boxes a day. Which you get 24 if you make a habit of logging in twice a day or so. I am literally sitting on 1000s of thread I have nothing to do with except for when I feel like giving up some of my boxes to go through and star tier 4ing my egos. So no, don't reduce the box count that's the opposite of what needs to happen.

No what we would PREFER out of mirror dungeon is EXP tickets since those are so much more annoying to grind and you need so much more of them to make an ID viable. It feels like you use up 60% or more of two weeks worth of grinding whenever a new ID comes out.

Seems like you expend ALL your modules on Thread and not XP :P
But an option for tickets may also work
Having MD had interchangable reward will be pretty epic really
You do the daily for cheap and rapid
MD for extra reward

Not really, I'm still module positive. There's just no daily bonus for EXP so I feel no need to do it other than complete my dailies. Also I don't think interchangable rewards works. We NEED those boxes in order to make the current F2P balance of the game work. I'd rather them just add EXP to the EX rewards from the battle pass.

[Joshua Kurayami]

The tedious dungeon is not done. There's still a button with a lock on on the left side of the dungeon entrance.

[Silver l>>>]

Originally posted by Demonking:

Also I don't think interchangable rewards works. We NEED those boxes in order to make the current F2P balance of the game work. I'd rather them just add EXP to the EX rewards from the battle pass.

I ALSO would like for the reward to be MORE
but dosnt really works like that
Having it Interchangable with Thread and Tickets would make it more rewarding withouth hiting them in the wallet, heck, having less boxes around is better

as you said, MD having Boxes IS what PM has been known for, "a gacha made by people who dont know gacha", so having it as an "Option" and not mandatory is a Plus for player, specially Whales,Withouth hiting PM Revenue
For example, right now i have 600+ boxes
I just dont know on what expend them, the present Pass ID are mhe for me, and i have a couple EGOs i want but not really NEED them
I NEED thread and XP, Specially Thread, as all my 00 and Zayin/Teth Ego are uptie 4, but still got the 000 and HE/WAW EGo, which is a TON of treath and shard
I could Exchange boxes into shard, and shards into Thread, But that is HEEEEELLLLA ineficiant
Having the option to Not do boxes, and getting a good amount of Thread or Xp, will give me a reason to Play MD right now

[Silver l>>>]

Originally posted by Joshua Kurayami:

The tedious dungeon is not done. There's still a button with a lock on on the left side of the dungeon entrance.

Yes, but last stream dont remember ANY talk about this topic
So i wont hold my hopes

[Silver l>>>]

Originally posted by Minh:

Originally posted by Silver l>>>:

Wasnt there talk about making the Dungeon also be able to give thread?

No. There was.

Originally posted by Silver l>>>:

What heppened to that?

None.

Originally posted by Silver l>>>:

Do you all think is good enough or should be more?

Former.

Tankhs for you answer :)

[Joshua Kurayami]

Originally posted by Silver l>>>:

Originally posted by Joshua Kurayami:

The tedious dungeon is not done. There's still a button with a lock on on the left side of the dungeon entrance.

Yes, but last stream dont remember ANY talk about this topic
So i wont hold my hopes

Most people would just rather focus on the stuff they're getting now rather than the stuff that we are getting in the future like achievements, dungeons past floor 5, monthly identity rotation, recurring missions and QoL dungeon stuff. Granted I am not sure if what we are getting is going to be thread, exp, lunacy, or all loot but we are definitely getting more.

[Demonking]

Originally posted by Silver l>>>:

Originally posted by Demonking:

Also I don't think interchangable rewards works. We NEED those boxes in order to make the current F2P balance of the game work. I'd rather them just add EXP to the EX rewards from the battle pass.

I ALSO would like for the reward to be MORE
but dosnt really works like that
Having it Interchangable with Thread and Tickets would make it more rewarding withouth hiting them in the wallet, heck, having less boxes around is better

as you said, MD having Boxes IS what PM has been known for, "a gacha made by people who dont know gacha", so having it as an "Option" and not mandatory is a Plus for player, specially Whales,Withouth hiting PM Revenue
For example, right now i have 600+ boxes
I just dont know on what expend them, the present Pass ID are mhe for me, and i have a couple EGOs i want but not really NEED them
I NEED thread and XP, Specially Thread, as all my 00 and Zayin/Teth Ego are uptie 4, but still got the 000 and HE/WAW EGo, which is a TON of treath and shard
I could Exchange boxes into shard, and shards into Thread, But that is HEEEEELLLLA ineficiant
Having the option to Not do boxes, and getting a good amount of Thread or Xp, will give me a reason to Play MD right now

I disagree with the idea that its unreasonable to ask for 'more'. Yes we get plenty of boxes and lunacy from mirror dungeon. I'd never reasonable think to ask for more of that. Adding a light amount of EXP to to the EX battle pass isn't the same as simply asking for 'more' though. It's covering a sort of blind spot present in the current grind cycle without actually drawing away from potential revenue streams. (Being that most of the time, if people buy something its 10 rolls or the BP. Even PM understands this considering their decision to make it so seasonal IDs have a week cooldown before you can shard them.) What you're asking for is a future no one in their right mind would use considering at BEST you could hope for giving up yellow boxes for 5 threads a pop, but each of those yellow boxes are infinitely more valuable than those 5 threads. As I said before, if you need threads you can get 315 a week just by skipping your daily thread laxuractives. 1260 a month. The literal only reason I'm not at 5,000+ right now is I recently accidentally got 200 shards for Royshu and went through tiering all of her egos up 4.

[Silver l>>>]

Originally posted by Demonking:

I disagree with the idea that its unreasonable to ask for 'more'. Yes we get plenty of boxes and lunacy from mirror dungeon. I'd never reasonable think to ask for more of that. Adding a light amount of EXP to to the EX battle pass isn't the same as simply asking for 'more' though. It's covering a sort of blind spot present in the current grind cycle without actually drawing away from potential revenue streams. (Being that most of the time, if people buy something its 10 rolls or the BP. Even PM understands this considering their decision to make it so seasonal IDs have a week cooldown before you can shard them.)

Got it. In that, i concure

Originally posted by Demonking:

What you're asking for is a future no one in their right mind would use considering at BEST you could hope for giving up yellow boxes for 5 threads a pop, but each of those yellow boxes are infinitely more valuable than those 5 threads. As I said before, if you need threads you can get 315 a week just by skipping your daily thread laxuractives. 1260 a month. The literal only reason I'm not at 5,000+ right now is I recently accidentally got 200 shards for Royshu and went through tiering all of her egos up 4.

And yet, here i am, wishing for a way to exchange 1 box for 5 thread, minimum obiously, lower than that isnt worth it
The set up you point out is the "Best case escenario"
For example, i ONLY open the game 1 a day for 1 hours, more times on week ends
Reasons are Time and that i share this PC
Meaning i Cant log in whenever i want.
Maybe you can, i dont, thus i only get the a +2-3 extra modules per day (1 lunacy refresh) after ALL dailies done manualy, and in week ends i do dungeon, if i am lucky or motivated maybe even 3 MD runs before Monday.

My point, Most player do casual play, log in once, get modules, use lunacy refresh 1-2 times, skip dailies and do 1 dungeon per week.
Most people will be around level 70-90, meaning they varely brake even per week, and there is the XP issue you mention, 1 Daily just dont cover much, specially as the roster increases and the levels too, so any extra is expend on boxes for new player and XP for older players

[jobhobster]

KJ did mentioned MD missions on stream, maybe that's how they will implement MD giving threads and tickets.

[Silver l>>>]

Originally posted by jobhobster:

KJ did mentioned MD missions on stream, maybe that's how they will implement MD giving threads and tickets.

I still dont get missions
We have the Dungeon, we have dailies
Why people want more especific requirements daily than actually having events like walpipi missions request, most other games have this missions WITH the event and the shop
WHY on Weekly MD!?

[Demonking]

Originally posted by Silver l>>>:

Originally posted by Demonking:

I disagree with the idea that its unreasonable to ask for 'more'. Yes we get plenty of boxes and lunacy from mirror dungeon. I'd never reasonable think to ask for more of that. Adding a light amount of EXP to to the EX battle pass isn't the same as simply asking for 'more' though. It's covering a sort of blind spot present in the current grind cycle without actually drawing away from potential revenue streams. (Being that most of the time, if people buy something its 10 rolls or the BP. Even PM understands this considering their decision to make it so seasonal IDs have a week cooldown before you can shard them.)

Got it. In that, i concure

Originally posted by Demonking:

What you're asking for is a future no one in their right mind would use considering at BEST you could hope for giving up yellow boxes for 5 threads a pop, but each of those yellow boxes are infinitely more valuable than those 5 threads. As I said before, if you need threads you can get 315 a week just by skipping your daily thread laxuractives. 1260 a month. The literal only reason I'm not at 5,000+ right now is I recently accidentally got 200 shards for Royshu and went through tiering all of her egos up 4.

And yet, here i am, wishing for a way to exchange 1 box for 5 thread, minimum obiously, lower than that isnt worth it
The set up you point out is the "Best case escenario"
For example, i ONLY open the game 1 a day for 1 hours, more times on week ends
Reasons are Time and that i share this PC
Meaning i Cant log in whenever i want.
Maybe you can, i dont, thus i only get the a +2-3 extra modules per day (1 lunacy refresh) after ALL dailies done manualy, and in week ends i do dungeon, if i am lucky or motivated maybe even 3 MD runs before Monday.

My point, Most player do casual play, log in once, get modules, use lunacy refresh 1-2 times, skip dailies and do 1 dungeon per week.
Most people will be around level 70-90, meaning they varely brake even per week, and there is the XP issue you mention, 1 Daily just dont cover much, specially as the roster increases and the levels too, so any extra is expend on boxes for new player and XP for older players

I will admit, you said like you're uniquely bad off in terms of your ability to maximize things. I wouldn't claim you're 'most' people by any stretch of the imagination. I log into it once when I get up and once when I go to bed, and even in the situation someone doesn't always have access to a computer they can typically log in via phone to grab the extra energy. I do feel bad that you're in that situation of course, but it just kind of sounds like you're a little screwed over rather than it being an inherent problem.

[Silver l>>>]

Originally posted by Demonking:

I will admit, you said like you're uniquely bad off in terms of your ability to maximize things. I wouldn't claim you're 'most' people by any stretch of the imagination. I log into it once when I get up and once when I go to bed, and even in the situation someone doesn't always have access to a computer they can typically log in via phone to grab the extra energy. I do feel bad that you're in that situation of course, but it just kind of sounds like you're a little screwed over rather than it being an inherent problem.

Tankhs for the sentiment, not to worry
yet, Is the mobile version stable now?
i always keep hearing how it bugs out, closes by itself, or just dosnt work even at lower settings, that is why i dont even go close the mobile one
that and my phone is literally discontinued tech by 3 years