Regarding the upcoming update and the anti-cheat of it.

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Personally, I am not sure what is the point of adding an anti-cheat to a singleplayer game, the said anti-cheat is Battleye which was noted to do some weird things, like scanning your memory and sending IP stuff, the question should be more of "Why?" rather than "Why not?" concidering that methods to take care of anti auto-farming were already put in place. What are the thoughts of community of that?

[SmallGespenst]

The Why is pretty easy to speculate on, it'd be the same "Why" as to the security stuff that got patched in, then out a week later; to deal with Macro abuse since essentially the one downside to the extremely generous MD grinding is the time of active playing required to make use of it, which is alleviated by macros, hence the handful of people that maxed out the BP level which needed an emergency patch to address.

[lumpy_]

I see a lot of claims about multiplayer... which an anti-cheat would be good if the devs ever included leaderboards. Also, friend system and using your friend's units... don't want people sharing around IDs that are at an impossible level (though I haven't seen anything like this happen, but it may happen in the future or even never now that battleye will be in place.)

They also probably wouldn't want people figuring out how to obtain identities without using the in-game gacha/systems so there really is not a single issue about having an anti-cheat

[Reptiloid]

Boi, Battleye has a long way down the line of programs that scan your pc/user data. I mean, if you use chrome, then battleye should be the last thing you worry about. The worst thing that can happen is the user data leak imo, but no software is protected from that. Though, not a cybersecurity specialist, jsut impressions.

[Lycan]

Цитата допису lumpy_:

I see a lot of claims about multiplayer... which an anti-cheat would be good if the devs ever included leaderboards. Also, friend system and using your friend's units... don't want people sharing around IDs that are at an impossible level (though I haven't seen anything like this happen, but it may happen in the future or even never now that battleye will be in place.)

This is almost impossible to do. Limbus, like other games, is server-sided, meaning aside from the in-game battle, everything is handled by servers.
You cannot just hack currency. The server will just update your currency every time you buy something. You can't hack your Identity as well. And you want to hack the server? You think you are good enough to bypass Google, or Amazon, or not get detected and be thrown into jails?
The only thing Battleeye can do for Limbus is preventing macro, and... stop people using tools like Cheat Engine to speed up combat animation. I do not even know why PM makes a fuss about that either. Isn't it already capped by enkephalin (gacha's energy system)?

P/s: you can hack lunacy IF you rewrite the whole application to a private server like Genshin Impact. That just means you make it into an offline game.

[Shevek]

As long as it doesn't affect performance, I don't care. People screaming about their precious data should be WAY more concerned about their browser, google and social media since that's were the good and valuable data is harvested from.

About it being a single player game and therefore not needing anti-cheat: guys remember this is an always online gacha game, they will obviously fight against cheating (like what happened with macros), specially because this is a very rare case (maybe the only one) in which you can virtually farm for every single gacha character and "equipment" using your free stamina.

[Lycan]

Цитата допису Reptiloid:

Boi, Battleye has a long way down the line of programs that scan your pc/user data. I mean, if you use chrome, then battleye should be the last thing you worry about. The worst thing that can happen is the user data leak imo, but no software is protected from that. Though, not a cybersecurity specialist, jsut impressions.

If you use your PC normally then it's fine. But I am using external drive in a crappy 5 year-old laptop so it will trigger Windows Defender to do some stupid shet and I will say goodbye to 2 GB RAM. Sgh....

Цитата допису Shevek:

you can virtually farm for every single gacha character and "equipment" using your free stamina.

Stamina (Enkephellin) is not free. It costs 26 Lunacy. This game is not Genshin Impact.

[Zalgo]

Цитата допису Lycan:

Цитата допису Reptiloid:

Boi, Battleye has a long way down the line of programs that scan your pc/user data. I mean, if you use chrome, then battleye should be the last thing you worry about. The worst thing that can happen is the user data leak imo, but no software is protected from that. Though, not a cybersecurity specialist, jsut impressions.

If you use your PC normally then it's fine. But I am using external drive in a crappy 5 year-old laptop so it will trigger Windows Defender to do some stupid shet and I will say goodbye to 2 GB RAM. Sgh....

Цитата допису Shevek:

you can virtually farm for every single gacha character and "equipment" using your free stamina.

Stamina (Enkephellin) is not free. It costs 26 Lunacy....

When Lunacy is better spent to farm MDs over actually pulling, then your stamina might as well be free since you have an infinite gen of Lunacy over the week with one stam reset a day.

[Shevek]

Цитата допису Lycan:

Цитата допису lumpy_:

I see a lot of claims about multiplayer... which an anti-cheat would be good if the devs ever included leaderboards. Also, friend system and using your friend's units... don't want people sharing around IDs that are at an impossible level (though I haven't seen anything like this happen, but it may happen in the future or even never now that battleye will be in place.)

This is almost impossible to do. Limbus, like other games, is server-sided, meaning aside from the in-game battle, everything is handled by servers.
You cannot just hack currency. The server will just update your currency every time you buy something. You can't hack your Identity as well. And you want to hack the server? You think you are good enough to bypass Google, or Amazon, or not get detected and be thrown into jails?
The only thing Battleeye can do for Limbus is preventing macro, and... stop people using tools like Cheat Engine to speed up combat animation. I do not even know why PM makes a fuss about that either. Isn't it already capped by enkephalin (gacha's energy system)?

P/s: you can hack lunacy IF you rewrite the whole application to a private server like Genshin Impact. That just means you make it into an offline game.

" Isn't it already capped by enkephalin (gacha's energy system)?" The real cap is time commitment, with the free stamina+ maybe some refills you can get everything in the game or at least most stuff. That's why they are so concerned about the macro usage and speeding through cheat engine. The alternative would be really limiting the shard farming putting limits to MD farming, limiting drastically the amount of modules you can have or using other ways to hard limit the amount of shards you can farm. I rather take an anti cheat than the alternative.

TLDR: Tediousness and time constraints are the real limits to shard farming, that's why they don't want you to macro.

[Shevek]

Цитата допису Lycan:

Цитата допису Reptiloid:

Boi, Battleye has a long way down the line of programs that scan your pc/user data. I mean, if you use chrome, then battleye should be the last thing you worry about. The worst thing that can happen is the user data leak imo, but no software is protected from that. Though, not a cybersecurity specialist, jsut impressions.

If you use your PC normally then it's fine. But I am using external drive in a crappy 5 year-old laptop so it will trigger Windows Defender to do some stupid shet and I will say goodbye to 2 GB RAM. Sgh....

Цитата допису Shevek:

you can virtually farm for every single gacha character and "equipment" using your free stamina.

Stamina (Enkephellin) is not free. It costs 26 Lunacy. This game is not Genshin Impact.

Ehm what does Genshin has to do with anything? BTW in Genshin refills are also a thing lmao

and again: with the free enke you can get most of the stuff or even everything you weren't able to get from gacha. The real limit is how time consuming and boring MD farming is.

[mikufanboy]

It's most likely because there are people that have popularized hacking apks and giving themselves infinite health, lunacy, whatever, in their own instance. This has happened to many gatcha games in secret as android games are very easy to break into. I'm not quite sure if this will actually accomplish something though as battle eye is kinda child's play for hacker circles at this point, just look at the state of Escape from tarkov or battlefield. It still does run the question of what their goal is though. Is this to prevent sending too many requests to their servers? Is it just to collect diagnostic data over unusual gameplay? All things considered this is a free single player game and the people that cheat will not be using their money most likely so I do have to wonder still myself as I doubt it's to prevent actual cheating.

[Last]

I'm definitely dissapointed about it, not only is it a bad anti cheat there's also a lot of rumors about it collecting more data than its supposed to, i think its the worst popular AC there is.

[Reptiloid]

Цитата допису Lycan:

If you use your PC normally then it's fine. But I am using external drive in a crappy 5 year-old laptop so it will trigger Windows Defender to do some stupid shet and I will say goodbye to 2 GB RAM. Sgh....

Okay. I am just having a hard time understanding what's the problem of ppl who complain? That one of many apps scans your pc. That it will eat up extra memory? Or just not wanting to install the anti cheat. All the options are not pleasant, but these programs are nothing out of ordinary today. I mean, if the real problem for the folks is scanning of your pc, then wake up call, it's not 2000's anymore.

[A Wispy Willy]

Цитата допису Lycan:

Цитата допису lumpy_:

I see a lot of claims about multiplayer... which an anti-cheat would be good if the devs ever included leaderboards. Also, friend system and using your friend's units... don't want people sharing around IDs that are at an impossible level (though I haven't seen anything like this happen, but it may happen in the future or even never now that battleye will be in place.)

This is almost impossible to do. Limbus, like other games, is server-sided, meaning aside from the in-game battle, everything is handled by servers.
You cannot just hack currency. The server will just update your currency every time you buy something. You can't hack your Identity as well. And you want to hack the server? You think you are good enough to bypass Google, or Amazon, or not get detected and be thrown into jails?
The only thing Battleeye can do for Limbus is preventing macro, and... stop people using tools like Cheat Engine to speed up combat animation. I do not even know why PM makes a fuss about that either. Isn't it already capped by enkephalin (gacha's energy system)?

P/s: you can hack lunacy IF you rewrite the whole application to a private server like Genshin Impact. That just means you make it into an offline game.

It's not at all impossible. FF Brave Exvius used to have a giant loophole that allowed any item in the game to be given out as a Trust Mastery bonus reward.

Developers cut corners all the time, and people willing to cheat in a game will use that to do so.

[SmallGespenst]

Цитата допису Last:

I'm definitely dissapointed about it, not only is it a bad anti cheat there's also a lot of rumors about it collecting more data than its supposed to, i think its the worst popular AC there is.

You must be new here, Denuvo gathers much more hate, to the point that any game with it will have at least one "Denuvo bad" thread running at all times.

[Last]

Цитата допису SmallGespenst:

Цитата допису Last:

I'm definitely dissapointed about it, not only is it a bad anti cheat there's also a lot of rumors about it collecting more data than its supposed to, i think its the worst popular AC there is.

You must be new here, Denuvo gathers much more hate, to the point that any game with it will have at least one "Denuvo bad" thread running at all times.

Denuvo gathering more hate doesn't mean battleye isn't bad. From what i've gathered people generally complain more about Denuvo since there's proof on youtube that it actually impacts your performance and loading times.