Battleye getting added

[Urmanin]

I'm going to distort. Get me off this bus right now

[Shevek]

Originally posted by Sleekie:

Originally posted by Shevek:

This is what I was about to say. It's "easy" to bypass, yes, but using paid hacks than most people won't go around to find and that's if they get to be developed and available to buy. Way more secure than a game that can be manipulated through cheat engine or by simply using macros. I'm not a fan myself of root level anti cheat software but I totally get why the devs use them. What's the alternative btw? Easy Anti Cheat? Still root level stuff lol

Emulators are not paid hacks. For that matter, Cheat Engine is not a paid hack.

You are missing my point here: BattleEye keeps people from using cheat engine and emulators are another totally different story, you can macro on them for sure but the macros you can make on emulators (at least the ones you make by using the emulator app) are waaay less capable than what you can do by using macros+ bots+ cheat engine and whatever else on the unprotected PC client.

[gold]

Originally posted by Shevek:

Originally posted by Sleekie:

Emulators are not paid hacks. For that matter, Cheat Engine is not a paid hack.

You are missing my point here: BattleEye keeps people from using cheat engine and emulators are another totally different story, you can macro on them for sure but the macros you can make on emulators (at least the ones you make by using the emulator app) are waaay less capable than what you can do by using macros+ bots+ cheat engine and whatever else on the unprotected PC client.

Any macros/bots that work on PC before this update will work with very little tweaking on a full screen Android emulator. If the goal is to just remove Cheat Engine, it's extremely heavy-handed and simple data tracking and keeping most data server side (which I would hope they would do anyways) would accomplish the goal without possibly locking out Linux/Steam Deck users as a consequence. (Battleye does have Linux support but its opt-in, I guess we'll see?)

Imo its a single player gacha where even the friends list is lacking support for names, I understand the need to protect your game but I personally have zero interest in giving a relatively new video game company kernel level access to my system through Battleye which doesn't have an insanely high success rate in protection without something else to support it.

I will be either moving to an emulator or I will stop playing this game when the update drops. Shame.

[Yerc2]

Is BattleEye like some kind of malware that pays to have developers put it in their games?

[Lucky Thirteen]

Tbh I'm just happy they didn't go with Easy Anti-Cheat.
From my understanding, only the Steam version will require BattlEye, so you can play on your phone/tablet or an Emulator

[Zalgo]

Originally posted by Lucky Thirteen:

Tbh I'm just happy they didn't go with Easy Anti-Cheat.
From my understanding, only the Steam version will require BattlEye, so you can play on your phone/tablet or an Emulator :tbpwink:

This is true, if you use an emulator or a mobile phone, you are good.

[Sovery_Simple]

Eh... it was nice being able to just launch it from steam.
Guess I'll have to go reinstall my newer emulator client and finally move all my stuff over onto it.

Kinda 50/50 on it.

[CarThief]

Hm, it sounds asinine and retarded on PM's part, but at the same time I'm not sure how bad it'd really be.

Security-wise, on our end, what's the difference even? Will it increase the odds our PCs get super-aids and die? Does it give pre-existing but dormant viruses a sudden entry into your critical components? Does it just make your PC die the moment you boot up your browser? Does it require any precautions so our PCs survive this atrocious malware?

I mean, to be honest, if I wanted my PC to get ultra-aids and die in the same day, I'd just go browse the internet without the protection of an Ad Blocker. Seriously, those things are required these days. Ads are FULL of viruses.

But uh, yeah... Is it really that bad? Or are we just looking at gameplay hitches, extra loading times, yada yada yada, the whole reason "Yarr Harr Fiddle De Dee" is so popular (you know, the P-word).

There's (understandable) outrage at PM's idiotic blunders, and there's legitimate security concerns for the average user. So I wonder which is it.

[A Wispy Willy]

I'm just chalking it up to people's paranoia. Yes, privacy is important. Most people also probably don't have as much as they think they do. It also only runs when you're running the game, so there's no concerns about when it's running.

As for it working in kernel, it has to. Any decent hack does the same in order to bypass anti-cheats, because it's incredibly difficult for one not executing in kernel mode to detect it.

[Zalgo]

Originally posted by A Wispy Willy:

I'm just chalking it up to people's paranoia. Yes, privacy is important. Most people also probably don't have as much as they think they do. It also only runs when you're running the game, so there's no concerns about when it's running.

As for it working in kernel, it has to. Any decent hack does the same in order to bypass anti-cheats, because it's incredibly difficult for one not executing in kernel mode to detect it.

People also should realize that Chrome already goes into your personal information as well, which a big majority of those who use the internet use as their browser.

Steam also happens to use Chromium as part of their back-end, which does go into your personal info as well. Privacy in this current day and age is pretty much a facade. Only real way to be truly private is to go into the Deep Web and even that can be compromised thanks to hackers if you piss them off.

[Sofia]

Idiots actually be like "THIS SOFTWARE WANTS TO TRACK MY ACTIVITY!"

And then pick up their phone and check their email from it.

[16 TIMES THE MIN REQUIREMENTS!!!]

We have the Spyware/MinerScript apologist here as usual from the Bootlicker Community. Any form of DRM is never good for anything PC Related. Has been proven since forever. Yeah even Steam's lightweight DRM shouldn't be praised.

[Enova (She/Her)]

Remind me again when "Everyone else is doing it so you should too" became a valid reasoning for anything?

[carlosmunozale]

I don´t know if it is for the anti-cheat, but since this update the game puts a lot of strain in my computer, and it happens inmmediattely after I start it. In the main menu all my fans are at full speed the temperatures of muy GPU increase a lot . Does anyone know why is this?

I have been enjoying this game a lot but this issue annoys me, if this continues happening I don´t know if I want to play more.

[Zalgo]

Originally posted by carlosmunozale:

I don´t know if it is for the anti-cheat, but since this update the game puts a lot of strain in my computer, and it happens inmmediattely after I start it. In the main menu all my fans are at full speed the temperatures of muy GPU increase a lot . Does anyone know why is this?

I have been enjoying this game a lot but this issue annoys me, if this continues happening I don´t know if I want to play more.

Some theories went out that PM might have not added BattlEye to begin with since Steam doesn't notify you about BattlEye nor does the game. If that's the case, they might've backed out of it.

[carlosmunozale]

Originally posted by carlosmunozale:

I don´t know if it is for the anti-cheat, but since this update the game puts a lot of strain in my computer, and it happens inmmediattely after I start it. In the main menu all my fans are at full speed the temperatures of muy GPU increase a lot . Does anyone know why is this?

I have been enjoying this game a lot but this issue annoys me, if this continues happening I don´t know if I want to play more.

Changing the graphics back and forth fixed the problem for me.