How good is bygone days ishmael?

[A Terraria Mage]

Just wanting to know so I can decide to shard either bygone days or just wait and shard the upcoming zwei ishmael (I got another 400 shards)

[【Silver】]

Publicado originalmente por A Terraria Mage:

Also after double checking bygone costs 2 lust, 1 sloth, and 3 gloom. Butler Ish can not fuel it (sadly), actually, i dont think any ishmael id can fuel it solo. Off the top of my head I know that Ring Sang can fuel it (quite well) though, but I'd rather use solemn sang in a sinking team and pequod sang in a poise team.

Oh you are absolutely right, I don't know why I thought it was Gluttony instead of Lust...
She indeed does not have an ID that self-sufficiently fuels it then.

[A Terraria Mage]

Publicado originalmente por 【Silver】:

Publicado originalmente por A Terraria Mage:

Also after double checking bygone costs 2 lust, 1 sloth, and 3 gloom. Butler Ish can not fuel it (sadly), actually, i dont think any ishmael id can fuel it solo. Off the top of my head I know that Ring Sang can fuel it (quite well) though, but I'd rather use solemn sang in a sinking team and pequod sang in a poise team.

Oh you are absolutely right, I don't know why I thought it was Gluttony instead of Lust...
She indeed does not have an ID that self-sufficiently fuels it then.

Well, that’s what Erkliff, Butler outis, and edgar gregor are for ig

[Angela]

Good but not a must have, it main thing is a reliable way to gain wifi with OC version, atm wifi + Yi sang bygone days = OC Rime Shank broken, so having a sure way to gain it without having to wait for Outis S3 is rly nice.

Her other things for the EGO...is decent I guess. For resource, run her with Horse Man, his counter is a reliable way to gain lust because Sinking team ins't swimming with lust resource without him.

[SmallGespenst]

Publicado originalmente por Angela:

Good but not a must have, it main thing is a reliable way to gain wifi with OC version, atm wifi + Yi sang bygone days = OC Rime Shank broken, so having a sure way to gain it without having to wait for Outis S3 is rly nice.

Her other things for the EGO...is decent I guess. For resource, run her with Horse Man, his counter is a reliable way to gain lust because Sinking team ins't swimming with lust resource without him.

It's a really hard sell to overclock it though because 45 SP (30*1.5) is a painful cost.

[Angela]

Publicado originalmente por SmallGespenst:

It's a really hard sell to overclock it though because 45 SP (30*1.5) is a painful cost.

Ishmael Bygone Days? 20 SP or 30 for OC, it quite standard for TETH EGO
beside this is Sinking team, if said opponent have sanity they will clash worse than her
and Sinking team will prob have butler Faust as support passive and perhaps Base HL if team do not running Dieci HL.

Only issue is if other Ids is also spamming EGOs, but that still alight if they already in payoff mode as at that point Molar Ishmael doesnt rly need to clash with her Skill, she just need to hit em with S2>S3 or double S3.

[SmallGespenst]

Publicado originalmente por Angela:

Publicado originalmente por SmallGespenst:

It's a really hard sell to overclock it though because 45 SP (30*1.5) is a painful cost.

Ishmael Bygone Days? 20 SP or 30 for OC, it quite standard for TETH EGO
beside this is Sinking team, if said opponent have sanity they will clash worse than her
and Sinking team will prob have butler Faust as support passive and perhaps Base HL if team do not running Dieci HL.

Only issue is if other Ids is also spamming EGOs, but that still alight if they already in payoff mode as at that point Molar Ishmael doesnt rly need to clash with her Skill, she just need to hit em with S2>S3 or double S3.

the 30 cost for the corroded version isn't telling the full story because Overclocking multiplies that cost too. it should go without saying that an ID which needs to roll heads to win clashes does not want to be at zero SP, even with Butler Faust's support it's going to take her multiple turns to get out of the inconsistent clashing gutter (if she's double-slotting then it'll be 2-3 turns, but she probably won't because Sinking has a lot of really good IDs, making it more like 4-5 turns to get into consistent Sanity again.)

[Sergalius]

Publicado originalmente por SmallGespenst:

Publicado originalmente por Angela:

Ishmael Bygone Days? 20 SP or 30 for OC, it quite standard for TETH EGO
beside this is Sinking team, if said opponent have sanity they will clash worse than her
and Sinking team will prob have butler Faust as support passive and perhaps Base HL if team do not running Dieci HL.

Only issue is if other Ids is also spamming EGOs, but that still alight if they already in payoff mode as at that point Molar Ishmael doesnt rly need to clash with her Skill, she just need to hit em with S2>S3 or double S3.

the 30 cost for the corroded version isn't telling the full story because Overclocking multiplies that cost too. it should go without saying that an ID which needs to roll heads to win clashes does not want to be at zero SP, even with Butler Faust's support it's going to take her multiple turns to get out of the inconsistent clashing gutter (if she's double-slotting then it'll be 2-3 turns, but she probably won't because Sinking has a lot of really good IDs, making it more like 4-5 turns to get into consistent Sanity again.)

in MD runs it is fine.
When in RR you can have gimmicks to deal with it.
Overlclocking is good in end-game content.
RIME TSARINA Rodion still exist you know