WN buyer's remorse

[Reptiloid]

Title. Idk, the new sinking stuff does not do anything spectacular. I mean, it looks awesome, but new Yi Sang is not as good in MD as Spicebrush. In RR it barely did any damage, coming 4th on the list when I tested him. The new Gregor ego is kinda weird, I don't understand in what circumstance would I want to use it. The corrosion seems to do more AOE damage, but the need to corrode effectively means sabotaging your ID and team overall, as corrosion eats a lot of resources and sanity on the sinner. The awakening is useful only when you have 1 or 2 targets due to damage spread out, can't clash well enough, as the max value is pretty low, I figured it is more of a set up for Lament Yi Sang. And, well, all of that is not very spectacular imo. In comparison to what Philclair brought to the game and to the burn team.

So, yeah, I dunno what to do with them. They look cool, and I pulled them mostly for looks and fanservice, but after a bit of testing, they kinda feel meh. Maybe I am missing something.

Ryoshu is fine though, I like that one.

[Reptiloid]

|Revenge| eredeti hozzászólása:

Dieci hong lu also has sinking deluge, and is just better than spicebush since he actually inflicts lots of sinking count. The only thing spicebush has going on is evade but thats it.

No, he does not. Check the wiki or something,

[|Revenge|]

Reptiloid eredeti hozzászólása:

|Revenge| eredeti hozzászólása:

Dieci hong lu also has sinking deluge, and is just better than spicebush since he actually inflicts lots of sinking count. The only thing spicebush has going on is evade but thats it.

No, he does not. Check the wiki or something,

[On Hit] Cause Sinking DelugeSinking Deluge
At 2+ InsightInsight, increase damage caused due to Sinking DelugeSinking Deluge by (InsightInsight*10)%

Unless the Wiki i'm Reading has been vandalized yet again, he does have It on the last coin of his skill three

[Reptiloid]

|Revenge| eredeti hozzászólása:

Reptiloid eredeti hozzászólása:

No, he does not. Check the wiki or something,

[On Hit] Cause Sinking DelugeSinking Deluge
At 2+ InsightInsight, increase damage caused due to Sinking DelugeSinking Deluge by (InsightInsight*10)%

Unless the Wiki i'm Reading has been vandalized yet again, he does have It on the last coin of his skill three

Yep, this is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Probably from old wiki, that got vandalized. You should read stuff here:

https://limbuscompany.wiki.gg/wiki/Limbus_Company_Wiki

[|Revenge|]

Yeah Just Saw other sources, i Wonder why this Wiki is on the Very top of searches lol.

Anyway he doesn't have sinking Deluge, but Still gets a damage boost from sinking and has evade too. He is Just much better imo.

[Kildread]

|Revenge| eredeti hozzászólása:

Yeah Just Saw other sources, i Wonder why this Wiki is on the Very top of searches lol.

It's hosted on Fandom --- and that conglomerate's strength is intrusive ads & gaming SEO so it shows up on top. Wiki owners can't delete a wiki either. So it's been vandalized in a silly effort to make it irrevelant. Doesn't stop it showing up as the first result.

On it, Siltcurrent has too-many-coins on Blind Obsession XD

[Reptiloid]

Angela eredeti hozzászólása:

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Rupture is different, as it goes through all resistances, and is only buffed by fragile in terms of damage. Also, the new ego on Gregor doesn't take into account the reusable coin if I am not mistaken, so you can't throw it against something with a lots of coins. Like, idk, envy peccatulum on 30+ sanity that uses Rabbit Heath with QS in skill slot. I figured you either use it to generate more butterfly thing for Yi Sang, or use it after he generated more butterflies.

i dont even fragile affect it. but what i mean by that is their gameplan is pretty much the same if you were to play sinking with no deluge, just hit them with a lots of coins.

No, im talking about pay off for sinking count, you want those coins to burn though sinking count not to some team sinergy or whatever
Sinking planning so far is to carefull with sinking count up till deluge, with it out of question you can play more aggressively.

Ik it clash for ♥♥♥♥, but you dont need to clash, 1 side attack is an option and for envy peccatulum because its AoE so they dont need to clash, that and you playing around with clash prioritization to bypass clash all together, you know the trick, right?
>give greg that 2 speed buff
>let slower id than him clash the same target as him
>because greg is faster, he will attack, stagger them so they cant clash, now that slower id will finish them off

I think Fragile affects rupture, as it deals damage based on its count, so more fragile would do more damage, but, eh, needs verifying,

Okay, so it's like, damage ego based on sinking count and butterflies. I know about the clash thing, where you make stuff that is faster to do one sided attack and stuff that is slower to clash. I was just talking, idk, I didn't manage to squeeze much damage from it, rarely even above 100, even when I corrode as Bygone Days gregor on the same target beforehand, so I figured one would use it to set up butterflies for Yi Sang.

[Angela]

Reptiloid eredeti hozzászólása:

Rupture is different, as it goes through all resistances, and is only buffed by fragile in terms of damage. Also, the new ego on Gregor doesn't take into account the reusable coin if I am not mistaken, so you can't throw it against something with a lots of coins. Like, idk, envy peccatulum on 30+ sanity that uses Rabbit Heath with QS in skill slot. I figured you either use it to generate more butterfly thing for Yi Sang, or use it after he generated more butterflies.

Ik that but im talking about how they playout will be the same as sinking if sinking have no deluge, you just build up count/poten and hits them with a lot of coins when you think this is the time for pay off.

So far sinking playstle is all about carefull planning with count up till deluge ready, but with no deluge, they can just play more agresively, hit more with multi coins rather than saving it up, if rupture can do the same and still be very much viable if wasnt for their id ins't a piece of ♥♥♥♥. you can do the same with sinking just need to change mindset about sinking with no deluge.

Ik it clash for ♥♥♥♥, but you dont need to clash, 1 side attack is an option and for envy peccatulum because its AoE so they dont need to clash, that and you can playing around with clash prioritization to bypass clash all together, you know the trick, right?
>give greg that 2 speed buff
>let slower id than him clash the same target as him
>because greg is faster, he will attack first, stagger them so they cant clash, now that slower id will finish them off

[Angela]

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lol

[Sham!]

wasnt even reading and yi sang consistently chunked dmg with no dedicated support

[Zalgo]

I have no clue what you mean. My Yi Sang has been incredibly strong, hitting 1st on damage on 4th slot prio in MD. Butterfly chunks enemies hardcore, especially with S3 in play.

Solemn Gregor is Solemn Delete, it just is xD. Did 900 damage to Nelly at one point with it.

[Birp]

Solemn Gregor is pretty darn good. It does like 64 damage minimum, rolling all tails, but the average is prob 100+ with a mix of heads and tails.

7 cost ego that hits for 100+ damage. If it hits one target, that's insane value, but if its spread across multiple targets... well, it still has good cost: damage ratio when compared to other 6-8 cost egos.

So the damage is great, but it also inflicts a ton of butterflies. I'm not sure yet about how much utility value we can place on that, it's like 1 sp heal on hit for everyone & a bit of gloom damage, but it's still worth something.

The downside, of course, is that this ego doesn't clash very well. But eh overall I still think it's a very solid HE EGO that fills a niche (high single target... or psuedo-single target damage) that most EGOs aren't good at.

[Reptiloid]

Angela eredeti hozzászólása:

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lol

What the hell? Where my post go? I didnt delete anything.

[Angela]

Reptiloid eredeti hozzászólása:

I think Fragile affects rupture, as it deals damage based on its count, so more fragile would do more damage, but, eh, needs verifying,

Okay, so it's like, damage ego based on sinking count and butterflies. I know about the clash thing, where you make stuff that is faster to do one sided attack and stuff that is slower to clash. I was just talking, idk, I didn't manage to squeeze much damage from it, rarely even above 100, even when I corrode as Bygone Days gregor on the same target beforehand, so I figured one would use it to set up butterflies for Yi Sang.

Not just sinking count and butterflies, but sinking count, sinking potency, and butterflies
pretty much same way as how ppl will play rupture but with butterflies, build up high count/potency and hit them many, many times.

Also, envy guys ins't rly a good comparasion since you cant build up sinking effectivly when you faces againts 6 of them, and they are dies too fast for you to build up sinking anyway
only good thing is AoE but ♥♥♥♥ sinking for single target dmg.

[fliesabove78]

You can set up some pretty high damage with Gregor's new ego as long you do some set up.

rr4: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199496873841/screenshot/2386432895661131232/

MD: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199496873841/screenshot/2386432895660918421/

[Reptiloid]

fliesabove78 eredeti hozzászólása:

You can set up some pretty high damage with Gregor's new ego as long you do some set up.

rr4: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199496873841/screenshot/2386432895661131232/

MD: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199496873841/screenshot/2386432895660918421/

Can you explain how? More or less.