does unique carge count towards charge teams and charge ego gift ?

[syave]

i wanna get red eyes ryoshu when it comes out so i wanna know if its worth it for my current charge team

[SmallGespenst]

that's kinda the point of unique status effects, the concept was introduced so Magic Bullet Outis would be usable in Burn teams despite having very limited Burn.
But Ryoshu has one of the best Charge IDs in the game so it's still a tough sell to not use W Ryoshu in any charge team.

[syave]

Originally posted by SmallGespenst:

that's kinda the point of unique status effects, the concept was introduced so Magic Bullet Outis would be usable in Burn teams despite having very limited Burn.
But Ryoshu has one of the best Charge IDs in the game so it's still a tough sell to not use W Ryoshu in any charge team.

got it

[SIGNAL]

Most Charge ego gifts will receive an update to allow for Unique Charge

The patch notes do state that the following will NOT count for Unique Charge (I have added effects for reference as to what they do):
Nightvision Goggles (when above 15+ charge count, spend 3 charge count and gain 5 offense level)
Lightning Rod (start with X charge count, gain Y charge count instead if two or more allies have envy skills)
Material Interference Force Field (all allies gain X charge barrier)
UPS System (when below X charge count, gain charge count. else, gain damage up)

Not sure why Force Field is an exception to Unique Charge, considering it never required Charge in the first place

[Angela]

The problem lies with her sins afinity and the fact that she ins't a W Corp id

If you run a charge team, you will probably run multi crack Faust and W Outism
Therein lies the problem, Multi crack Faust can buff Envy skills so she can buff W Ryo Nuke S3 but Ryoshu new id have Lust as her nuke skill, meanwhile buff from Outism wants Envy Reson to she can spread it to more Charge ids as well as it will work 2x better for W Corp id than to non W Corp id.

So with those 3 considerations, Ryoshu's new “charge” id is already fighting an uphill battle against W Ryoshu, she needs to be much better than W Ryoshu to replace her in min max Charge team.

[Ortaign]

While Warp Ryoshu exists, Red Eyes Ryoshu just won't be a worthwhile option for a charge team unless something massively changes and there's a real possibility that it might, won't happen any time soon though

[Prabs Prettypaws]

Get her because she's cool, OP, then figure out a use case afterward.

I for one welcome any ID that doesn't fit neatly into The Meta™.

Originally posted by SIGNAL:

Not sure why Force Field is an exception to Unique Charge, considering it never required Charge in the first place

I guess because Charge Barrier converts to Charge at turn end? I don't get it either.

[Minh]

Yes.

[Joshua Kurayami]

I like how everyone's only comparing R corp Rhino Ryoshu as a charge unit even though, y'know, bleed.

[Angela]

Originally posted by Joshua Kurayami:

I like how everyone's only comparing R corp Rhino Ryoshu as a charge unit even though, y'know, bleed.

Because no one asked about Bleed team

>i wanna know if its worth it for my current charge team

[Caxapok]

Originally posted by Miss Prettypaws, if you're nasty:

Get her because she's cool, OP, then figure out a use case afterward.

I for one welcome any ID that doesn't fit neatly into The Meta™.

Meta? Dont remember when i used 'meta' team in past...maybe season 1 cuz few Ids...but using only 'meta' is boring and they are not so OP

I used Ring Yi Sang maybe twice after release xD, Cing clair replaced Nclair cuz he is strong, last used Nclair maybe in season 2 or in RR4 vs Nclair for fun xD. And others...

I like to have my unique weird playstyle rather then just 'win rate'

And W Ryo is...(i hate her s1)

[ChaoticMentality]

she has built in group heal that is powered by charge and resonances and given the shield shes probably a more effective tank for charge than warp mersault and best chance to get recovery without fluid sack if you want to try telepole faust
probably see more use as a charge unit than anything else considering bleed dont work until its count messiah comes in

[SmallGespenst]

Originally posted by ChaoticMentality:

she has built in group heal that is powered by charge and resonances and given the shield shes probably a more effective tank for charge than warp mersault and best chance to get recovery without fluid sack if you want to try telepole faust
probably see more use as a charge unit than anything else considering bleed dont work until its count messiah comes in

uh, Bleed count isn't a huge issue any more, you just need to use some 00s since Ring Outis and Hook Hong Lu have some of the better sources of Bleed count, with their S2s having up to 5 and 4 Count application respectively.