Chapter 7 Act 2 - What was found out so far

[NetMoverSitan]

It was hinted by these rivers, one of which was flowing under Wuthering Heights, when they converged...it was hinted that it might be where the Golden Boughs came from, although it's light on detail and so it's not confirmed.

It's now revealed that Don Quixote is actually Sancho, so her ZAYIN E.G.O. makes even more sense and that the real Don Quixote (a First Kindred) wanted her to dream in his stead, this will likely lead to the story dungeon as the Golden Bough is in him.

Jia Xichun made it clear that her siblings would normally try to kill each other, except for Hong Lu as he sucks at being treacherous and so is the safest to team up with, that will certainly set the scene for when Hong Lu's story arrives, N Corp probably stopped Jia Huan from killing Hong Lu in a permanent way as if he had an opportunity and wasn't prevented from taking it, he'd take it, at least that's what Jia Xichun implied.

As for Camille, the backstabbing Cinq Association Fixer, we know that he sold the Fanghunt Office out, but it's unclear at this point, if he's still human or he did what Sasha did and became a Bloodfiend. All we know is that he'll likely live long enough to be made to regret his decision...especially if he has a duel with 2nd Kindred Don Quixote, who will likely be more competent than she was last time.

[Sergalius]

Originally posted by NetMoverSitan:

It was hinted by these rivers, one of which was flowing under Wuthering Heights, when they converged...it was hinted that it might be where the Golden Boughs came from, although it's light on detail and so it's not confirmed.

It's now revealed that Don Quixote is actually Sancho, so her ZAYIN E.G.O. makes even more sense and that the real Don Quixote (a First Kindred) wanted her to dream in his stead, this will likely lead to the story dungeon as the Golden Bough is in him.

Jia Xichun made it clear that her siblings would normally try to kill each other, except for Hong Lu as he sucks at being treacherous and so is the safest to team up with, that will certainly set the scene for when Hong Lu's story arrives, N Corp probably stopped Jia Huan from killing Hong Lu in a permanent way as if he had an opportunity and wasn't prevented from taking it, he'd take it, at least that's what Jia Xichun implied.

As for Camille, the backstabbing Cinq Association Fixer, we know that he sold the Fanghunt Office out, but it's unclear at this point, if he's still human or he did what Sasha did and became a Bloodfiend. All we know is that he'll likely live long enough to be made to regret his decision...especially if he has a duel with 2nd Kindred Don Quixote, who will likely be more competent than she was last time.

Dont forget that it is hinted that Knight of White moon is young Blue colour.
Rivers can be on the place of former Lobotomy expansions.
it was transformed during the Cascade event(heh), something like that.
Btw tags in the game are a bit broken( perhaps) our lady D is tagged as second Kinred.
Which is strange. it can be that DON aka sancho is the first BF and she created them. and real Don quixote is a third kinred.
She is Arcueid after all.
Plus we have the theme of Forest. Basically Knight of white moon found the Sancho in black forest?

[NetMoverSitan]

Originally posted by Sergalius:

Originally posted by NetMoverSitan:

It was hinted by these rivers, one of which was flowing under Wuthering Heights, when they converged...it was hinted that it might be where the Golden Boughs came from, although it's light on detail and so it's not confirmed.

It's now revealed that Don Quixote is actually Sancho, so her ZAYIN E.G.O. makes even more sense and that the real Don Quixote (a First Kindred) wanted her to dream in his stead, this will likely lead to the story dungeon as the Golden Bough is in him.

Jia Xichun made it clear that her siblings would normally try to kill each other, except for Hong Lu as he sucks at being treacherous and so is the safest to team up with, that will certainly set the scene for when Hong Lu's story arrives, N Corp probably stopped Jia Huan from killing Hong Lu in a permanent way as if he had an opportunity and wasn't prevented from taking it, he'd take it, at least that's what Jia Xichun implied.

As for Camille, the backstabbing Cinq Association Fixer, we know that he sold the Fanghunt Office out, but it's unclear at this point, if he's still human or he did what Sasha did and became a Bloodfiend. All we know is that he'll likely live long enough to be made to regret his decision...especially if he has a duel with 2nd Kindred Don Quixote, who will likely be more competent than she was last time.

Dont forget that it is hinted that Knight of White moon is young Blue colour.
Rivers can be on the place of former Lobotomy expansions.
it was transformed during the Cascade event(heh), something like that.
Btw tags in the game are a bit broken( perhaps) our lady D is tagged as second Kinred.
Which is strange. it can be that DON aka sancho is the first BF and she created them. and real Don quixote is a third kinred.
She is Arcueid after all.
Plus we have the theme of Forest. Basically Knight of white moon found the Sancho in black forest?

Cassetti saw her as a 2nd Kindred, it shouldn't be possible to be able to fake that, only suppress it to pass for human. The Real Don Quixote (the one with the Golden Bough in him) is a 1st Kindred and made her (e.g. Sancho) a 2nd Kindred.

As for river convergence points being locations of Lobotomy Corporation branch facilities as in where the Golden Boughs were found, it would explain the locations.

[Sergalius]

Originally posted by NetMoverSitan:

Originally posted by Sergalius:

Dont forget that it is hinted that Knight of White moon is young Blue colour.
Rivers can be on the place of former Lobotomy expansions.
it was transformed during the Cascade event(heh), something like that.
Btw tags in the game are a bit broken( perhaps) our lady D is tagged as second Kinred.
Which is strange. it can be that DON aka sancho is the first BF and she created them. and real Don quixote is a third kinred.
She is Arcueid after all.
Plus we have the theme of Forest. Basically Knight of white moon found the Sancho in black forest?

Cassetti saw her as a 2nd Kindred, it shouldn't be possible to be able to fake that, only suppress it to pass for human. The Real Don Quixote (the one with the Golden Bough in him) is a 1st Kindred and made her (e.g. Sancho) a 2nd Kindred.

As for river convergence points being locations of Lobotomy Corporation branch facilities as in where the Golden Boughs were found, it would explain the locations.

But game LITERALLY TAGGED Del as second kinred. as barber as third Kinred
???
Casseti can mistake her for Delcinea
After all Delcinea is a concept of Fair lady. she should not exist xD.. IT CAN BE DON EGO MUHAHAHAHAHA( joking)
So it is a question from PM part

[jobhobster]

Psure it goes like
Ancestor - The Don Quixote - Sancho & Dulcenia
Because both of them are Second Kindreds, and both of them were the most dear to book Don Quixote, so it would make sense. Maybe Barber is one of Kindreds of Dulcenia, because Barber Outis story shows them being pretty close.
And Knight of White Moon is person who becomes Bookhunter in bad ending of LoR. It seems like if this doesn't happens, he is simply a wanderer visiting different locations in the City and beyond, and one of his visits was to The Don Quixote. No idea if he was fighting The Don Quixote, or Sancho, but in the end they became friends, and it seems like it means actual friendship, I never noticed in him signs of being a Bloodfiend (unless he also hides it, but that's unlikely)

[Bakelith]

Originally posted by Sergalius:

Originally posted by NetMoverSitan:

Cassetti saw her as a 2nd Kindred, it shouldn't be possible to be able to fake that, only suppress it to pass for human. The Real Don Quixote (the one with the Golden Bough in him) is a 1st Kindred and made her (e.g. Sancho) a 2nd Kindred.

As for river convergence points being locations of Lobotomy Corporation branch facilities as in where the Golden Boughs were found, it would explain the locations.

But game LITERALLY TAGGED Del as second kinred. as barber as third Kinred
???
Casseti can mistake her for Delcinea
After all Delcinea is a concept of Fair lady. she should not exist xD.. IT CAN BE DON EGO MUHAHAHAHAHA( joking)
So it is a question from PM part

Each generation can only make 2 kindred (Moses said it), Sancho and Dulcinea are 2nd made from the 1st Kindred whose name we don't know (could be the real Don or not), Barber is 3rd and probably from Dulcinea.

[NetMoverSitan]

Originally posted by Bakelith:

Originally posted by Sergalius:

But game LITERALLY TAGGED Del as second kinred. as barber as third Kinred
???
Casseti can mistake her for Delcinea
After all Delcinea is a concept of Fair lady. she should not exist xD.. IT CAN BE DON EGO MUHAHAHAHAHA( joking)
So it is a question from PM part

Each generation can only make 2 kindred, Sancho and Dulcinea are 2nd made from the 1st Kindred whose name we don't know (could be the real Don or not), Barber is 3rd and probably from Dulcinea.

Except...there's the question of how there can be an elder in each district, the elder in District 12 is a confirmed 1st Kindred, although that doesn't mean that the others in the other districts are that as well.

[Sergalius]

Originally posted by Bakelith:

Originally posted by Sergalius:

But game LITERALLY TAGGED Del as second kinred. as barber as third Kinred
???
Casseti can mistake her for Delcinea
After all Delcinea is a concept of Fair lady. she should not exist xD.. IT CAN BE DON EGO MUHAHAHAHAHA( joking)
So it is a question from PM part

Each generation can only make 2 kindred (Moses said it), Sancho and Dulcinea are 2nd made from the 1st Kindred whose name we don't know (could be the real Don or not), Barber is 3rd and probably from Dulcinea.

thanks.

[A Terraria Mage]

Well, if don isn’t don. Is “don” getting a 0 sancho id post C7?

[Sergalius]

Originally posted by A Terraria Mage:

Well, if don isn’t don. Is “don” getting a 0 sancho id post C7?

She can not get sancho, because she is sancho - it is our game's timeline. Not Mirror world. if not some HF parralel world bla bla.
She can get the Don id. like she was the true arcueid and first BF

[Prabs Prettypaws]

Originally posted by NetMoverSitan:

Originally posted by Bakelith:

Each generation can only make 2 kindred, Sancho and Dulcinea are 2nd made from the 1st Kindred whose name we don't know (could be the real Don or not), Barber is 3rd and probably from Dulcinea.

Except...there's the question of how there can be an elder in each district, the elder in District 12 is a confirmed 1st Kindred, although that doesn't mean that the others in the other districts are that as well.

Kindred can only sire twice by the laws of their society. But the 1st Kindred were sired directly by the Progenitor, and for all we know, he's allowed to sire as many times as he wants just because he's the O.B.

[NetMoverSitan]

Originally posted by Prabs Prettypaws:

Originally posted by NetMoverSitan:

Except...there's the question of how there can be an elder in each district, the elder in District 12 is a confirmed 1st Kindred, although that doesn't mean that the others in the other districts are that as well.

Kindred can only sire twice by the laws of their society. But the 1st Kindred were sired directly by the Progenitor, and for all we know, he's allowed to sire as many times as he wants just because he's the O.B.

That would at least explain that part, as for this Progenitor, Nosferatu is a suspect for that, then again, it could be something completely unrelated.

[Prabs Prettypaws]

Originally posted by NetMoverSitan:

Originally posted by Prabs Prettypaws:

Kindred can only sire twice by the laws of their society. But the 1st Kindred were sired directly by the Progenitor, and for all we know, he's allowed to sire as many times as he wants just because he's the O.B.

That would at least explain that part, as for this Progenitor, Nosferatu is a suspect for that, then again, it could be something completely unrelated.

Correct, we don't know yet what's going on there. It might be more interesting not to know, but if and when it becomes important, I'm sure we'll get an answer.

[NetMoverSitan]

Originally posted by Prabs Prettypaws:

Originally posted by NetMoverSitan:

That would at least explain that part, as for this Progenitor, Nosferatu is a suspect for that, then again, it could be something completely unrelated.

Correct, we don't know yet what's going on there. It might be more interesting not to know, but if and when it becomes important, I'm sure we'll get an answer.

Whatever the origin of the Bloodfiends, I doubt that it'll be revealed in Chapter 7. Meanwhile...the others have the fact that they've been travelling with a Bloodfiend this whole time. Worst case scenario, Don Quixote will order Sancho to attack them.

[Prabs Prettypaws]

Originally posted by NetMoverSitan:

Originally posted by Prabs Prettypaws:

Correct, we don't know yet what's going on there. It might be more interesting not to know, but if and when it becomes important, I'm sure we'll get an answer.

Whatever the origin of the Bloodfiends, I doubt that it'll be revealed in Chapter 7.

Yeah, I don't think it'll suddenly become important in act 3. Especially since anything more powerful than the first-gen Kindred is way out of the Sinners' league.

Meanwhile...the others have the fact that they've been travelling with a Bloodfiend this whole time. Worst case scenario, Don Quixote will order Sancho to attack them.

I kind of doubt he'll do that, seeing as La Manchaland was his idea, and living peacefully with humans was his goal. But then again, it's possible he won't be given the choice. If Outis's UT story was any indication, his underlings are plotting against him.

[Sergalius]

Originally posted by NetMoverSitan:

Originally posted by Prabs Prettypaws:

Correct, we don't know yet what's going on there. It might be more interesting not to know, but if and when it becomes important, I'm sure we'll get an answer.

Whatever the origin of the Bloodfiends, I doubt that it'll be revealed in Chapter 7. Meanwhile...the others have the fact that they've been travelling with a Bloodfiend this whole time. Worst case scenario, Don Quixote will order Sancho to attack them.

Vergilius told about it beforehand.