Limbus Company

Limbus Company

Zen_Azusa Oct 30, 2024 @ 10:16pm
Are the rates really this bad?
I was saving for about a total of 130 pulls when I started
I literally got no 3 stars and only 2 EGOs of characters I don't even use or benefit from

EGO are 1.3% compared to 3 stars 2.9%? Is this even common for other players?

Sure you can say "Oh it's a gacha game it's RNG" but I rarely see rates this bad in other gacha games I've experienced. My experienced friends all told me the amount of pulls I had was fine enough (They got their in under 50 pulls so Im a bit salty about that)

Like seriously, 130 pulls and only 2 EGOs? Unfortunately I don't even use either character so those EGOs are basically worthless rn (Im using grip sinclair so good luck using other EGOs because haha funny corrosion RNG no thanks I'm not winning RNG with that gacha luck) and I don't even have Hong Lu build so his other EGO is getting benched for indefinite, not even a 2 star.

tl;dr you can say Im salty about literally getting luck diffed, but saving since i started the game just straight up feel disheartening especially when you can't even make use with much of the results.
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jobhobster Oct 30, 2024 @ 10:31pm 
Not really? I had a bunch of banners where I got 000 of banner in first ~3 ten rolls, often on first or second one. And also couple of times when I had to spend 10+ rolls for them. As with any casino it edges just right in favor of house, so you just got unlucky.
MotivatedBoi Oct 30, 2024 @ 10:40pm 
While I understand your frustration, it's not related to the gacha rates in this game. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that the gacha rates in this game are actually very good compared to almost any other gacha (with 1% chance for a 5☆ being a common practice).

Not getting any 5☆/000s is alright for any gacha and is just in bad luck. In your case, I'd even dare say you got too lucky for your own good, considering that you there is around an 82% chance to get a single EGO from 130 pulls. Even if you can't exactly use them right now, there will always be an opportunity to make them useful later :Roland:

P. S. If the EGO you got for Sinclair is Cavernous Wailing or Impending Day - it's better to equip it. Cavernous Wailing, despite the risk of corrosion, is so much better than his base EGO, while Impending Day never targets randomly unless you're at -45 SP and corroded.
Zen_Azusa Oct 30, 2024 @ 10:42pm 
Originally posted by MotivatedBoi:
While I understand your frustration, it's not related to the gacha rates in this game. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that the gacha rates in this game are actually very good compared to almost any other gacha (with 1% chance for a 5☆ being a common practice).

Not getting any 5☆/000s is alright for any gacha and is just in bad luck. In your case, I'd even dare say you got too lucky for your own good, considering that you there is around an 82% chance to get a single EGO from 130 pulls. Even if you can't exactly use them right now, there will always be an opportunity to make them useful later :Roland:

P. S. If the EGO you got for Sinclair is Cavernous Wailing or Impending Day - it's better to equip it. Cavernous Wailing, despite the risk of corrosion, is so much better than his base EGO, while Impending Day never targets randomly unless you're at -45 SP and corroded.
It's FaeLantern
Sailor Paladin Oct 30, 2024 @ 10:42pm 
Just really unlucky. Sorry.

In the future I recommend saving up to 200 (if you're going to save up at all), because, well, in case you are a lucklet, you can then spend 200 "ideality" to get the banner-specific id you're pulling for (if you don't get it in 200 pulls, which... gonna be honest - you usually do, anyway).
Zen_Azusa Oct 30, 2024 @ 10:47pm 
Originally posted by Sailor Paladin:
Just really unlucky. Sorry.

In the future I recommend saving up to 200 (if you're going to save up at all), because, well, in case you are a lucklet, you can then spend 200 "ideality" to get the banner-specific id you're pulling for (if you don't get it in 200 pulls, which... gonna be honest - you usually do, anyway).
How fast would it take to rack up 60 more pulls from 0? Would I have to buy the battle pass to salvage something? at Canto 5 and already losing clash with me 2 stars and underlevel
MotivatedBoi Oct 30, 2024 @ 10:54pm 
Originally posted by Zen_Akechi:
Originally posted by MotivatedBoi:
While I understand your frustration, it's not related to the gacha rates in this game. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that the gacha rates in this game are actually very good compared to almost any other gacha (with 1% chance for a 5☆ being a common practice).

Not getting any 5☆/000s is alright for any gacha and is just in bad luck. In your case, I'd even dare say you got too lucky for your own good, considering that you there is around an 82% chance to get a single EGO from 130 pulls. Even if you can't exactly use them right now, there will always be an opportunity to make them useful later :Roland:

P. S. If the EGO you got for Sinclair is Cavernous Wailing or Impending Day - it's better to equip it. Cavernous Wailing, despite the risk of corrosion, is so much better than his base EGO, while Impending Day never targets randomly unless you're at -45 SP and corroded.
It's FaeLantern

Oof, gotcha. Lantern is very good on Sinclair, it's just that his HE EGOs are dangerous to use with NClair in particular. Still, if you ever has issues where NClair gets to a high SP, Lantern could be used as a handy way to get him back into negatives.
jobhobster Oct 30, 2024 @ 10:55pm 
Originally posted by Zen_Akechi:
How fast would it take to rack up 60 more pulls from 0? Would I have to buy the battle pass to salvage something? at Canto 5 and already losing clash with me 2 stars and underlevel
BP actually allows you to ignore gacha for next half-a-year, because you will get triple amount of crates (used to get shards for getting IDs you want) after you reach 120 level. Good investment, if you plan to play for a while.
Also yeah, level your IDs, because each 3 levels of difference mean +1 Clash Power to your enemies, and C5 is kinda the point where game starts sending an actual enemies who can bruise you.
Sailor Paladin Oct 30, 2024 @ 10:57pm 
Originally posted by Zen_Akechi:
How fast would it take to rack up 60 more pulls from 0? Would I have to buy the battle pass to salvage something? at Canto 5 and already losing clash with me 2 stars and underlevel
... oof. Um...
1) Racking up 60 pulls can take a long time.
2) IF you're going to spend money on anything, and you want the best value for your buck - the pass is the way to go. Nothing else you can possibly buy comes even close.
3) "Underlevel" is the real issue here, if I'm entirely honest. 000s are usually better than 00s, but that isn't the case every single time or anything. I distinctly remember people clearing the game with base ids, just to prove this point.
You CAN buy xp tickets with real money, but it's much-much-much better (though, I bit time consuming) to just grind for those.
4) I'm not even sure you "can" salvage it, especially if you pulled for different banners or something. Just in the future - there's a little "ideality" thing in the bottom left corner (X\200). If the banner expires and you don't get to 200, you'll get X as much thread for your troubles, at least (so, 130, in your case). Which isn't nothing, especially early on.
Last edited by Sailor Paladin; Oct 30, 2024 @ 11:00pm
Sailor Paladin Oct 30, 2024 @ 10:58pm 
Originally posted by jobhobster:
BP actually allows you to ignore gacha for next half-a-year, because you will get triple amount of crates (used to get shards for getting IDs you want) after you reach 120 level.
Also, this, yeah.

This is how you "really" play this particular gacha. You just buy battle pass and you have, like, ~2000 crates if you just do your dailies and weeklies throughout the season just from the pass (well, depends on how hard PM delays the next season, I suppose).
I, personally, even spend lunacy every day to "refuel" (once, as the cost is progressive), so that I can do more grinding, if I so choose.
Last edited by Sailor Paladin; Oct 30, 2024 @ 11:05pm
Yuyukari Oct 30, 2024 @ 11:02pm 
in term of pity rate, kinda, cmiiw limbus doesn't have pity counter like that of arknights (pity increase after the 50th pull until it reach 100% before reset)
limbus instead have banner spark with Yi Sang ideality exchange after 200, which still pretty high, compared to Arknights 150 guarantee rate-up banner being pulled

the most ideal way to get new rate up IDs on limbus is to farm yellow crate and exchange it with sinner Egoshards and to save all your Lunacy for Walpurgis limited banner instead because you can't exchange sinner Egoshard with walpurgisnact debut ID or EGO until the next walpurgis banner open again

limbus rate is not the best, but at the same time it is one of the few gacha game where you can actually collect all character with minimum monetary investment and instead reward consistent daily farm and dungeon grind (other notable game was Punishing Gray Raven, Azurlane, and Arknights), but compared to them, limbus are much much lenient on grind because the game only have a few material to focus on (only thread, training ticket, and yellow crates)

tldr, save your premium for limited banner, and instead use crates to exchange egoshards with the ID you want, you had a whole season to grind until the new ID being locked from extract dispenser for another season
Last edited by Yuyukari; Oct 30, 2024 @ 11:03pm
Minh Oct 30, 2024 @ 11:42pm 
Yes.
Originally posted by Zen_Akechi:
EGO are 1.3% compared to 3 stars 2.9%?
Yes.
Originally posted by Zen_Akechi:
Is this even common for other players?
Yes.
Originally posted by Zen_Akechi:
Like seriously, 130 pulls and only 2 EGOs?
Yes.
Last edited by Minh; Oct 30, 2024 @ 11:44pm
Minh Oct 30, 2024 @ 11:44pm 
Originally posted by jobhobster:
Not really? I had a bunch of banners where I got 000 of banner in first ~3 ten rolls, often on first or second one. And also couple of times when I had to spend 10+ rolls for them. As with any casino it edges just right in favor of house, so you just got unlucky.
Yes.
Last edited by Minh; Oct 30, 2024 @ 11:46pm
|Revenge| Oct 31, 2024 @ 12:07am 
If you feel like spending money, but the pass, Just be warned that one of the announcers in It is by itself a spoiler to canto 7.
shadol Oct 31, 2024 @ 1:42am 
Idk, I usually get everything in less than 50 pulls. Sure, sometimes I don't get anything new in like 70 pulls but considering that Gacha in this game is completely optional if you have the time to farm MDs it's not that big of a deal honestly. Even moreso if you have a battlepass which is worth it even without 2 additional crates per lvl.
Mirth Oct 31, 2024 @ 2:32am 
Missing any 000 IDs in 130 pulls is unlucky, but not to a point of being unrealistic. My quick math say there's about 2.18% chance of it happening. So it's 1/46.

It's a bunch of conditional probablilities but it's fairly easy to calculate in spreadheet if you're interested. Chance for success, that is getting our 000 ID is 2.9% and it's constant regardless of number of rolls made. Chance to not get an 000 is thus 97.1% on each roll, and cumulative chance to fail is 97.1 * cumulative chance to fail from previous roll. A couple simple multiplications you put in a speadsheet and draw it out for 200 rows.

By the way, on avearge it should take a bit below 34 rolls to get an 000, but Limbus doesn't have any soft pity mechanism so outlier results like your's aren't all that rare.

If you buy battle pass, Instead of relying on gacha just run some Mirror Dungeons and shard whatever you want. It's way less headache than gambling. If you want to stay free to play rolling on for non-walpurgisnacht IDs once in a while gives you a bunch of extra shards, but it's probably best to do it once you have stockpile ready for next walpurgis.
Last edited by Mirth; Oct 31, 2024 @ 2:36am
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