Сharge team

[Randomer_Lay]

Yo it's me again. I want to ask which ids are VERY good for charge team.
Like R heathcliff or Multi, W Meursault or R one? Got R Ishmael today from ticket so yeah.

(Thanks)

[Randomer_Lay]

Originally posted by Orliminecraft:

Hi again
R Heath is barely charge so multi is better, still real good tho
R meursault but you need his regret EGO for him to do good

Top tiers are multicrack faust, W Don, W Ryoshu, R ish (Needs Uptie 4)
I'd also put W Yi Sang in there but he's more rupture focused then charge

Why does Meursault need regret ego?

[Minh]

Originally posted by Randomer_Lay:

Like R heathcliff or Multi, W Meursault or R one? Got R Ishmael today from ticket so yeah.

Latter. Heathcliff MultiCrack Office. Latter. Meursault R CORP..

[Angela]

Originally posted by Randomer_Lay:

Why does Meursault need regret ego?

Because His clash power are a bit ass except for S3, and that is with his con met
Nowdays if you see 000 ids with clash power lower than this:

S1: 12 power, S2: 16 power, S3: 16 power

They are in the red for in clash power. and 1 more thing, R meursault fit better in bleed team than in charge, no one cares about bleed count in charge team.

[Zilloy]

W outis is really good for charge. her S2 spread charge barrier which turns into charge at turn end and S3 gives load which boosts the damage of the nukes.

and of course the classic: W don and ryoshu.

R heath is NOT a charge id while multicrack gives "photoelectricity" which helps building charge to all units slower than him.

W meursalt has better synergy with W corp crew, but he's still pretty meh at best (terrible on <U4)

[Angela]

For the charge team, this is what your team loadout looks like assuming you won't be giving 2 slots to 1 id, including slot order:

https://imgur.com/a/Pyas9TC

>Heathcliff in the front is clear, all of his buffs are same turn buffs, so it helps to have him in the front.

>Faust's general position won't matter by much if she can't get a second attack slot, if she can get extra attack slot then she should be either in the front for MDH where you have an unlimited charges, or on the second place if you have her Hexnail EGOs, it can be quite usefull for charge if you runs her with W Ryoshu and Don, you're prob still better off to use her S2 if she on high charge poten/count but it help her a bit to secure her position as the second id.

>Ryoshu/Don. Ryoshu in front of Don is so that she can buff Don S3 with her S2, in event where you cant use Ryoshu S3 for whatever reason but can use Don S3, but both of them can swich position as Don can buff her as well, it doesnt really matter by much since both of them are slow and their dmg buff are on use effect.

>Outism main buff is on combat start so it will ignore slot order, while her charge barrier is on use effect but you only gain the charge count from barrier at turn end, so unless you plan to give her second slot, put her in back.

Put her in back so that Heathcliff>Faust>Ryoshu>Don can do Envy A Reson with their nukes, while Outis can safely buff them with her S3 but not breaking their A Reson.

>Ishmael is your filler id, shes good but she offers no support function (even Don and Ryoshu have support function) to the team. So you can Put her anywhere as long as she is not in the front, she can switch places with Outis.

I put her last to make it easier to swap her with someone else if I need too.

[Zilloy]

Originally posted by Angela:

For the charge team, this is what your team loadout looks like assuming you won't be giving 2 slots to 1 id, including slot order:

https://imgur.com/a/Pyas9TC

>Heathcliff in the front is clear, all of his buffs are same turn buffs, so it helps to have him in the front.

>Faust's general position won't matter by much if she can't get a second attack slot, if she can get extra attack slot then she should be either in the front for MDH where you have an unlimited charges, or on the second place if you have her Hexnail EGOs, it can be quite usefull for charge if you runs her with W Ryoshu and Don, you're prob still better off to use her S2 if she on high charge poten/count but it help her a bit to secure her position as the second id.

>Ryoshu/Don. Ryoshu in front of Don is so that she can buff Don S3 with her S2, in event where you cant use Ryoshu S3 for whatever reason but can use Don S3, but both of them can swich position as Don can buff her as well, it doesnt really matter by much since both of them are slow and their dmg buff are on use effect.

>Outism main buff is on combat start so it will ignore slot order, while her charge barrier is on use effect but you only gain the charge count from barrier at turn end, so unless you plan to give her second slot, put her in back.

Put her in back so that Heathcliff>Faust>Ryoshu>Don can do Envy A Reson with their nukes, while Outis can safely buff them with her S3 but not breaking their A Reson.

>Ishmael is your filler id, shes good but she offers no support function (even Don and Ryoshu have support function) to the team. So you can Put her anywhere as long as she is not in the front, she can switch places with Outis.

I put her last to make it easier to swap her with someone else if I need too.

deployment order doesn't affect the position order. it's entirely based on speed

[Angela]

Originally posted by Zilloy:

deployment order doesn't affect the position order. it's entirely based on speed

Yes if they have diff in speed, if they happen to rolls the same speed then it up to deployment order.

[Sergalius]

MC HF. MC Faust. W don. W outis. W ryo. R isha? W Meur ?(tier 4) W Sang?( he is mostly rupture support)

[Reptiloid]

The more important question is, what charge ids and egos you have rn and how much you're willing to invest. A t4 ID is usually 250 boxes or so.

[A5G_Reaper]

Multicrack Faust is absurdly strong at the moment, especially if she gets multiple slots. W Don and Ryoshu are also up there, I feel like their overall damage output is slightly lower but they got much better defense skill. But overall they're an absolute unit on their own, having both high clash and high damage.

Next up I'd put R Ishmael, Multicrack Heathcliff, and W Outis.

R Ishmael is slightly behind the top picks, unless you're in MD and get to grab some extra skill 3 because her first two skills got terrible damage output. She's also very likely to lose a chunk of sanity whenever she dodges, a rather annoying downside of her passive. Multicrack Heathcliff are flat out better than many 000, he's like a slightly weaker version of Multicrack Faust. W Outis doesn't deal that much damage but she enables all the other charge units in your team, most notably the Multicrack duo really love having her around.

The six above makes a full team already, but you can substitute some with the following:

Next up you got W Yi Sang, R Heathcliff, and R/W Meursault. Decent on their own, but without any big contribution to the team. Yi Sang doesn't really improve that much with charges and doesn't deal any big damage (compared to the good charge IDs), he's closer to a rupture ID that uses some charge. But he clash well and got a dodge for defense, which is nice. R Heathcliff is a similar allrounder, he technically got charge gain but doesn't really use it all that much. His only synergy with a charge team is setting up a huge nuke turn with his skill 3, but outside of that he doesn't do much especially with chain battles allegedly being more common going forward. R Meursault is in similar boat as the previous two, he does clash pretty decently but is more of a bleed than charge ID. But if you do bring him it should be mostly for tanking duty. Finally W Meursault needs the regret EGO passive activated to be any good at all, and even then still lags behind the top IDs.

Then if you're desperate or just looking to complete the charge theme, these ones are available:

Finally, there's W Faust/Hong Lu and Rosespanner Rodion/Meursault. Faust would just be a +1 and Fluid Sac spammer, cant even clash for ♥♥♥♥. Hong Lu clash okay, but I'd rather have him benched for the support passive. Rosespanner duo are in the technically-got-charge category but they dont have anything that could assist the charge team, unlike the previously mentioned units. Better off let them be in the tremor team.

[Randomer_Lay]

Originally posted by Reptiloid:

The more important question is, what charge ids and egos you have rn and how much you're willing to invest. A t4 ID is usually 250 boxes or so.

hm hm
W ryoshu, W Don, W outis, MultiFaust, MultiHeath. They all on uptie 4
I am on way to do R ishmael u4.

I have only outis dshredd and Don electro sheep for charge (ig i need telepote don too)

[Taoist Ascendant]

Personally I really like W Corp Meursault at Uptie 4, especially with Regret EGO makes his numbers quite good and I appreciate the debuffs he can lay down.

[SmallGespenst]

I'll just list the team I ran through RR4.

Multicrack Faust (with telepole, not sac. she one-shot BL Salt so very much worth.)
Multicrack Heath (not bad, not amazing, easy substitution.)
W Don (it's a Charge team.)
W Ryoshu
W Outis (DS basically fixes her problems, could be substituted but she's worth using.)
R Ish (She's good. BO is good. evades are good and she has one.)

Some possible substitutions would include W-salt since he's decent and Regret is stupid. W Yi Sang isn't the worst Charge ID in the game. W hong Lu could be used, but is better for his Support.

[Taoist Ascendant]

Originally posted by SmallGespenst:

I'll just list the team I ran through RR4.

Multicrack Faust (with telepole, not sac. she one-shot BL Salt so very much worth.)
Multicrack Heath (not bad, not amazing, easy substitution.)
W Don (it's a Charge team.)
W Ryoshu
W Outis (DS basically fixes her problems, could be substituted but she's worth using.)
R Ish (She's good. BO is good. evades are good and she has one.)

Some possible substitutions would include W-salt since he's decent and Regret is stupid. W Yi Sang isn't the worst Charge ID in the game. W hong Lu could be used, but is better for his Support.

Personally I feel like Multicrack Heath is amazing, similar gimmick with Faust being able to roll really high, and the charge markers being able to give out a bunch of Charge for free is amazing.

[Angela]

Originally posted by Randomer_Lay:

hm hm
W ryoshu, W Don, W outis, MultiFaust, MultiHeath. They all on uptie 4
I am on way to do R ishmael u4.

I have only outis dshredd and Don electro sheep for charge (ig i need telepote don too)

You have Fluid Sac? if you already have it, consider to get Faust Telepole.

Fluid Sac better as general EGOs, but Faust Telepole is just free dmg boost in content like MD or MDH when they can have unlimited charge work
and Telepole dmg boost extent to EGOs, so any EGOs she will uses will get dmg buff after 1 usage of Telepole assume she has charge count.

It also quite usefull in RR4 but that more of Dmg resistant type, as in you spam Fluic Sac if you need heal and enemy weak to blunt, Telepole if they weak to pierce.